Hey, ladies! You know how the dudes of the so-called manosphere are always saying horrible shit about you? They’re not doing it out of hate. No, no, they’re doing it for your own good! In a guest post on the blog Freedom Twenty-Five, Matt Forney offers women his own brand of tough (alleged) love:
The manosphere is frequently accused of being misogynistic because we mock fat girls, disdain sluts and criticize the behavior of modern women. … But scientific studies and common sense both show that women are generally happiest when they’re physically fit, chaste and focused on their families instead of their careers. Women who are virgins are exponentially less likely to divorce; women with BMIs in the normal range are more likely to have fulfilling relationships instead of being pumped and dumped; women who throw their lives into their jobs are less happy than those who become wives and mothers.
If you follow the link back to his post you will see how Forney has carefully footnoted all these assertions. For example, his line about women who aren’t fat having better relationships links to this carefully constructed academic study.
Oh, wait, that’s actually a link to a discussion on Yahoo Answers that’s full of alleged wisdom like this:
Fat women have to settle for less for the same reason that people: in wheelchairs, poor people [especially men], balding people, or single people with children have to settle for less. They have less to offer on the dating market, so; there is a much smaller pool of people willing to date them. And the people who are willing to date them are usually of lower quality.
You can’t argue with that kind of SCIENCE.
Forney continues:
Basically, for women, the modern feminist consumerist lifestyle is a path to misery and loneliness.
[Citation needed] [And by “citation” I don’t mean “some dude spouting shit on Yahoo answers”]
In light of that knowledge, ask yourself this: who are the real misogynists? The ones who are guiding women back onto the path to happiness, or the ones encouraging them to destroy themselves through poor life choices?
Here’s an example of Forney “guiding women back onto the path of happiness,” taken from an earlier post on his own blog:
Bashing fat girls is all well and good, but how many of us have taken the fight to the enemy? By not viciously rubbing their hideousness in their faces, we are encouraging fatties to blimp up even more. Silence implies consent.
Back to his Freedom Twenty-Five post:
The fact is if you defend and excuse away womens’ bad behavior, fully aware that they’re harming themselves, you don’t truly love them. If you want to avert someone from traveling down the path towards death and destitution, you’re going to have to get in their face and risk hurting their feeeelings. In that sense, not only do we in the manosphere love women, we perhaps love them more than any other men in the world.
The manosphere is a space for men, but it also doubles as a mass intervention for the female of the species. Stop crying about your hurt feeeeelings and listen up, ladies. You might learn something.
Matt Forney, you’re a shithead.
I say that out of love.
Off topic but it may cheer people up to read reviews of binders* that have started springing up on Amazon.
*women not included
@ drst and the silence implies consent thing- Woooaaa, good eye, there. That one flew under my radar.
I love those Amazon comments. Also OT, but this is a cute puffin.
Puffin! That was so cute it made BoyFantastic get killed in his videogame.
Please apologize to BoyFantastic on my behalf.
@cloudiah
I forgot how cute puffins were! *squee*
“Beyond the obvious bullshit in this statement, why are you trying to love me already? I sure as hell don’t love you. I don’t even like you. I don’t want your icky damaged version of love. Go away with it, burn it with fire, it is gross.”</em.
Yah. Where this guy goes wrong is: he doesn't understand that women don't want him to truly love them. What women want is for him to leave them alone. That could be an honest or a dishonest mistake but either way it's his firs false premise and the origin of all his other crap.
Since I’m already going all OT in this thread, I’m just going to continue with another example of the ridiculous things MRAs find to be angry about.
Okay, it isn’t the greatest slogan. But the poster is actually gender-neutral! Shouldn’t they be happy? A bunch of them even think the image makes it look more like the woman is the offender — shouldn’t that be like Yahtzee for them?
And they’re all trying to pretend that “inappropriately” is so hard to define.
