Most manosphere misogynists lean to the right. But every once in a while I’ll run across an MRA who considers himself a man of the left. Today, while perusing the Spearhead, which generally appeals to some of the more reactionary MRAs and MGTOWers, I ran across a most intriguing example of the Manosphericus lefticus.
“Davani” describes himself as “a socialist and a supporter of women’s rights,” explaining that
the last thing I want is some kind of uneducated, barefoot-and-in-the-kitchen woman who I can’t even have a conversation with on any intelligent topic.
But Mr. D is a most unusual sort of socialist-feminist indeed. You might call him a Socialist of the Penis. Or, rather, a Socialist for the Penis. As he explains,
I am all for egalitarian culture (e.g., expanding women’s rights), but only if the women themselves are egalitarian. In the US, much more so than anywhere else, they are not.
So what exactly is wrong with these American women, in Davani’s mind? Well, he reports sadly,
The women here are very shallow, and use their rights to penalize, rather than include, the majority of “average” men who don’t make the cut in terms of their looks. Susan Walsh, the author of “Hooking Up Smart,” reports that on US college campuses, 80% of the girls have sex with 20% of the guys.
Oh dear, not this again.
In effect, giving American women contraception enables them to jump on the sex carousel but not with most guys — only with a small number of ‘alpha males’ at the top. This is the problem right here. Moreover, this is at no cost to themselves, because they can abort any pregnancy, while discriminating against the “lesser” males.
Davani is outraged by this blatant elitism on the part of women. He would prefer a far more egalitarian form of pussy distribution – from each, according to her pussy; to each, according to his penis’ needs.
[I]n other countries, women wouldn’t use contraception to essentially eliminate 80% of the guys. Family planning would benefit BOTH the guy and the girl. The girl isn’t looking to hook up with the top athlete or celebrity, she’s also very interested in other, regular guys, who have other good qualities, even if they don’t necessarily pass the “looks” test.
But in America, alas, women have become monopoly capitalists of the vagina.
American women are more shallow and discriminatory in their preferences than most other women, and this has to be taken into account. “Feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free” — in a normal society, yes; in this country, only the 20% at the top would be getting laid for free in this context.
So, false advertising, as well.
To the barricades, men! Vive la penislution!
@ANON:
IT IS MISANDRY!
Yep, because men only ever think about sex, and sex is man’s only goal. All other things pale in comparison to the importance of penis-pleasing. There are literally no other worthwhile pursuits in life other than getting laid, and if the getting-laid need is either satiated or will never be so, there is nothing left to do but get older.
Are you listening to yourself right now?
Salsa dancers – the ultimate alpha males.
(PUAs are hilarious.)
@kirbywarp 🙂 I know right, is just too awful to comprehend. And I think thats the worst part, this guys are the exaggerated comical version of a lot of things that are wrong, yet wide spread in our society
@ANON thats just gross. What’s the solution then? Should women sex with someone they don’t want to, to make sure they stay in school? It feel wrong just typing that
“Why am I supposed to care if (this theory is incredibly dumb, but let’s pretend) some guys decide to “drop out”?”
Famous last words.
Ask me again when every city in the USA looks like Detroit.
Keep bitching, snarking, deriding, who cares anyway. I doubt you’ll ever run out of rationalizations. You’ll probably blame the evil republicans or something.
Well, let’s see here. I can get laid with a minor amount of effort, and also I want a PhD. So I’m going to say… yes?
Also, it’s serious misandry to argue that men have to be lead along with pussy like a dog with meat.
I love this. Attention women! Have exactly enough sex with men (not too much and not too little) so that man will be productive and continue contributing to society in an effort to get in your pants! It is your most sacred charge here upon this earth, cause what else are you going to do?
(Is there a word for a thing that is sexist against everybody?)
I just love the idea that the only reason men currently get advanced academic degrees is because they’re bad salsa dancers.
ha, yes, this is why neither attractive men nor unattractive men have ever accomplished anything- they were all too busy drowning in pussy on the one hand, or committing suicide over the lack of pussy on the other hand, to accomplish anything else along the way.
Clearly the only problem with Detroit is an improper distribution of pussy. If everyone could be convinced to give people pussy the way Anon likes, then all the problems of systematic poverty and racism would go away.
This whole provide just enough sex but not too much thing is sounding like a lot of hard work. Also like it would involve math, which as we all know women are terrible at.
I think I’m just going to stick to having sex when and with whom I want.
He’s saying society will collapse when all men drop out from lack of ‘pussy’. Overestimation of the worth of adorable domesticated felines aside, there are these beings called women, we are capable of work, there would have to be some reshuffling but yes, society would continue…
1. And here was me thinking I used contraceptives to exclude 99.7% of potential pregnancies from my uterus and therefore actually get to have sex at all.
