Over on A Voice for Men, our old friend JohnTheLiarOther has decided he has a problem with calling men the MRAs’ favorite made-up word: “mangina.”
Why? Because the term is misogynistic, assuming that the worst insult you can deliver a man is to associate him with a woman’s vagina?
Oh no. His problem is that, while mangina “is appropriately insulting, it lacks explanatory power.”
Apparently, instead of using one word, JtO would prefer to use lots and lots of words. Some of them over and over. In his post, he launches into a sarcastic attack against “manginas” and “white knights.”
This slave, this coward, this supplicant seeking approval – he is the good man, and to prove it he will scourge every other man; every other man, who is not, like him, demonstrating that he is one of the good men; on his knees, or already busy attacking other men who don’t yet know they should live in a state of ongoing apology for existing. …
A man, surrendering reason, morality, surrendering the right to an identity as a human being, in favor of the consensus identity afforded to him by the group, based on his utility, his conformance, or his affectations of supplication to the preferred members of the group, such as women.
And that’s just the opener. He marches onward, blasting “manginas” as
snivelling, apologetic supplicants for approval … amoral, violent enforcers of group think and conformism
He pauses in his attacks on “manginas” for a moment to take on feminists, declaring them “immature, violent, prejudiced [and] bigoted,” and even possibly
demonstrate[ing] other signs of mental illness, particularly, a constellation of qualities associated with high conflict personality disorders … paranoia, hatred, and ultimately, violence.
Then back to “manginas,” whom he describes as
enforcers of a public ethic of atavistic group think; us-versus-them along lines of trivial disagreement, social ostracism, fear driven conformism and authoritarian compliance; of hatred, and of violent enforcement of social norms which are fundamentally toxic and dysfunctional. …
As you may have noticed, he’s starting to repeat himself, a bit like a stuck record. Over the course of his relatively short post, he uses “coward” and its variations four times; “apologetic” and variations six times; “conformity” and variants five times; “supplicant” and variations three times; “on his knees” and variants three times; “enforcers of group think” twice. There are probably other repeated terms. But let’s continue on:
And all of this is enabled by the cowardice of those males who the group will define as good men. The compliant, the apologetic, and the heroes enforcing the whim of overgrown toddlers with princess complexes.
Whoops! He’s gone back to complaining about feminists again. And in case you didn’t get the bit about “toddlers” the first time, he repeats it, bashing feminists again as
grown up toddlers who discount your humanity and the humanity of all men in favor of utility and conformance.
Glad to see you’ve decided to move on from childish namecalling, JtO.
Since the years between 1 and 3 are a time of great cognitive, emotional and social development, I’m gonna take “toddlers” as a compliment.
The only men I know of who might want to consider apologizing for existing are JtO and other MRAs.
Toddlers are also often very adorable and cute (they have to be otherwise we might not have survived as a species.)
I can’t get over how ridiculous every single one of the commenters is. They can’t get through a single comment without throwing in some kind of slur, ad hominem, or bitter reference to the perceived wrongs done to them.
Ironic, given the content of the post, but it comes off as super pathetic.
I just can’t for the life of me think why these d00dz are called a hate group. Can you?
Every time I read “JohntheOther”, I read it in my head as JohntheMother.
“[…] snivelling, apologetic supplicants for approval … amoral, violent enforcers of group think and conformism, […] demonstrate[ing] other signs of mental illness, particularly, a constellation of qualities associated with high conflict personality disorders … paranoia, hatred, and ultimately, violence.”
Occam’s razor suggests the explanation is simpler: “psychological projection”.
Meh, calling someone a dick isn’t misandry.
But that lovely picture of you reminds me: wasn’t MRA bingo supposed to have “David is fat!” as the centre square? I feel gipped.
If you take. JTOs description of mangina and apply it to a woman, she’d. Be an mra dream wife.
appleeye, I think they’d agree. Those dudes are hella into gender essentialism.
It’s funny, I just read some avfm comments, some actually say that the word mangina might make people who don’t know MRAs believe they think negatively of women… You wouldn’t want people to believe *that*! It just happens to be that 100% of entitled, disgusting, perverted, dumb-as-fuck, violent, secretly in positions of power putting men-pawns to hide misandry, bigoted, filthy, frigid slutty whore, dependent adult-child, deluded, manipulating, influenceable, incapable, lazy, fat carrousel-rider who won’t have sex with me, cannibal genital mutilator, hard chair supporter, eugenist, falsely raped, lying liars thieves are women. But that’s just a coincidence. MRAs tellin’ it like it is.
I can’t get over how badly done the “beware, manginas are afoot” graphic is. I keep wondering why Michael Moore is whipping himself in a church and whether he realizes that he’s about to set fire to his flogger.
While JtO is working his way through the DSM he really should look up “projection”.
No, that’s Man Boobz Troll Bingo. I’m still working on it.
“Every time I read “JohntheOther”, I read it in my head as JohntheMother.”
Mo’ like JohntheBOTHER amirite?
Speaking of toddlers, here’s some awful news:
http://now.msn.com/jj-hart-toddler-doesnt-know-therapy-chickens-were-beheaded
http://www.online-literature.com/shakespeare/richardII/6/
He’s been reading Richard II – I think.
This reminds me of when Bush said that being called a racist was the worst moment in his presidency. It’s so much worse to be called a bigot than to be on the receiving end of the bigotry, obvs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/nov/04/george-w-bush-kanye-west
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1) He is either horrifically bad at assimilating and retaining information, or the closest he’s ever been to a psychology textbook (much less an abnormal psychology textbook) is when he walks by a library.
2) This isn’t even funny, just long winded. I demand that the bigots be entertaining!
I literally cannot figure out if he’s whining about the Good Men Project again or he’s just decided to pick on the word “good men” for no reason. Either one is plausible.
I mean, they do have a habit of calling the GMP the “Good Mangina Project.”
ROFL – all JohnthePother’s blatherings actually describe MRAs, if you substitute his stupid idea about men kowtowing to women to these jerks who are so besotted with each other and women-hating. All that crap about what makes a real man, conformity, adherence to the group – that’s pure MRM stuff. The denial of identity as a human is the lens through which MRAs see women, and wailing about denial of love is just a joke, because the seething hatred MRAs feel for anyone not like them has convinced me they are utterly loveless. They see men who don’t think like them, or men of colour,or not-hetero men (or any combination of the three) as threats or lesser beings. Women and children they see as property – property they don’t even like much, to borrow a phrase used of a scumbag who murdered his wife in Melbourne recently.
By their categories of Real Men (MRAs) vs Manginas (men who actually think, have empathy for others, aren’t bigots and, good god, can, with a bit of luck, WRITE) then I’ll take a mangina any day. They pass the test of “decent human being” which the MRAs spectacularly fail.
Pother:
1. A commotion; a disturbance.
2. A state of nervous activity; a fuss.
3. A cloud of smoke or dust that chokes or smothers.
Seems to sum up his carryings on and his writing.
Damn, I thought for sure I’d get a bingo. 🙁
What the fuck is this “violence” that he’s talking about “good men” perpetuating? Is there a crew of guys going and beating the shit out of rapists now?
Disagreeing with MRAs probably counts as violence in the Pother’s alleged mind.
John the Pouter.