Im not sure how being a virgin ensures a happy marriage. Oh, he means a virgin UNTIL married! terrible writing, and also not necessarily true. Also studies show (not yahoo studies of course) that unmarried women are less depressed than married women. Where is he getting his SCIENCE!?
oh, and Women are their own species? Explains why we’re so often referred to as “females”.
I WIN THE INTERNET!
Oh, Hellkell, that’s just cruel.
I don’t know about how well this will go over, but here’s my tough-love message to Matt Forney:
Funny…studies also show that married men are happier. Yet somehow I don’t think that advice would go over well in the manosphere. Also those “virgins less likely to divorce” studies? one of them was done by The Heritage Foundation. Real unbiased organization there. Also correlation does not imply causation. Also I still haven’t come across one good explanation why divorce rates are the be all end all for civilization.
Ever notice also how the manosphere never ever brings up the topic of fat men, except when they’re childishly trying to insult David? Being in shape only has positive effects on women now and not men? Or could it possibly be that they don’t give a rats ass about our health, just how we look and if it appeals to their bonerz or not.
I mean this is so similar to some other manosphere rationalizations regarding the past denial of women’s rights. Usually they go like this: silly women! the only reason men denied you the right to vote/work/own your property was for your own good!!! it was to keep you safe…we all know how dangerous voting and owning your house is! Its fair we get to physically punish you too, afterall as your OWNERS we’re responsible if you do something bad. So what if you’re legally considered property, think of me, the poor man and all the responsibility it is to own a woman. But worship me for being such a loving owner!”
“Silence implies consent”
ah…this is the cherry on the cake though. Not at all surprising considering manospherians and their horrid views on rape. No creepwad, silence does not imply consent. It implies either or, or if anything, indifference.
*finishes off Toblerone from last night* tastes so much better knowing that it pisses them off 😛
The irony, it burns.
@Cloudiah
could you link to just the poster? I really don’t want to click on that thread :S
@Quackers, that’s understandable. 0_0
Here ’tis:
He also complains that ‘allowing’ women to be fat allows for them to give birth to ‘retards’ (seriously wtf?!) that he has to pay tax money for the care of. He’s a real humanitarian that guy.
His post gives me yet another reason to be glad that I am a fat chick. I love that my mere existence is enough to piss off self-important jerks like him.
AAAHH! OhholyshitthatgifcreepyasFUCK!
“We hate you because we care. Really, ladies, this is why we hate you.”
“So you’ll work extra hard to become the self-motivating blow-up dolls that we want you to be. Exist to please us. Don’t have sex before we met you because slut and it makes us insecure. Be the exact size {whatever} that we like because what we like. Be our perfect little RealDoll because that’s what we want and you having any independent ideas about what works for you in your life is A Bad Thing. Stop thinking of yourself as a person because RealDoll without batteries or whatever they use. It’s all about us so accept it and get over it and be RealDoll that cooks and cleans.”
Fuck. I used to be a 13-year-old and I was an asshole because 13. I grew up. Give it a try fellas. You’d be amazed how much bigger the world gets, and how much more interesting it becomes.
By the way, how big of a douche must one be to suggest that other people must get your consent or approval for matters pertaining to their own bodies? Who gives a fuck what you like or don’t, Matt Forney? It’s none of your business, asshole.
They are seriously offended by that? what the ever loving fuck?
actually to me it looks like the woman is the one who looks like she’s trying to cop a feel while the guy is just standing there.
Why can’t they just come out and admit they want there to be zero campaigns or laws against sexual harassment? they just don’t want it discussed ever, because no matter what they will pull the misandry card. And they accuse us of trying to remove freedom of speech.
According to r/mr, there’s no need for anti-harassment campaigns because the only women who take advantage of increased enforcement are bored, malicious women who want to victimize random men for no reason.
Meanwhile, they probably think wearing this shirt is hi-fucking-larious…..
I know that you Matt Forney think that any man who does not complain that a woman is not a biddable virginal male approved weight woman is not that high quality however the rest of us actually think men who not judgmental smegheads like you are pretty darn high quality.
“Silence implies consent.”
Disgusting beyond belief.