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On Fox News, the painful realization that white dudes are no longer the center of everything

Up all night. Too tired to scan the manosphere for weird reactions to Obama’s victory.

But here are some scenes from last night as a couple of backwards white dudes attempted to come to terms with the new demographic realities that enabled Obama to win the election despite getting a smaller percentage of the white vote than Michael Dukakis did in 1988.

Karl Rove, on Fox News, responded to the new realities with good old-fashioned denial, arguing with the number-crunchers for Fox after they called Ohio as a win for Obama. Rove must have thought he’d bought the election good and square!

Bill O’Reilly, meanwhile, responded with, well,  there’s really no other word for it than racism:

Also, while we’re talking demographics, here’s a nice pithy breakdown of the gender gap, from ABC news:

Women favored Obama by 11 points while men backed Romney by 7; the gender gap has been bigger just once, in 2000 (when men were +11 Bush and women were +11 Gore). Add in marital status and the gaps become garish: Married men for Romney by 60-38 percent; unmarried women (younger, more Democratic, more aligned with Obama on social and role-of-government issues) backed the incumbent by 67-31 percent.

Grouchy entitled white dudes, get used to it.

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Fitzy
Fitzy
8 years ago

Damn, how could I misspell your name like that, Freitag? I’ve even studied German. Grrrr…

clairedammit
clairedammit
8 years ago

On this Jezebel thread http://jezebel.com/5958966/my-ten-favorite-kinds-of-right+wing-temper-tantrums?post=54118843 someone commented that her father will no longer speak to her because she voted for Obama.

My father defriended me on Facebook and told me that he never wants to speak to me again because I voted for Obama. He also said I’m a “fucking idiot” and that I’m the reason why this country is going down the toilet. Just to be clear, this was not in response to any argument or conversation, it’s just a fun thing I woke up to the morning after the election. What the fuck is wrong with people? I didn’t even do anything wrong. I was so angry when Bush won twice but I never was rude and offensive to people who voted for him. I don’t understand why THIS election has been so terrible. My father wasn’t this crazy 4 years ago when I did the same thing.

(sorry, I don’t know how to link directly to the comment)

I wouldn’t believe that people would let politics come between them and family, except that I’ve seen it before. 🙁

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
8 years ago

After the ’04 election, I did mention moving to Canada in protest. But that was just my way of venting. I can’t handle the cold that far north.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

Oh there was a bit of wailing, gnashing of teeth and threats to leave. Then the liberals said FUCK THAT SHIT THIS IS MY COUNTRY AND I AM GOING TO STOP THEM. (It helped that Howard Dean was immediately elected party chair and he gave us Dems hope enough to pick up the pieces.)

But for a while there, the Canadians were nice enough to do this:

http://www.marryanamerican.ca/

freitag235
freitag235
8 years ago

@Fitzy, I wasn’t happy either, but I didn’t disown my family members or friends and cow-orkers who voted Bush. This guy is…

Shit. I don’t want to use ableist language, so I don’t know what to say about him except that he is overreacting is a big way. It’s one election, pally. One. There’s another one in two years where you can go vote for revenge. Or not, since that’s kind of an unhealthy thing. Before beginning a journey of vengeance, first dig two graves.

This fool is cutting off his nose to spite his face if he’s for real about his plans. Go on. Disown family and friends. Pitch a fit in front of BuyMart. Wear offensive buttons and rant in the grocery store. You will not change any minds. You will not make a difference. No-one will come around to your point of view because of your actions. The only thing you will do is convince those in your area of influence that you are unwell, vicious, petty and potentially dangerous. What a great victory you will have.

OTOH, some things you just can’t see too many times:

Life goes on, and ain’t it grand?

Fitzy
Fitzy
8 years ago

While we’re on the topic of off-the-fucking-wall behavior, one of my husband’s siblings was really het up about the Affordable Care Act; since the hubs and I were the only people zie knew who had voted for Obama in 2008, zie directed most of the discontent at us. When it finally passed, zie sent my husband a text message that went something like: “I hope you’re satisfied. And I hope you enjoy it while you’re dying on the street.”

