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Dinesh D’Souza’s backwards future wife on the evils of Women’s Suffrage

Dinesh D’Souza’s future wife?

So good old Dinesh D’Souza — the right-wing culture warrior who hit it big this year with the film 2016: Obama’s America — evidently has a new fiancee. This has caused a big kerfuffle amongst some of D’Souza’s pals on the Christian right, because it turns out that he’s not quite unmarried at the moment, having only just filed for divorce from his current wife of twenty years. Oh, and his new gal pal – 29-year-old Denise Odie Joseph II —  is apparently also married.

Yesterday, D’Souza resigned his lucrative job as president of The King’s College, a small evangelical school in Manhattan (where he was reportedly paid a cool million bucks a year). His explanation for the whole adultery thing?

I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in divorce proceedings.

Yeah, how could a family-values-loving, highly paid president of an evangelical Christian college possibly be expected to know that getting engaged to someone while you’re still married might not go over so well in evangelical circles?

As a result of all the controversy, D’Souza says he and his beloved are “suspending” their engagement.

But enough about Dinesh. Let’s talk about his (possible) future wife. Despite the whole adultery thing, Joseph seems to think of herself as a bit of a crusader for “family  values” against the evil forces of liberalism and feminism.

Indeed, in one blog post earlier this year on Smart Girl Politics, she argued, amongst other things, that women’s suffrage was a terrible mistake. Well, “argued” might be stretching it: the post is a long, barely coherent, free-associational rant laced not only with internalized misogyny but with racism and homophobia to boot. Let’s take a look, shall we?

Beginning with a highly ironic paean to Rick Santorum as the only Republican in the primaries “to acknowledge … that the family unit is the cornerstone of American society,” Joseph then launched into a confusing and confused attack on what she called RINO – that is, Republican In Name Only – men who in her view haven’t been doing enough to keep their wives and daughters in check:

RINO Republicans are analogous to fathers who proudly proclaim their conservativeness at dinner parties or perhaps during early afternoon phone calls to El Rusbo’s show, but let their “independently-minded” wives … pump their teenagers full of birth control and encourage their daughters to live the lives for which their bra-burning foremothers fought so valiantly. …

RINO Dads are those guys who will sheepishly to proudly, fill out Republican ballots on Election Day while their wives openly mark their support for things like, “freedom of choice” and “freedom from poverty.” What most people don’t realize, and indeed what I didn’t realize until I blocked out the “madding crowd,” is that these women and their RINO men are like a vast national living history museum, pictographically illustrating exactly why the 19th Amendment was never the best idea ever and in fact, more closely resembles the greatest show on Earth. Think Ringling Bros. …

When our men cannot even remember the principled widespread women’s opposition to women’s suffrage because they never even learned about it in the first place, but can instantly recall which American president freed the slaves without also recalling the importance of his most seminal quote—“A house divided cannot stand,” our society is in trouble.

She quotes anti-suffragette Madeline Dahlgren (1871):

We believe that God has wisely and well adapted each sex to the proper performance of the duties of each. We believe our trusts to be as important and sacred as any that exist.

It is our fathers, brothers, husbands and sons who represent us at the ballot-box. Our fathers and husbands love us. Our sons are what we make them. We are content that they represent us in the corn-field, the battle-field and the ballot-box, and we them in the school-room, at the fireside, and at the cradle; believing our representation, even at the ballot-box, to be thus more full and impartial that it could possibly be were all women allowed to vote.

Evidently, while God doesn’t think women should vote, he has no problem with women writing barely coherent tirades about politics on a blog called Smart Girl Politics.

After a weird digression in which Joseph explains she will no longer shop at J Crew because one of the designers there paints her son’s fingernails pink, Joseph returns to her attack on the RINO dudes. She spices up her argument with some good old fashioned racism:

While RINO dads and men are often heard snickering about feminists around the water cooler, they do not realize that by virtue of being RINOs, they are complying with the same feminist/liberal system of social engineering they sneer at when manifested in more obvious forms like the black single-mother society. Believing themselves to be infinitely superior by virtue of being married and financially supporting their children, they do not realize that they are setting their own sons up to be the “playas” and their daughters up to be the “played.”

