Most manosphere misogynists lean to the right. But every once in a while I’ll run across an MRA who considers himself a man of the left. Today, while perusing the Spearhead, which generally appeals to some of the more reactionary MRAs and MGTOWers, I ran across a most intriguing example of the Manosphericus lefticus.
“Davani” describes himself as “a socialist and a supporter of women’s rights,” explaining that
the last thing I want is some kind of uneducated, barefoot-and-in-the-kitchen woman who I can’t even have a conversation with on any intelligent topic.
But Mr. D is a most unusual sort of socialist-feminist indeed. You might call him a Socialist of the Penis. Or, rather, a Socialist for the Penis. As he explains,
I am all for egalitarian culture (e.g., expanding women’s rights), but only if the women themselves are egalitarian. In the US, much more so than anywhere else, they are not.
So what exactly is wrong with these American women, in Davani’s mind? Well, he reports sadly,
The women here are very shallow, and use their rights to penalize, rather than include, the majority of “average” men who don’t make the cut in terms of their looks. Susan Walsh, the author of “Hooking Up Smart,” reports that on US college campuses, 80% of the girls have sex with 20% of the guys.
Oh dear, not this again.
In effect, giving American women contraception enables them to jump on the sex carousel but not with most guys — only with a small number of ‘alpha males’ at the top. This is the problem right here. Moreover, this is at no cost to themselves, because they can abort any pregnancy, while discriminating against the “lesser” males.
Davani is outraged by this blatant elitism on the part of women. He would prefer a far more egalitarian form of pussy distribution – from each, according to her pussy; to each, according to his penis’ needs.
[I]n other countries, women wouldn’t use contraception to essentially eliminate 80% of the guys. Family planning would benefit BOTH the guy and the girl. The girl isn’t looking to hook up with the top athlete or celebrity, she’s also very interested in other, regular guys, who have other good qualities, even if they don’t necessarily pass the “looks” test.
But in America, alas, women have become monopoly capitalists of the vagina.
American women are more shallow and discriminatory in their preferences than most other women, and this has to be taken into account. “Feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free” — in a normal society, yes; in this country, only the 20% at the top would be getting laid for free in this context.
So, false advertising, as well.
To the barricades, men! Vive la penislution!
Hey, Freitag – when I read your post it was all bold, then after I hit Send on mine, it turned into bold/plain!
::bows down before the power of HTML Cat::
Oh ladies, ladies, ladies! Don’t you get it? It is your duty to provide sex to every man who wants it, no matter how you feel about him. Is he a creep? An MRA? OK, but just kinda not your type? You like him as a person but don’t want to sleep with him? How horrible of you to deny him or any other man you don’t want to sleep with!
But you should also remain a virgin. Honestly, is that so hard?
O.o Unbidden, I’m thinking with portals.
Sexual Marxism is a growing movement and cannot be stoped!
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/sexual-marxism-has-always-been-the-norm-for-human-society/
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/poonicaid-the-right-to-sex-under-socialism/
Yes, this has sort of become the background noise of my entire life. Fortunately, every teaching contract I’ve ever seen requires one not to date a student, or someone over whom one could exercise instructional, evaluative, or supervisory responsibility, even though all involved are adults.
Apparently the invisible hand of the market never gave “Davani” a reach-around. 🙁
DC, that’s very nice dear. Settle down, the grownups are talking.
Nepenthe, I’m really sorry that you didn’t find anyone who likes fat people and isn’t an asshole. 🙁 I assure you, we are out there. But I can totally understand why you might not want to search.
I’ve personally found that leftists are much less likely to be douchebags about my brain conditions, although (of course) the only thing that’s really a predictor is being neuroatypical themselves. And even then…
While the personal may be political, this fucknose has managed to make himself think that the world revolves around his shrimp-dick. How he managed such convolutions, I’ll never know, but as a third-generation socialist and feminist, I have to say it’s pretty funny to watch the contortions.
This is so MRA-counterintuitive.
What is the leap from contraception to discrimination against men? Surely if the woman was more likely to get pregnant she would be even more selective in who she decides to sleep with, because she wants good genes for her child, according to MRA logic?
And since this guy is soo egalitarian, I’m sure he’s willing to give out his penis to every single woman who would be interested too right? Whether she’s over 200 pounds, tall, short, whatever age and whatever looks, correct? I mean, fair is fair!
@Crys
Expecting MRAs to be internally consistent is MISANDRY. Expecting them to be intelligent is MISANDRY. Expectations are MISANDRY, instead we should just worship them for having XY chromasomes and a penis.
Anything less is SUBTLE MISANDRY!!!
… Damn blockquotes. That was supposed to end with
CITATION NEEDED
Damn, I missed the sex-taping dumbass. At least Cloudiah managed a totally awesome script takedown. If I tried that with him, I’d have fallen asleep.