He showed it to me, and I asked if zie was serious. He just said, “yeah, probably,” and laughed it off.

Maybe I’m a nancy girl, but I’m still shocked that someone’s sibling would hit them with that kind of hate.

Leeloo Dallas Multipass

“If I meet a Democrat in my life from here on out, I will shun them immediately. I will spit on the ground in front of them, being careful not to spit in their general direction so that they can’t charge me with some stupid little nuisance law. Then I’ll tell them in no un-certain terms: “I do not associate with Democrats. You all are communist pigs, and I have nothing but utter disgust for you. Sir/Madam, you are scum of the earth.” Then I’ll turn and walk the other way.”

I would have a hard time keeping a straight face if this actually happened. The faux politeness really puts it over the top.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Fitzy: I thought the whole point of the Affordable Care Act was so that people DON’T die in the street. Conservatives have so much trouble with facts.

Shaenon
8 years ago

That said, on Romney I think you’re dead wrong. He was the ideal candidate for Republicans. We couldn’t have done any better. Good looking, hot lookin’ wife. Well spoken. Fiscal not social conservative. Northeast ties, also from the Mid-west. It’s almost like he came out of central casting.

The next time an MRA (or really any flavor of right-wing douche) starts bloviating about how us silly women make decisions based on our silly emotions, not like Men who use Logic and Reason and Man Brains, I’m going to remember this special little boy.

Vote for Romney! He has nice hair and a hot wife! (If by “hot” this guy means “extremely white and impeccably blonde,” which he does.)

katz
8 years ago

Now I want to make an “extremely white and impeccably blonde” movie poster.

Fitzy
Fitzy
8 years ago

hellkell, from earlier conversations I could deduce that we would be dying due to the six months wait for a check-up and the ultimate denial of live-saving procedures by that rationing Death Panel. I guess we’d do said dying on the street because… well, we’d be lying on the curb outside of the doctor’s office?

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

Person dead from eeeeeeevil socialist medicine here. Well, I guess I’m a zombie. I get prescription brains! 😀

Y’know, because diabetic zombie. Gotta have sugar-free grey matter. 😛

Fitzy
Fitzy
8 years ago

So they killed you, and then brought you back to make you suffer even more. Ye gods, the U.K.’s social welfare system is even more dastardly than Fox News said!

freitag235
freitag235
8 years ago

Here is proof positive that this election will not doom America.

Take a lesson, America.

tl:dr, we can all get along.

Falconer
8 years ago

Yeah, the black guy got re-elected. Take a deep breath and say it out loud. See? The flesh did not melt off your face.

The black guy got — aargh!

O NO WAIT that was me opening the Ark. Sorry!

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

@Fitzy

Embalming fluid on prescription, free prescriptions because undeath is a Chronic condition, and free reattachment and replacement of body parts. The NHS is a zombie’s dream. I smell as fresh as a week-old daisy.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

I wouldn’t believe that people would let politics come between them and family, except that I’ve seen it before.

I’ve been having issues with my mother’s husband, but that’s less “I wont talk to you because you voted for Romney” and more “I don’t want to talk to you because you voted for Romney because he shares your hatred of women, gay people, brown people, and poor people, your inability to understand your affluent straight white dude privilege, and your willingness to intimidate and terrorize people into giving you what you want, all the while thinking that you deserve or worked to earn what you’ve bullied your way into getting”.

But really this election was just another event in a long line of not-good events. If my BFF confessed she voted for Romney I wouldn’t spontaneously disown her. That would be stupid.

freitag235
freitag235
8 years ago

@Falconer, snicker. That’s just what I was envisioning!