If they took a moment to actually listen to the music their children listened to, or a moment to look at the way their children dress, they would realize that they are going the way of black ghetto society. They would realize that by failing to do the job their foremothers cherished, their wives, who don’t even know enough to scoff at Madeline Dahlgren and who should be the proud, moral guardians of their homes, are leading their RINO (and real Republican civilization) to their inevitable demises.

This, for some reason, leads into an extended attack on the singer KeSha and the video for her song “Tik Tok,” after which she returns to the subject of RINO dads.

Apparently though her video father seems capable of amassing enough money to afford his family a comfortable lifestyle and manicured lawn, he is completely powerless against the will of his monstrous teenaged whore child. This video might as well be a Discovery Channel documentary on the behavior of that intriguing species known as the RINO Dad. Thank the Lord no man will ever expect Ke$ha to be the moral guardian of his home, seeing that her father’s generation seems to be the last marrying generation. And who can blame them? With Ke$has or watered-down versions to choose from, what man would want to voluntarily impregnate a woman? …

Perhaps Ke$ha’s father learned along the way that if he beat the hell out of Ke$ha like she deserves and then sent her to a convent, he would become a social pariah and end up in jail.

I guess “beating the hell” out of children is a family value?

After a bit more KeSha-inspired free association, Joseph returns to chronicling the coming apocalypse, and manages to produce this unholy muddle of a sentence:

From extreme vanity sizing to demands that magazine models (anorexic and unattractively thin models notwithstanding) look like the “real” (cuz I guess the rest of us don’t count) size 8 woman, who historically would measure in at a size 16 to 20, modern women of the West are on the apocalyptic “Wild Hunt” for the ideal and are leaving terrific characteristic destruction in its wake.

Then she follows up with this shorter but equally baffling sentence:

 As women spearhead the demise of the ideal, the alternative to hypocrisy, they spearhead the demise of social order as we know it and love it.

Then — perhaps unwisely, in light of her current situation with the still-married Mr. D’Souza — she returns to the importance of traditional family values, once again with a side order of racism:

Henceforth, all of us will be staring down the barrel of life in a hip hop video or government-funded project where no one makes pretenses about “what they be.” Where no one has to succumb to sin because sinning is the status quo and where no one need ridiculously pretend to be faithful because well, we would have wisely outgrown such primitive notions about nuclear families as individual economies. We would have outgrown capitalism itself because government entitlement spending would have to grow ten-fold to accommodate and assist the burgeoning hoards of single-mom children born of the scarred sons of divorce who accidentally inseminated their female sex partners, or couples who themselves participated in that modern American rite of passage we call divorce.

Huh. You mean that “rite of passage” that you and Mr. D’Souza will soon both be intimately familiar with?

After an extended  defense (I guess) of Sarah Palin, she winds up her attack on hypocritical “in name only” Republican dudes:

RINO Dads, the next time you see your daughter bounding (or sauntering) down the stairs in a pair of booty shorts with messages like “juicy” emblazoned on her backside, please stop her, turn her around, and force her to go upstairs and change.  As you march her room-ward, tell her why she can’t dress like this, school her on the consequences of her behavior.  Do it even if you were on your way to your man cave to watch x-rated content featuring teenaged-looking girls dancing around in booty shorts with messages like “juicy” emblazoned on their backsides. Do it for your daughter, yourself, society, the ideal, but most of all, do it because you now remember that hypocrisy has always been our last, best hope.

Apparently so.

Hat tip to Ed Brayton of Dispatches From the Culture Wars for unearthing this post from Ms. Joseph.

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inurashii
inurashii
8 years ago

just wow

blitzgal
8 years ago

So, I fully expect that Denise Odie will not be voting in this year’s presidential election, because God wills it. RIGHT, DENISE?!

timetravellingfool
8 years ago

That was, um, strange? Is she saying it’s ok to look at teen porn, so long as it isn’t your daughter? And can someone decode this for me so I can be properly outraged:

While RINO dads and men are often heard snickering about feminists around the water cooler, they do not realize that by virtue of being RINOs, they are complying with the same feminist/liberal system of social engineering they sneer at when manifested in more obvious forms like the black single-mother society. Believing themselves to be infinitely superior by virtue of being married and financially supporting their children, they do not realize that they are setting their own sons up to be the “playas” and their daughters up to be the “played.”

