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Manosphere Civil War: AVFM fires back at the MGTOW rebels. Also, kitty pics.

Dude against dude. Not sure why the dogs are floating in midair.

Manosphere drama is always a bit surreal. You may recall my post the other day about the feud developing between two sites that are regular sources of material for us here at Man Boobz: MGTOWforums and A Voice for Men. As you may recall, the folks at MGTOWforums were working themselves into a lather because AVFM was committing the cardinal sin of allowing women – sorry, “cunts” – to post articles and comments. The horror!

Now AVFM has fired back. In a thread on AVFM’s relatively new forum, head cheese Paul Elam lashes out at the “MGTOW Forum Fuckwits,” declaring them a bunch of shit-stirring “piss ants” and announcing his plans to turn the AVFM forum into MGTOW central.

I see an opportunity here, This forum is very user friendly to MGTOW’s. MGTOW Forums is the largest one of its kind, but it is run by children. I will happily siphon off as many of the men they ban and shame for not measuring up to their cliquish little band of alpha wannabe’s as I can.

God knows [MGTOWforums admin] Nacho and his bootlickers run them off as quick as they come in.

AVfM is already a more traveled site than their forum, and as time passes the MGTOW presence here will eclipse their little circle jerk.

Speaking of circle jerks, here’s Paul, in an unrelated thread on his forum, banning a dude for having the temerity to suggest that “Reddit, not avoiceformen.com, is the most important online resource for Men’s Rights Activism.”

BANNED! Nothing must challenge the supremacy of PAUL ELAM!

Naturally, I found out about this by reading about it on MGTOWforums, where A Voice for Men is now being dismissed as — I kid you not — “A Vagina For Manginas.”

Still, the strangest development in this civil war is this: some MGTOWers who’ve been banned from AVFM’s forum have set up an alternative forum of their own, which they’ve rather confusingly named “AVFMforums.” Yes, that’s right, it’s a battle between the AVFM forums and … AVFMforums. How can you tell them apart? Well, when the latter group uses the acronym AVFM they mean “Alternate Voice for Men” rather than the original “A Voice for Men.” Also, the dudes at AVFMforums think that AVFM’s Elam is “a lying hippocrite [sic] with no credibility.”

If this is all a bit confusing, perhaps this brief video clip will help elucidate some of the issues here:

Also, for no particular reason, here are two new pictures of Sweetie Pie Jonus, one of my kittens:

Actually, the combatants in this latest mansophere civil war could learn a thing or two from my kittens. They fight, but always seem to end up licking each other’s heads. The kittens, that is. I’d love to see Paul Elam and his critics doing the same.

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chibigodzilla
12 years ago

Would that make this the Battle of “Man Tedium”? *rimshot*

Falconer
12 years ago

Hey, do I smell popcorn?

Falconer
12 years ago

@chibigodzilla: Antietam?

chibigodzilla
12 years ago

@Falconer: Yeah, it was pun of sorts, they’re men, they’re tedious. “Man Tedium” sounds similar to Antietam.

Falconer
12 years ago

@chibigodzilla: I figured that’s what you meant, I just wasn’t certain, probably because I can be unbelievably dense, especially if I’ve checked out for five minutes.

cloudiah
12 years ago

I’ve never had any idea how to pronounce Antietam. 😀

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I wanna know if one of these clowns has shares in a popcorn company. Their stocks will be soaring. I smell a conspiracy. (And popcorn.)

Mr Sweetie Pie Jonus is gettng so big! He doesn’t look like a kitten, he looks all grown up. ::melts into puddle of awwwwwwwwwwww::

Falconer
12 years ago

@cloudiah: oh my god David really is a big ol’ bete noir for some of these guys, isn’t he?

Also, if that is Schticky, he may want to consider seeking professional help. I’m not sure that kind of obsession is healthy.

He brings to mind a case I worked on in which the father was suing the mother for full custody. The father kept asserting that the mother was bad for the children, but in deposition, he couldn’t remember why she was bad. He kept saying “I can’t remember,” or “I don’t know.” No lie!

the only problem I have is in explaining WHY Schticky brings this case to my mind. Probably it has to do with how certain he is that David is awful, and how citation-free his J’accuse! moments are

Falconer
12 years ago

@Cloudiah: I think it’s pronounced an-tee-sham, although why a straight-up T with no I after it gets the SH treatment I have not the first clue.

I think the actual T with the actual I after it in the word gets a hard T pronunciation is because there’s an N in front of it.

Falconer
12 years ago

OK Jimmy Wales’s Magnificent Octopus says both Ts are hard. I don’t know where I got the SH from, then.

cloudiah
12 years ago

I mispronounce everything — it’s my superpower. Also, I demand equal time for Pantz! Where’s Pantz?!??!?!

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
12 years ago

Schticky with his predator bell curve is priceless!

chibigodzilla
12 years ago

Well, ovee here they have a recording of someone saying Antietam. Which is how I’ve always heard it pronounced.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
12 years ago

You can listen to it here, but it does depend to a certain degree, on where you live whether the accent is on the first or second syllable. http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?gganti03.wav=Antietam+Creek

leftwingfox
12 years ago

Cloudiah: Holy shit… that thread. No wonder Al left FTB; you just don’t get that sort of worship there.

Now, I wonder just how fast that would change if he calls bullshit on any of the commenters.

whataboutthemoonz
12 years ago

All the good hippocrite graphics are fat-shaming, except for the one about republicans.

I love your kitties 🙂

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

I’m picturing Kent Brockman here: “There’s been a battle in Ateenum…Atiente… Anthum… Gettysburg!

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Sir Bodsworth – but is it hard G or soft G? That’s one I never know! 😀

David – sorry, I thought from “Jonus” she was a he! She is getting big. That’s only about three pounds off general adult kitty weight, isn’t it? (Assuming 11 pounds/5 kilos is seen as average.)

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
12 years ago

I have an adult kitty who is only seven pounds (and another who is fourteen pounds and scared of the seven-pound cat–seriously, all she has to do is stare at him and he runs away). So Sweetie Pie might be fully grown already.

driversuz
driversuz
12 years ago

Awesome comment thread.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

I can’t stop thinking about about ‘Ken Burns Manosphere Civil War’

It would involve slow pans across black and white photos of the empty venues where cancelled MRA events were once planned, while Sam Waterson, Garrison Keilor and Morgan Freeman read Manosphere posts in deep, sombre voices.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
12 years ago

Unpaid Help, both ‘g’s in Gettysburg are hard, as in go.

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