2. I live in another country and ladies here choose their own sexual partners too OMG the humanity!
3. @Anon, educated men are hot. Your opinion != everyone’s. Duh.
Yeah pussy is the ultimate solution! It will cure cancer, extinguish poverty put an end on violence ect… If only women would understand
maybe universities and businesses should only employ women to sleep with students and employees when they finish their homework / meet their deadlines? is this what ANON’s suggesting?
ANON thinks Ayn Rand wasn’t just a writer of bad fiction. That’s funnier than his claims to massive sexytime.
I think they have something like this in mind. Sadly they don’t seem to be aware that what they’re proposing is a classic dystopia.
http://www.pulpless.com/rainrev.html
I don’t mean to sound like captain obvious ruby, but this “pussy as commodity” kind of mentality is so ingrained, that consciously or not, it is seen as “withholding” when a woman decides to not have sex. No one would ever say this about a man who says no to sex, ever.
So Tesla was unproductive because he was celibate? And the main contributors to society’s advancement are clearly those religious guys with lots of wives.
LOL.
Wait, if men only ever contribute to socity to try to get laid, and women choose who gets laid and who doesn’t…
Doesn’t that mean that women are responsible for civilization as we know it? Aren’t they, therefore, the most valuable contributors to society?
In other news, in a little bit I need to not go to rehearsal where I will not be singing with a non-choir and not having tons of fun. I will then not be coming back where I will continue to not program a personal project I’ve been hoping to do. Later in the week, I will not be making bread. I will not be doing any of these things because they won’t result in havings sex with someone.
But kirby, doesn’t knowing that none of those things will result in you getting laid plunge you into a pit of despair in which the only logical next step is to drop out of society, which apparently means moving to Detroit?
No? I guess you must actually be a woman, then.
@CassandraSays:
Does that mean I get to control whether society thrives or crumbles with my genitals?
… Excellent. >: ) *steeples fingers*
Quick diversion back to the OP…
“Women only deserve rights if they exercise those rights the correct way.” This is depressing on so many levels… because it’s a common sentiment amongst people who are against women’s rights and because of course men are never held to the same standard. And yet obviously men are the disenfranchised. *sigh*
good christ, and the answer he’s advocating is that women not have access to birth control? because even if that were a just idea (and it’s not), lots of unwanted children will punish only those women he disapproves of and not have any negative repercussions on the rest of society, yeah?
Scene: High school counselor’s office, unidentified U.S. suburb, 2012. The counselor, Paul ANON, is wearing a tweed jacket and chewing absent-mindedly on the stem of an unlit pipe. The student, Mikhael Steelepole, slouches in his chair.
ANON: So, your test scores are pretty decent. Too bad you’re not better looking! What are your plans after high school?
Mikhael: [shrugs]
ANON: You have to consider your options, you know. How do you plan to acquire pussy?
Mikhael: Well, I really like reading about economics, and I thought I might eventually try to get a doctorate, work really hard, publish lots of articles, become tenured faculty. I hear some ladies really dig guys who’ve been through the peer review process.
ANON: I hate to break it to you, but that just isn’t the way the world works. [Gets up, and closes the office door.] I’m going to drop some wisdom on you; I just hope you’re ready to handle it.
Mikhael: Try me!
ANON: You’ve been brainwashed. You think straight women like men who share their interests? Men who contribute to society, and try to make it a better place? Men who do something they love, whether or not it pays well? Men who like women, and treat them as individuals? Ha!
Mikhael: [silently weeps]
ANON: I’m just telling you like it is! Economics, that’s your answer? ECO-FUCKING-NOMICS?!!?!? The only way economics can help you is if you write about the pussy redistribution policy, and get that published in your “peer-reviewed journal.” No, Mikey, that’s not going to accomplish anything.
Mikhael: Please, please tell me what to do — I’ll do anything!
ANON: You’re not good looking, which is too bad, but there is one thing that will get you all the pussy you can handle. The best part about it is that you won’t even need to work!
Mikhael: What is it? WHAT IS IT?
ANON: Two words: salsa dancing.
Mikhael: Salsa dancing?
ANON: That’s right. And the best part?
Mikhael: What?
ANON: You don’t need to be a productive member of society, or even care about society or anyone else.
Mikhael: SWEET!
Also, why would not having birth control make women want to fuck men who they don’t want to fuck now? If I was worried about getting pregnant I’d be less interested in sex, especially with men who I wasn’t attracted to anyway.