Up all night. Too tired to scan the manosphere for weird reactions to Obama’s victory.
But here are some scenes from last night as a couple of backwards white dudes attempted to come to terms with the new demographic realities that enabled Obama to win the election despite getting a smaller percentage of the white vote than Michael Dukakis did in 1988.
Karl Rove, on Fox News, responded to the new realities with good old-fashioned denial, arguing with the number-crunchers for Fox after they called Ohio as a win for Obama. Rove must have thought he’d bought the election good and square!
Bill O’Reilly, meanwhile, responded with, well, there’s really no other word for it than racism:
Also, while we’re talking demographics, here’s a nice pithy breakdown of the gender gap, from ABC news:
Women favored Obama by 11 points while men backed Romney by 7; the gender gap has been bigger just once, in 2000 (when men were +11 Bush and women were +11 Gore). Add in marital status and the gaps become garish: Married men for Romney by 60-38 percent; unmarried women (younger, more Democratic, more aligned with Obama on social and role-of-government issues) backed the incumbent by 67-31 percent.
Grouchy entitled white dudes, get used to it.
Roscoe, when you give money to the poor to buy food, that money immediately goes into the economy. The US food stamp programs have unintentionally been propping up your economy over there.
Give money to subsidize housing and people are able to keep their jobs and pay their bills.
Give money to subsidize health care and people are quicker to get treated, quicker to get back to work and less likely to develope chronic, difficult toi treat and possibly life threatening illness or disabilities. Subsidizing something like insulin is a lot cheaper than care for a person who lost their eyesight to diabetes.
Cloudiah: Love it! So epic!
A rising tide sinks your battleship! And other moments in conservative dumbassery, by Roscoe P. Coltrane.
*rereads it and pats Roscoe condescendingly on the head.*
I get it that debt and stagflation are bad. But I’m telling you that there are practical solutions to fixing the economy. We can increase revenue by allowing the Bush tax cuts for the top income bracket to expire. The top 1% are getting a lot from our government and paying nothing back, and that’s going to have to stop unless we want a handful of people to have all the money while everyone else starves. That’s the kind of situation that really does threaten democracy, because it seems better to submit to authoritarianism (in any form) rather than starvation. That’s what Eisenhower was warning people about way back in the sixties when he described the threat of the military industrial complex.
As for spending, we can make big cuts in the military budget and still be safe. We can invest more money in education, social services, and healthcare to prevent crime, rather than putting millions of victimless drug offenders behind bars. Finally, we can end the war on drugs and make them a source of tax revenue. With these kinds of changes, we can make sure people are fed and also slowly start paying down the debt. We can do both at the same time if we can wrestle back some of the power from super PACs and billionaires.
Hahhahahhahha!
Having your entitlement pointed out = being condescended to! Of course, Roscoe, of course!
PZ Myers on JtO: Exterminate!
These motherfuckers love to waltz in and be like “We’re in debt. Y’all’s fault.” Without having a god damn idea about what WILL fix it
@thebionicmommy:
Those are all good changes. But I just want to point out… we would reach the goal of surpluses LONG BEFORE we finished doing all the stuff on your list.
Just dropping the war spending, before you cut military budgets at all, drops more than half the deficit right there.
And then another quarter on tax cuts for the rich.
3/4s of it, right there.
It’s actually painfully simple stuff. Reverse the obvious Republican stuff, and we’re most the way there.
BUT THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT’S A SOLUTION.
They still claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility.
If they really were, those would be the low-hanging fruit they’d go after. But they’re not. No more than ‘prolifers’ are really against abortion. If they were against abortion they’d have to vote for Obamacare as a matter of conscience–freely available contraceptives have been shown time and again to drive abortions rates WAAAAAY down. But they aren’t.
This is what really shows their hypocrisies. The party of ‘fiscal responsibility’ explodes the deficit, every time.
The ‘pro-life’ party votes for more abortions, not less.
Just for Roscoe, here’s an awesome bulldog.
whuh-oh, howard, I think you chased him away with all of your scary facts.
How do you survive in your daily life if your sole understanding of finance is “SPENDING = DEBT!”?
@katz
You panic?
You post inane comments that lack logic on forums devoted to mocking unrelated subjects?
It’s not necessarily the facts that scare them; being asked to account for raging hypocrisy? That’s scary.
He’s right now trying to remind himself that he’s FOR fiscal responsibility, and AGAINST abortion. Trying so very hard.
It won’t be difficult. Cognitive dissonance. I used to think I was totally heterosexual. I have vivid memories of watching a choir perform and noticing quite a few very pretty gentlemen, not paying much attention to the ladies in the choir at all, and still thinking I was totally hetero, not a queer bone in my body. It’s just that the guys were so very pretty.
You can ignore reality pretty hard if your world view requires it.
The idea that it’s fiscally responsible for a country to ban abortion has always amused me. Well, until I remember that the people who think that way are occasionally in charge of the nation’s finances.
The amount of people with mortgages out there is terrifying! Shouldn’t they all be renting?
Like you go out and buy a cup of coffee, and then you flip out like “THAT’S $2.50 I DON’T HAVE ANYMORE! NEXT, $10 TRILLION!”
I PAID $10 FOR A SET OF POLYHEDRAL DICE THIS WEEKEND! WHERE WILL IT END?! I WILL BE DROWNING IN EIGHT-SIDERS UNLESS I AM ALLOWED TO SQUARE ROOT THE KUMQUAT IN THE DOLPHIN TOWER!!
Ohio might have gone for Romney briefly last night after the election was called for Obama. NPR (http://elections2012.npr.org/bigboard/president.html) was reporting numbers like 48.4% for Obama and 49% for Romney for about 20 minutes after they, Fox News, and NBC had all made Ohio blue. But by that time, Obama had 272 electoral votes without Ohio or Florida so it didn’t really matter. Still, I expect to see a lot of conspiracy-theorizing about Ohio later among the right wing. It should be entertaining.
WE MIGHT BE IN DEBT, BUT I DON’T WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE MY NEIGHBOR’S CHILDREN GO HUNGRY OR ARE DENIED A GOOD EDUCATION. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH EVERYONE, STOCKPILE GUNS, AND LIVE IN GATED COMMUNITIES* WHILE OTHERS STARVE OR DIE BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE MEDICAL CARE ARE EVIL.
*Many of my peers and family think like this. They also think my middle-class neighborhood in the city is dangerous because it’s not majority white and isolated like theirs. I am happy to give my property taxes to a school district that gives all the kids a good education(not just the wealthy ones) and feeds kids a hot lunch all summer if they need it; they think my neighbor’s kids are all gangsters. I’m really starting to hate other affluent white people.
>Who “gets stuff” from the government other than the super rich?
The difference being that the super-rich deserve it. They’re making all the money trickle down after all, providing for much better social security than the State ever could.
At least I think that’s what they believe.
Falconer, you could at least have put a NSFW label on that post. 😀
@Cloudiah: Great, I’m having a paranoid moment and wondering if there was anything actually NSFW in what I wrote.
Well, it just sounds… you know… What did you mean by kumquat?
(I’m totally kidding, you’re fine.)
Sorry, I just … the downside to all this wonderful social interaction is I don’t get to see peoples’ faces and hear their voices, so I sometimes can’t tell when someone’s being silly at me.
This is totally not your fault.
It’s lead me to worry several times if I’ve said something bad. Usually most people will say outright, hey, you’re being an asshole, but even knowing that doesn’t help me 🙁