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American women: Monopoly capitalists of the vagina?

Men are tired of masturbating with the dead hand of capital!

Most manosphere misogynists lean to the right. But every once in a while I’ll run across an MRA who considers himself a man of the left. Today, while perusing the Spearhead, which generally appeals to some of the more reactionary MRAs and MGTOWers, I ran across a most intriguing example of the Manosphericus lefticus.

“Davani” describes himself as “a socialist and a supporter of women’s rights,” explaining that

the last thing I want is some kind of uneducated, barefoot-and-in-the-kitchen woman who I can’t even have a conversation with on any intelligent topic.

But Mr. D is a most unusual sort of socialist-feminist indeed. You might call him a Socialist of the Penis. Or, rather, a Socialist for the Penis. As he explains,

I am all for egalitarian culture (e.g., expanding women’s rights), but only if the women themselves are egalitarian. In the US, much more so than anywhere else, they are not.

So what exactly is wrong with these American women, in Davani’s mind? Well, he reports sadly,

The women here are very shallow, and use their rights to penalize, rather than include, the majority of “average” men who don’t make the cut in terms of their looks. Susan Walsh, the author of “Hooking Up Smart,” reports that on US college campuses, 80% of the girls have sex with 20% of the guys.

Oh dear, not this again.

In effect, giving American women contraception enables them to jump on the sex carousel but not with most guys — only with a small number of ‘alpha males’ at the top. This is the problem right here. Moreover, this is at no cost to themselves, because they can abort any pregnancy, while discriminating against the “lesser” males.

Davani is outraged by this blatant elitism on the part of women. He would prefer a far more egalitarian form of pussy distribution – from each, according to her pussy; to each, according to his penis’ needs.

[I]n other countries, women wouldn’t use contraception to essentially eliminate 80% of the guys. Family planning would benefit BOTH the guy and the girl. The girl isn’t looking to hook up with the top athlete or celebrity, she’s also very interested in other, regular guys, who have other good qualities, even if they don’t necessarily pass the “looks” test.

But in America, alas, women have become monopoly capitalists of the vagina.

American women are more shallow and discriminatory in their preferences than most other women, and this has to be taken into account. “Feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free” — in a normal society, yes; in this country, only the 20% at the top would be getting laid for free in this context.

So, false advertising, as well.

To the barricades, men! Vive la penislution!

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aussiesmurf
12 years ago

Did I miss something? The quote about ‘80% of the women sleeping with 20% of the guys’ is treated as definitive proof of something…but I’m not quite sure what. Are the MRAs saying that women should sleep with men they are not attracted to because…..what? they are being unfair otherwise?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@Crys:

thatsthepoint.txt

inurashii
inurashii
12 years ago

@ANON

Wow.

A probably-not-true boner report for no reason, a completely unrelated screed about pussy redistribution (not even a euphemism!), an unsubstantiated statement about male supremacy, talking about men ‘dropping out’ of the dating pool as though it’s a problem, and then the “You just don’t get it (whatever ‘it’ is)” cherry on top.

That’s just cheating at bingo.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

The hypergamy debate isn’t something that much interests me;

Of course it doesn’t. That’s why you brought it up, right?

Certainly; I think he’s right on for the younger folks; female hypergamy is rampant in high schools and college campuses.

Going to provide any examples of how much narrower the standards for attractiveness are for men than women? Any at all?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

The 80/20 think is even funnier when you take Steele’s belief that it sorts itself out when people hit their 20s into account. OMG, there’s a period of a few years when (supposedly) some men are getting laid a lot more than others! Clearly this is a tragedy of epic proportions.

inurashii
inurashii
12 years ago

@aussiesmurf, that is exactly what ANON is saying. Not sure what Steele is saying, except that he wants everybody to hear about his wild, baseless extrapolations.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

So here’s what I don’t get about Anon’s rant. If you believe that women are totes hypergamous and only want to fuck a tiny percentage of men anyway, why would those women care if many of the guys they don’t want to fuck decided to withdraw from the dating market?

inurashii
inurashii
12 years ago

Warp, you know, I don’t wish to engage you any longer. You can be wrong by yourself.

He’s taking his ball and going home, folks~!

except probably not

Crys
Crys
12 years ago

@kirbywarp lol, I guess I should have said something more productive but this line of thought is just so wrong to me. I don’t understand how can someone think like that

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

He keeps promising to take his ball and go home, but I guess it must be one of those ball-tethered-to-a-pole kind of deals, which is why he never actually leaves.