Falconer
8 years ago

I probably should have put a warning on that video. But who here hasn’t seen that bit? And anyway it embedded nice and everything, so people see what they’d get if they clicked on it.

katz
8 years ago

I think it’s much more common to have relatives you don’t talk to about politics, namely, everyone except my uncle.

Of course I have relatives I don’t talk to because they’re dipshits, but they’re actually liberals.

Falconer
8 years ago

@katz — Yeah, I’ve got relatives I don’t talk to about politics or religion. Other topics are just peachy.

clairedammit
clairedammit
8 years ago
Shiraz
Shiraz
8 years ago

I think I got into a fight on Facebook with the guy who posted this:

“You knew that Obama lied to cover up this culpable negligence, and then lied about lying. You had the video, CBS, which you could have aired immediately after the second debate, exposing him for the liar that he is.”

Remember when Mitt said Obama took too long to declare the attacks in Benghazi as acts of terror? Then Candy interjected and said that was incorrect? Well, this dude was on a rampage, days after, saying the networks cut and reworked the footage of Obama commenting in the Rose Garden about the Benghazi attacks (which were played after the debate to prove Mitt was wrong), claiming that he was in fact talking about 9/11. So, according to angry guy, Candy was covering up for Obama and he’s a liar, and blah blah blah.

Now remember, at the debate, both men were responding to a question from the audience. I asked this enraged guy why someone would ask about 9/11 during the current election, and he told me the networks were lying. Playing Devil’s Advocate, and assuming enraged guy was correct, I also asked why Obama’s comments reflected any type of negligence, since he was not president on Sept. 11, 2002 (and hello, why would anybody but the president be filmed making a public statement in the Rose Garden?). This guy couldn’t give me a straight, coherent answer.
I told him to take the tin-foil hat off, then he declared he was in the right, since I resorted to a petty insult. He was foaming at the mouth and irrational. I posted a response, wondering the whole time why my Facebook friend would be associated with such a person. While we were having it out, no one joined in or tried to break the fight up. Anyhoo, this was not a rational person.
If this person expressed the same sentiments in mixed company, he’d have a hard time not being ostracized. I wonder if these people live day-to-day constantly repressing their wack-a-doo notions. They do not represent a majority in any demographic, I think…..but god damned, they’re angry as fuck.

clairedammit
clairedammit
8 years ago

Shiraz, I’d love to see some screenshots if you have them.

I HAVE POPCORN AND JUNIOR MINTS AND M&MS.

Shiraz
Shiraz
8 years ago

I don’t have screenshots — I wasn’t thinking at the time. But this is what started the fight:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/candy-crowley-fact-checks-mitt-romney-libya_n_1972313.html

Shiraz
Shiraz
8 years ago

Am I in moderation? None of replies are posting. Sorry everyone.

clairedammit
clairedammit
8 years ago

This site was broken for me for awhile – the template wasn’t loading

IT IS FINE NOW HOWEVER

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

I think Glenn Beck goes to the same appearance-terribling salon that Donald Trump goes to.

I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT NOVEMBERS THAT MAKES WEALTHY CONSERVATIVE SHITLORDS GET SUNBURN AND WHITENED HAIR OR IS IT JUST ELECTIONS THAT DO THAT?

thenatfantastic
8 years ago

Most of my family is really cool about politics. Then I have one uncle who’s a member of a far-right, explicitly racist organisation. He disowned me when he was on a frothing tirade about ‘kicking the fuck out of commies’ (for supporting – i.e. not violently attacking – Muslims), and I politely pointed out that I’m an anarcha-communist.

But then again one of my cousins just announced she’s having Ice Ice Baby as her first dance at her wedding and now I like her more than I used to, so swings and roundabouts.

Fitzy
Fitzy
8 years ago

With a couple of exceptions, the regular trolls have been awfully quiet the past couple of days…

It’s been kind of nice.