Um, I know she means black single mothers are bad somehow, because she is clearly an asshole, but how are white republican men exactly the same as black single mothers? And why?

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Bizarre arguments, family values, hypocrisy, and sophistry? Dinesh and Denise were made for each other.

lauralot89
8 years ago

For a second I thought the King College in the post was the one in Tennessee. I help set up portals for online college courses and the TN college is one of my company’s clients. I was trying to remember if I’d ever communicated with a D’Souza.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

Ah, I’m glad I can blame Denise Odie Joseph II for my sudden desire to listen to “Tik Tok”.

Scott L
Scott L
8 years ago

My work addled mind can’t withstand gibberish of this magnitude!

Amused
8 years ago

Do it even if you were on your way to your man cave to watch x-rated content featuring teenaged-looking girls dancing around in booty shorts with messages like “juicy” emblazoned on their backsides. Do it for your daughter, yourself, society, the ideal, but most of all, do it because you now remember that hypocrisy has always been our last, best hope.

Remember: that’s what Jesus would do. Explain that to your wife when you direct her to clean the jizz off your couch in your mancave. A good non-feminist Christian will understand.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

As best I can figure out, Republican men’s failure to beat their children into submission is “…complying with the same feminist/liberal system of social engineering they sneer at …” sorta.

Polliwog
8 years ago

Okay, I had to go look at her post to find out why, precisely, she believes someone needs to “beat the hell out of” Ke$ha. The answers, as far as I can tell, primarily boil down to:

– She imagines that Ke$ha believes that the letter S is an “archaic trapping of grace and beauty.”
– When Ke$ha wakes up in the morning, she feels like a black guy.
– Ke$ha is probably a feminist because she doesn’t brush her teeth.
– Ke$ha rides a bicycle.

THAT MONSTROUS TEENAGED WHORE CHILD.

I am endlessly amused by how frothingly mad this breed of conservative can get over nothing in particular.

Socialkenny
8 years ago

From Dinesh’s girl problem or whatever, I just wanna point out that this dude is very stupid and inarticulate.

I was watching an episode of Real Time with Bill Maher, Denish came on, and Bill made him looked like a 2 year old in the sense that Dinesh wasn’t able to answer not 1 question Bill asked him about his illiterate film and his assertions about Obama.

This guy Dinesh could only be a darling to right-wing idiots and Fox News viewers, ’cause any sane person would totally chew this guy up on his beliefs about Obama in this film.
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Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
8 years ago

My learning for the day from the screed on her website: only heterosexuals conduct valid research. I loved the one comment on her site which was impressed with her use of footnotes. At least four were pop culture references (e.g. to Ke$ha’s Tik Tok video). The Madeline Dahlgren source was given as the spearhead.

LOL.

So as she’s his mistress, this definition requires that they be having sex, so they’re both committing adultery. According to biblical values, we should be stoning her.

Amused
8 years ago

So as she’s his mistress, this definition requires that they be having sex, so they’re both committing adultery. According to biblical values, we should be stoning her.

And according to her values, it’s all the cheating men who should be throwing the stones.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
8 years ago

@Amused hmm… we need a big venue and sequentially numbered tickets, so we can rotate through who’s throwing when. I just can’t see any other way of handling such a large crowd.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

do it because you now remember that hypocrisy has always been our last, best hope

DIES!

I don’t know if this is hilariously unintentional, or unsurpassably brilliant ass coverage

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
8 years ago

O/T but puppies!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/puppies-kept-boy-lost-in-forest-warm-overnight/

Short story: a child was lost overnight in the woods with some of his family’s puppies, and the mother dog lead rescued right to them.

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
8 years ago

Since I sew as a hobby, I find this bit particularly charming:

size 8 woman, who historically would measure in at a size 16 to 20

By “historically,” she pretty obviously means “pattern size,” which hasn’t changed much in many years although ready-to-wear sizing is now all over the map.

What I love about her comment, though, is that Ms. Joseph II seems to think being a size 8 is a bad thing, because really we should all be shamefully wearing size 16-20, we shameful fatties. I think? If that’s not it then I don’t even know what’s going on in that sentence.

