Most manosphere misogynists lean to the right. But every once in a while I’ll run across an MRA who considers himself a man of the left. Today, while perusing the Spearhead, which generally appeals to some of the more reactionary MRAs and MGTOWers, I ran across a most intriguing example of the Manosphericus lefticus.
“Davani” describes himself as “a socialist and a supporter of women’s rights,” explaining that
the last thing I want is some kind of uneducated, barefoot-and-in-the-kitchen woman who I can’t even have a conversation with on any intelligent topic.
But Mr. D is a most unusual sort of socialist-feminist indeed. You might call him a Socialist of the Penis. Or, rather, a Socialist for the Penis. As he explains,
I am all for egalitarian culture (e.g., expanding women’s rights), but only if the women themselves are egalitarian. In the US, much more so than anywhere else, they are not.
So what exactly is wrong with these American women, in Davani’s mind? Well, he reports sadly,
The women here are very shallow, and use their rights to penalize, rather than include, the majority of “average” men who don’t make the cut in terms of their looks. Susan Walsh, the author of “Hooking Up Smart,” reports that on US college campuses, 80% of the girls have sex with 20% of the guys.
Oh dear, not this again.
In effect, giving American women contraception enables them to jump on the sex carousel but not with most guys — only with a small number of ‘alpha males’ at the top. This is the problem right here. Moreover, this is at no cost to themselves, because they can abort any pregnancy, while discriminating against the “lesser” males.
Davani is outraged by this blatant elitism on the part of women. He would prefer a far more egalitarian form of pussy distribution – from each, according to her pussy; to each, according to his penis’ needs.
[I]n other countries, women wouldn’t use contraception to essentially eliminate 80% of the guys. Family planning would benefit BOTH the guy and the girl. The girl isn’t looking to hook up with the top athlete or celebrity, she’s also very interested in other, regular guys, who have other good qualities, even if they don’t necessarily pass the “looks” test.
But in America, alas, women have become monopoly capitalists of the vagina.
American women are more shallow and discriminatory in their preferences than most other women, and this has to be taken into account. “Feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free” — in a normal society, yes; in this country, only the 20% at the top would be getting laid for free in this context.
So, false advertising, as well.
To the barricades, men! Vive la penislution!
“If you’re going to try to willfully misinterpret the shit that you’re using to argue, at least put some effort into it.If you’re going to try to willfully misinterpret the shit that you’re using to argue, at least put some effort into it.”
I cannot completely take credit for this misinterpretation. It was pointed out to me by inurashii, that was why it was done sloppily.
That may be one reason, but it seems to me that the vast majority of folks did noyt receive comprehensive sex and relationship education and yet HAVE STILL FIGURED OUT, more or less, how to approach people and when its appropriate to do so.
I think it comes down to impatience. For those who want sex right now and are impateint and lacking in respect for others, meeting a person a few times to get to know them is an unendurable task.
Or maybe its just the fundemental lack of respect for others…
I think it has to do with the guys who do it not seeing women as people with lives of their own. If you think of a woman as a sort of ambulatory orgasm dispensing machine, it wouldn’t even occur to you to think that she might be in the middle of something, not looking for a sexual partner at the moment, etc. You’d just be annoyed that the orgasm vending machine wasn’t performing in the way that you expected it to.
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this whole discussion is because you replied to the ORIGINAL comment.
Did you not read the original comment when you replied to it?
Besides,if people are interested in some kind of LTR, do most people expect that be sexless except asexuals. So in some way most messages on dating could be seen as an indication of some kind of sexual interest.
¬_¬
I’m going home.
” A woman in public is going about her life, one which doesn’t involve any concern for you, or your sexual fantasy because right up to the moment you walked up to solicit her attention YOU DIDN’T EXIST!”
This is completely obvious to anyone. I don’t think anyone will object to this.
Talacris, even asexuals don’t expect a sexless relationship unless we’ve stated upfront that we want a romantic/caring relationship without the sex. Its so encoded in our culture that their must be sex to be a real relationship that many asexuals choose to avoid dating altogether, even if all other aspects of a romantic relationship appeals to them.
Then it should be equaly obvious that your momentary arousal is your problem to deal with and that its childish to dump your issue into the lap of a complete stranger and pester them to deal with it.
Talacaris. You’re quoting me. My comments are entirely about being approached, as in hit on, by strangers. Stop pretending you don’t know that’s what I’m talking about, and stop pretending I don’t know the difference between “person asking directions” and “creep imposing himself on me” or that your notions trump my experiences.
Here’s a rolled up piece of sandpaper. Insert it up your arse and twist.
Duality, good luck!
Oh, yay, dancing goalposts. Just because it’s assumed in almost any contact via dating sites that sex will eventually happen if things work out that doesn’t mean that it’s reasonable or polite for the initial approach to be of the “wanna fuck” variety, or that that’s at all the same thing as an assumption that sex will eventually be on the menu.
Troll smarter, dumbass.
Oh, BTW, I opened a HB8 at the vet this afternoon.
Oh, wait, what I meant was I talked briefly to a woman in the waiting room about her cat, then went and paid the bill for my cat.
The other place to ask a person to have sex with by just walking up to them is at a sex club and this makes my second reference in two days.
*ponders this*
But did you neg her about her pussy?
[/terrible person]
Also, hope your kitties are all right. 🙂
Wait, you mean the train isn’t a sex club? But the orgasm dispensing machines are there and everything!
Dualityheart, very best wishes for you and the baby! 🙂
Damn, I hope the myki machines are never set up for that. They’re so slow you’d have given up and wandered off for a coffee by the time they dispensed one.
Generally no they are not sex clubs. I mean I guess one could reserve an entire car and arrange for an orgy after the cops bust yet another party at your house.
There are streetcars you can do that with in San Francisco, rent them and go around in them with a bunch of drunk, shouty friends. It may be the most annoying thing the local tourism-related industry has ever come up with.
I now have an image of the Tramcar Restaurant being hired for this, although I suspect the waiters wouldn’t be too impressed.
Ninja’d by CassandraSays for reals! :O
Owwwwwwwww!!! *memo to self: Never piss off an Aussie!*
Well here, have a website of awesome bath products to take your mind off of it Freitag:
http://www.blissfulbath.com/collections/christmas-preview.html
And now, to reserve a tramcar…
heheheheh