@Crys
Don’t be silly, there are no ugly women, don’t you watch TV? Women only turn ugly if a guy wants to jump in their pants and they refuse, which of course will never happen, because these guys are all loaded with raw sexual magnetism.
Wait… Let me see if I have this figured out.
1: Contraception lets women fuck without fear of getting pregnant.
2: Absence of such a fear lets them fuck whom they want, when they want, as often as they want.
3: Access to abortion makes this even more possible.
This is bad because…?
Oh right, as a result, per our hero, women are fucking “alphas” to the detriment of the “betas” who aren’t beig sexed up.
So he’s saying that if women were at risk of pregnancy they’d be fucking the losers.
What?
Oh, no, it’s that AMERICAN women are shallow hypergamists. In places where they can’t work they hook up with just about anyone.
Or is he talking about Sweden? I’m so confused.
How does he know all this shit?
Oh well, I seem to be “alpha” again, so what do I care?
Bahaha, which regular poster here was suggesting something like ‘sex socialism’ as a fucking joke the other day? And this guy is going ‘why yes, what a marvelous idea!’. Crap, there was even a reddit thread about it.
Cassandra says said:
And I laughed loudly. All the people in the cafe stared. Thanks, cassandrasays- now no man will love me.
varpole: Says, you do realize there’s a considerable difference between attacking female desire, and attacking women with comically inflated expectations, right?
If that’s what he were doing, you might have a point.
He’s not. He said that women having choices is wrong, because they aren’t choosing the men he thinks deserve to get laid.
women generally are harder on men, in terms of looks, than men are of women.
right…. so where are the, “everywoman” movie stars? Where are the women with acne scars (Tommy Lee Jones), or goofy looks (Billy Chrystal), and getting starring roles as “Sexy, powerful, HAWT!”, into their 60s (a la Bruce Willis and Harrison Ford)?
Because those are based on how women, and men, as a whole, see the sexes.
You know, there was a very telling study done on OKCupid a while back; Google should provide ample results. Men rated a sample of women; women rated a sample of men. The women rated a eighty percent of the men as “ugly”.
They did the same for the women. You know what else those studies showed… men only responded to the “HOT” women. Women were much more evenhanded in whom they made contact with.
OH Varpole… can’t you see the folly of linking to your work?
Let me quote the first graf of that anti-manboobz post of yours.
So yesterday I was moved to comment at Boobzland- something I do not recommend to anyone short of the Buddha.
Physician, heal thyself. If you can’t do it (we know you post a lot… dave can even tell us how much; and under how many names), how could a lesser man; one not so firm of character, clear of resolve and aware of all the tricks used by Boobzers?
We use litotes, and metaphor, resort to similies, use alliteration and consonance, and analogies, we know sarcasm, and use logic, and sometimes resort to parody.
We even use LATIN.
If it would be hard for anyone who wasn’t an entrepreneurial up-and coming graduate student in the business world; with a working relationship, to deal with, how can the average joe, not possessed of your stellar qualities, razor wit; and particular gift with words, to hold his own against the screaming mobs of fanatical feminists, wrathfully raging againt the melliflious maunderings of antipathetic anti-misandrists?
Perhaps you were right, and no one should enter this hellpit of mocking Maenadae?
Anon: I see you think there needs to be “pussy redistribution”. I assume you think you are getting too much what (with 36 this year, some of whom you admit to cheating on/misleading).
Since a whole lot of men aren’t getting any, and you have a “wider plethora” of sexual partners than they do, some of those women ought not be fucking you (well, I’d say, based on your description of events that is more a truism on your merits, but shitbirds will be shitbirds, and I know I can’t stop it).
I take it he’s one of the, “lesser” males? How about the, “lesser” females? The guys who can attract the pretty girls aren’t going to settle for them.
ANON: Ask me again when every city in the USA looks like Detroit.
Ok. Let’s make a bet…
How long do you think this will take? Come up with some metrics (this is ignoring that Detroit is a really interesting case study in the economics of society. It’s doing a lot better than people think, and has some of the most vibrant “libertarian” style local economies out there, but I digress), and we’ll take them to a bookie in Vegas.
I’ll lay odds, and you can post against them. Say ten to one, and you kick in $1,000, the bookie holds it, and when your metrics are met (by a deadline) you get the money.
Yeah, I didn’t think so.
And now I have to go to work. See you all in ten hours or so.
Perniculum: Because I can see my whiny “Nice Guy™” past from here, I can see the logic, horrible as it is.
1) Contraceptions allows women to have sex without consequence
2) Therefore they’re going to fuck “Bad Boys”, “Alpha Hunks” and leap around looking for the best deal.
3) If they risk getting pregnant, they will be forced to “re-evaluate”, and look for the stable relationships with Nice Guys* who Respect** them.
*they aren’t
**they don’t
I’m just glad that my “Nice Guy™” tendencies never metastasized into that level of misogyny.
And they just happen to be in G8.
You know, like Detroit.