(For comparison: “straight-size” patterns are generally available in even-numbered sizes from 4 to 24. In ready-to-wear, that translates roughly to sizes 0 to 14, or what you can find in the typical women’s clothing store.)

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

“to accommodate and assist the burgeoning hoards of single-mom children”

Homophones, how do they work!?

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

@chibigodzilla

Well, considering her politics, I’m sure she expects to see single moms’ children having to hoard and save due to poverty. Either that, or “single-mom children” refers to all the teens that she’s planning on denying abortions to.

Vitamin D
Vitamin D
8 years ago

Are they hoarded in binders?

Sgt Grumbles
Sgt Grumbles
8 years ago

Women like this remind me of anthropomorphized food mascots that are desperate to be eaten.

Polliwog
8 years ago

What I love about her comment, though, is that Ms. Joseph II seems to think being a size 8 is a bad thing, because really we should all be shamefully wearing size 16-20, we shameful fatties. I think? If that’s not it then I don’t even know what’s going on in that sentence.

Yup, that’s pretty clearly the intent. It’s made that much more ridiculous in that it is immediately preceded by complaining about “anorexic and unattractively thin” women. Basically, it appears that what we’re supposed to take away from this is that she is the correct size for a woman to be is whatever size Ms. Joseph is, and all other women should hang their heads in shame at not being her.

Polliwog
8 years ago

In the words of our American Beauty, Ke$ha, in her homage to bestiality, “This place about to BLOWW UPPP AAHA AHA UH OHH!

Just found this line. Cannot. Stop. Laughing.

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

Ah, I see. In Josepsh’s bleak dystopia “Single Moms”, will hoard “children” to collect maximum assistance from the government so that the “single moms” can continue to live their lavish lifestyles without working. My apologies, I was still living i a world where raising children actually costs money.

Of course, we all know that married parents in no way get government assistance (say, in the form of tax breaks) to help raise children.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
8 years ago

I’d say he’s found his soulmate . . .

Amused
8 years ago

I’d say he’s found his soulmate . . .

That would have been true, if only either of them had a soul.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I don’t know what this woman is smoking, but I’d like to try it if only to see what it’s like being that dumb for a day.

KE$HA, really? I hate her for being one of the harbingers of musical doom, but she’s not exactly tearing apart the fabric of society. Just making it a little dingier.

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

@hellkell: I don’t know, she was definitely right on one point:

But I digress.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Yes, she digresses all over the place.

RubyHypatia
RubyHypatia
8 years ago

I hate that double-standard so many men have. I remember a guy once told me that he loved looking at women in bikinis, but wouldn’t allow his wife and daughter to wear them. He’s a pig.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

Hmm…

I feel like I really need NWO to weigh in on this. On the one hand this woman is a moron and a total hypocrite who hits a lot of his favorite misogynist talking points: whorish teenage girls, feminism causing single motherhood in the, the moral and economic infallibility of the nuclear family, etc., etc. In this regard, she and the Owly are clearly kindred spirits.

On the other hand, she is a woman which makes her a defacto liar. And she’s out in public dressed in a manner which  plainly indicates her desire to have sex with men who aren’t her husband or her fiancée. 

So is she a fearless ally and crusader? Or a faithless lying whore?

I need to know.

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

In other news, denver zoo employees save a baby tapir: http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2012/10/mouth-to-snout-cpr-saves-tiny-tapir.html

Shaenon
8 years ago

I do love D’Souza’s “I had no idea adultery was wrong” defense. He has clearly studied at the feet of Steve Martin:

You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. “Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?” First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, “Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, ‘You.. have never paid taxes’?” Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: “I forgot!”

How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don’t say “I forgot”? Let’s say you’re on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, “I forgot armed robbery was illegal.” Let’s suppose he says back to you, “You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, ‘I forgot’?” Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!”

Shaenon
8 years ago

And yes, apparently size 8 is disgustingly fat, but sizes 0-4 are disgustingly skinny. I guess we can figure out what size she is, anyway.

Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

Polliwog: When I read that bit about Ke$ha’s ‘homage to bestiality’, I had to go and see if I could determine what she was rambling on about. So first I looked up the lyrics (which I’d also done for Tik Tok–which, I’m just gonna note here, has considerably more lyrical depth than, say, “Duke of Earl” or “I am Henry the Eighth I Am”, so so much for today’s kids being the ones with ADD, I guess). No clue there, nothing about any animals.

So I opted to look for the video. Okay, bunch of people wearing unicorn masks. Well, I guess that if she starts sleeping with them, it might be a kind of bestiality (more xenophilia, but we’ll let that go for now). But wait, no, although she does sidle up to a couple of them, and does kiss one mask, her romantic lead seems to be a dashing young normal human.

They flirt, they challenge one another, then… they pull out rainbow guns and start shooting at one another, killing unicorn-people caught in the cross-fire.

Now, this is obviously pretty looped, but even a poor addle-brained sex-betraying male feminist myself can find some meaning to the notion of a couple going out and “killing the unicorns”. It even would fit the original screed rather nicely as further evidence of pop culture contempt for conservative values. But our Authoress (she’d no doubt reject the term “Author” applied to her, since, you know, she has lady-parts and we must always keep the gender lines clear), instead of just complaining about a video lauding the willful destruction of purity and virginity, instead has to go hunting for something else even worse, just in order to sell her point.

I’m used to conservative pundits being willfully dishonest, and stupid in terms of not getting basic logic. But when you start passing over actual cheap shots to create strawmen to flail against, I really have to wonder about your basic competence as a human being.

Anathema
8 years ago

I read Denise Odie Joseph’s anti-feminist screed a couple of days ago. I thought it was absolutely hilarious . . .

And then I remembered that her future husband has similarly anti-feminist views and that he’s actually admired in certain right-wing circles. And that he has a daughter.

And now it doesn’t seem quite as funny as it did when I first read it.

lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

While RINO dads and men are often heard snickering about feminists around the water cooler, they do not realize that by virtue of being RINOs, they are complying with the same feminist/liberal system of social engineering they sneer at when manifested in more obvious forms like the black single-mother society.

Your husband may be racist, but is he Conservative Family Values™ enough to translate that racism into sexism?

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

Lol, I just found this part in the middle of her Ke$ha rant:

But I digress, again.

Yo dogg, I heard you like digressions, so we put a digression in your digression in your analysis of the music video for a 3 year old song.

julesagray
8 years ago

E-fucking-gads.

lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

Also: who exactly considers (Sean) (“)((P)uff) D(a/i)ddy (“)(Combs) to be a “rap hero”? “Rap also-ran”, “rap shameless opportunist”, “rap frequent-name-changer”, or “rap talent scout” might reflect general opinion a little better.

I’m going to guess Denise Opie Johnson isn’t really much into music made by people even a shade darker calico, though, so it’s not surprising.

lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

*darker than calico

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
8 years ago

Wow. That’s some first class WTF right there. I mean, the primo shit.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

RINO Dads are those guys who will sheepishly to proudly, fill out Republican ballots on Election Day

I understand someone claiming a person in office is a RINO or DINO when they fail to adhere to their chosen party’s expressed principles.

But how is someone who is a registered Republican who votes for Republicans a RINO?

lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

@princessbonbon

They don’t hit their kids enough, obviously.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
8 years ago

So, does she vote or not? Yes or no? If she doesn’t, she’s at least consistent in her stupidity. If she does … ah, well, then it just comes back to the old “Class X of persons should not be allowed to vote because some of them vote differently or have different ideas from me!”

Hypocrite.

Falconer
8 years ago

@Nobinayamu: Well, I’m no NWO, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night*, so let me give it a go:

It all has to do with the Rothchild-controlled UN Resolution Against Public Nose Picking. This seems like a simple and non-binding encouragement to at least use a kleenex, bro, but in actuality it is a clever ruse to disguise their nefarious plot to ship us all to the Yukon to polish husky dogs’ toenails because women are always right and men are always OH GOD I GAVE MY BRAIN A REPETITIVE STRESS INJURY why did I think this was a good idea?

*Note: Did not actually stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

princessbonbon
8 years ago

They don’t hit their kids enough, obviously.

The sad part is, I think you probably are right.

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