Graham
Graham
12 years ago

lol @ANON

dirtyhippiefeet
dirtyhippiefeet
12 years ago

“However there are still more possibilities for a woman, than for men.”

Okay I’m so, so curious. I’ve studied Jean Kilbourne and the like’s work for years and I’m very familiar (professionally and personally) with how Western media and culture affects women and their understanding of their own aesthetic value. but I’ve never once come across the idea that men have a narrower standard to fit into w/ regards to physical attractiveness. could you give examples? like, say, list 6 women you would say are “10s”, and 6 men as well? I’m curious about the narrow standard. thanks!

Graham
Graham
12 years ago

Damn, this thread moves fast.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

but the fact of the matter is that a pussy redistribution policy is no less important for the healthy functioning of a society than a money redistribution policy.

I can’t resist! What is a “pussy redistribution policy” and how would it work? Would it work like taxes? Arranged marriages? The system of sexual slavery imagined in The Hand Maid’s Tale but on a larger and more egalitarian (for the men, at any rate) scale?

Don’t get me wrong, I think the 80/20 thing is total bullshit. But if it were true and the government had to step in to prevent men from “dropping out” what would be the mechanics/logistics/procedure/protocol?

trix
trix
12 years ago

Yeah ANON, I don’t know why you bothered either, other than intentionally trying to irritate people. There’s nothing wrong with fucking lots of people. But when you write that your sex partners “thought at one point that we are exclusive,” that sir makes you a piece of shit. A lying piece of shit.

Oh and, I don’t believe you fucked that many women. Nobody puts their stats out in the open for bragging rights unless it’s a lie.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@Crys:

Nah, I wasn’t trying to be dismissive. That is actually what these guys think. It’s not obvious only because it’s such a childish idea, feeling entitled to an act that involves another human being, but there it is. And it’s so pervasive in our culture as well that it’s nearly invisible. Took me a while to grok it too. 🙂

@Cassandra:

Steele takes his ball and goes home in a huff, only to come back and hour later as though nothing happened. Over and over again.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

So here’s what I don’t get about Anon’s rant. If you believe that women are totes hypergamous and only want to fuck a tiny percentage of men anyway, why would those women care if many of the guys they don’t want to fuck decided to withdraw from the dating market?</blockquote?

Cassandra, these men aren't just going to withdraw from the dating market! They're going to drop out of everything! Men who can’t get laid are going to quit their jobs, abandon their homes, and leave their vehicles to rust by the side of the roads! They’re all going to live completely off the grid, stop paying taxes, and cripple society with their absence.

Or something.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Blockquotes!!!!! *shakes fist*

WeeBoy
12 years ago

Dear Anon, you have found me out, I have never had sex with a female!! Oh, how I have failed as a man, I will go and woefully contemplate my abject betaness, while I cry on my boyfriends shoulder…

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@Nobinayamu:

As O’Reilly famously didn’t say: “If I don’t get laid by somebody in the next 36 hours, I don’t know how much longer I’ll be doing the factor. What’s the point of success if you don’t get to bang hot chicks?”

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I am… fairly certain that success has perks BEYOND getting laid. Like, I could get laid even if I flunked out of school and quit the blog, and yet I’m still trying to do both. Bizarre.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@Nobinayamu

So not fucking any man who asks will turn him into the Unabomber? OMG, what have I done?

ANON
ANON
12 years ago

“If you believe that women are totes hypergamous and only want to fuck a tiny percentage of men anyway, why would those women care if many of the guys they don’t want to fuck decided to withdraw from the dating market?”

They don’t just withdraw from the dating market, they stop caring about society as a whole. Do you honestly think that guys who’ve completely lost hope in the dating market are going above-and-beyond the call of duty, as opposed to simply doing the bare minimum to scrape by? Conversely, do you honestly think the kind of guy who can get laid practically at will because he happens to be a good salsa dancer or what have you is the kind of guy who will pursue a graduate degree? Are you seriously unable to see what happens when men writ large adopt this way of thinking?

KEEP DREAMING MANBOOBZ

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Why am I supposed to care if (this theory is incredibly dumb, but let’s pretend) some guys decide to “drop out”? It’s their life, they can be slackers if they want to.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Oh ANON, just boogie (or salsa) your way out the door, dearie.