Old Corvusd Corvus
8 years ago

I don’t know if this has been linked over here, but you might enjoy knowing how butthurt THESE people are: http://jezebel.com/5958490/twitter-racists-react-to-that-nigger-getting-reelected/gallery/1?tag=racism

Falconer
8 years ago

Here’s some lulz.

OMG did you know “Barry Soetero” went to Mars the old-fashioned, John Carter way back in the 80s and managed not to get eaten by the local fauna? It’s true, the people who claim it are time travellers and have been all over the universe, so you know they’re trustworthy.

Also, the White House denied it, so QED.

leftwingfox
8 years ago

I know I’m way too late to the “sandpaper my loins” party, but all I could think about was “Well, that’s a rather extreme way to deal with morning wood.”

Ok, gutter humor relieved.

Yikes, careful sampling wingnut tears… they seem to be made of LSD.

Falconer
8 years ago

@Corvus: Poor, poor Chris Rock. His joke (about n-words vs. black people) has been seized by hateful white people as justification for hate language. I know he’s spoken out about this, but the people who abuse his joke aren’t listening.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

“and BOOM now everybody wants to vote for him because hugs are positive like smiles.”

Why yes Lauren the Racist Twitted Tweeter, hugs ARE positive. That is why people like Chris Christie a wee bit more than they did two weeks ago (he is still probably an asshole but he is being a responsible asshole and people like that too.)

amandajane5
8 years ago

This is also pretty hilarious.

Falconer
8 years ago

Hey, remember when the Obama administration was going to hire a whole bunch of lefty bloggers, except they wouldn’t hire anybody who talked like their Chief of Staff? Good times. Good times.

Falconer
8 years ago

“At the moment you’re a terrible, cynical human being who gets rich off of other people’s ignorance. Your entire existence is defined by intellectual stupor and purposelessness. There’s not a single cell of your body that has any redeeming value whatsoever – not even the intestinal cells which host your parasites.”

Mr. Hannity might find this website useful.

blitzgal
8 years ago

For our trolls obsessed with Mary Kellett. Here is a prosecutor who tampered with evidence in a rape trial — to protect her husband, who was the accused serial rapist.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/09/prosecutor-wife-suspected-of-evidence-tampering-for-accused-rapist-husband/

cloudiah
8 years ago

I wish that Rahm Emanuel thing had actually happened.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

Oh goodness, those twitter wankers – “IAmNotRacist”. And then rants about how much they hate black people. Isn’t “hating people based on the colour of their skin or culture of origin” a pretty big part of the definition of racism? >.(

pecunium
8 years ago

So… spearheaer ranty dude lives in the south, but he’s all clued-in on the urban office workplace, right down to the politics.

And, when people have said shit like, the “I work for my shit” in my hearing I’ve told them off. They tend to want to leave in a hurry when I start, but they haven’t paid yet, so they are stuck.

And I smile at them while I do it.

deodorant
deodorant
8 years ago

Bill O’Reilly has always been a butthead. I am a little surprised he actually used the phrase “white establishment”, I’m thinking he probably got chewed out backstage afterward. Also, Todd Akin really got shit on later that night, it was hilarious.

Fucking Loser
Fucking Loser
8 years ago

If only we could get “white dudes” like David Futile to give up his blog to a person of color due to his white privilege.

Along with pecunium (and only white dudes on this site) will kill themselves.

Oh well they will become extinct eventually.

You can’t stop progress David.

P.S. You’re a white dude. Twit. A fat one at that.

Fucking Loser
Fucking Loser
8 years ago

David, a white male, who will go the way of the do do bird.

Hopefully by heart attack clogged by all lipids in his heart and arteries.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
8 years ago

Hello, Pell

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

“do do” bird? Yeah, that’s Pell.

thenatfantastic
8 years ago

Haha I literally just mentioned his aversion to subtlety on another thread. Bloody ninny.

amandajane5
8 years ago

It’s always so charming how he goes straight to calling David fat, because compelling argument. David is fat so…his brain doesn’t work? I’m not really sure what the reasoning is there.