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The Amazing Atheist spits on the memory of Amanda Todd [TW: bullying, sexual shaming, self-harm, suicide]

You may have read about the heartbreaking story of Amanda Todd, a Canadian teenager who recently posted a much-watched YouTube video (posted below) detailing the bullying and harassment she’d endured online and in real life. This past Wednesday, she was found dead, the apparent victim of suicide.

Here, from the Vancouver Sun, is the basic outline of Amanda’s story:

Amanda was 12 years old when she made a mistake that would haunt her until her death three years later.

Her ordeal started while she was fooling around online with friends. She probably didn’t think it was risky behaviour when she lifted her top to flash the person who was flattering her at the other end of the webcam.

Amanda’s moment of indiscretion was not unusual for someone her age: Sexting and using webcams to share sexual photos is a growing trend among children, some so young they are still in grade school.

“The Internet stalker she flashed kept stalking her,” said Carol. “Every time she moved schools he would go undercover and become a Facebook friend. What the guy did was he went online to the kids who went to (the new school) and said that he was going to be a new student — that he was starting school the following week and that he wanted some friends and could they friend him on Facebook.”

“He eventually gathered people’s names and sent Amanda’s video to her new school.”

The video and photos went to teachers, to parents, to Facebook friends, which lead to repeated taunts: “Oh, there’s the porn star.” …

Amanda was the victim of unrelenting blackmail. And the cyberspace stalker was aided by people in Amanda’s real-world life — kids who would share the photos on their cellphones, kids who would gang up to hurl first verbal abuse and then fists at her.

Amanda’s story illustrates what can happen to young girls when sexualized images of them floating around online, whether they’ve put these pictures up themselves in a moment of poor judgement or whether someone has stolen them from password-locked private photo albums, or whether someone has surreptitiously taken an “upskirt” or “down-the-blouse” or some other compromising picture of them in public. This is the sort of damage that things like the Jailbait and Creepshots subreddits can do to young girls. This is why it’s so important that things like these subreddits be shut the fuck down.

Sadly, even after her suicide, Amanda remains the target of bullies and assholes online.

One of these assholes? The MRA and atheist videoblogger and all-around terrible person known to the world as The Amazing Atheist, whom we first met when he had a Reddit meltdown and started spewing misogynistic abuse at his detractors. Now he’s spitting on Amanda’s memory.

Mocking the format of Amanda’s video, in which told her story by holding up sheets of paper to the camera describing the abuse she’s endured, The Amazing Atheist posted this picture to his Tumblr blog earlier today:

I simply can’t comprehend the mind of someone whose response to Amanda’s story is this. Beyond awful.

Here’s Amanda’s video:

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The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

He isn’t amazing, whatever he likes to call himself. He’s just a horrible creep and bullying loser.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

TAA is a piece of shit.

NWO, don’t even think about firing up your victim blaming horseshit on this subject. Not in the mood.

drashizu
9 years ago

God damn, this day just got worse. Why are some people such fucking assholes? Both the people who tormented her and The Agonizing Asshat.

clairedammit
clairedammit
9 years ago

I hadn’t read that story. It’s heartbreaking.

I was goaded by a group of guys (my age) to flash them when I was 13. I knew immediately when I did it that it was a stupid thing to do. But it was 1976 and there were no phone cameras or Facebook. Rumors got around for a couple of weeks and I just rolled my eyes at people and they died down.

This girl was never given a chance.

At one time, stuff you did on the internet stayed on the internet, and stuff you did IRL stayed IRL. Not any more. We need to call bullying what it is, and blame the bullies, not the victims.

Yeah, TAA is a piece of shit. I’m not sure what point he thinks he’s making here. (Well, I know what point he thinks he’s making, but he’s so very wrong.)

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

What a complete asshole. No, you’re not one of the other people who’ve died, because you’re not dead, jackass! She was fifteen for fuck’s sake!

Ophelia Benson
9 years ago

Oh, jeezis. It just never bottoms out; always lower to go.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

And it’s not just him, I’ve come to expect the worse from The Amazing Asshat. What really gets me is all the people liking and reblogging that post approvingly.

clairedammit
clairedammit
9 years ago

Is there any way we can make this a troll-free zone? I just don’t want to hear it here.

timetravellingfool
timetravellingfool
9 years ago

I couldn’t finish, too horrible. Do they know who her stalker was?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

Seconded, clairedammit. I can think of a few regular trolls I really don’t need to see gloating over this girl’s death. Actually there’s one whose old comments I read last night who’s really overdue for banning.

bright24
bright24
9 years ago

TAA just makes me want to vomit.
That poor, poor kid.

stellascarlett
9 years ago

I live in Vancouver, and it’s been absolutely all over the news. Our premier filmed a youtube video response encouraging everyone to participate in October is Anti-Bullying month. An achingly sad story. Her mother made a statement today in the press, which I have yet to read. She suffered so much in her short life. I hope she rests in peace.

Catfish
Catfish
9 years ago

I used to like TAA’s review videos – allthough blatant sexims did shine trough them from time to time. Then I happened to hear about his anti-feminist bullshit and despite my better judgement, decided to take a quick look at some of his youtube videos. I’d seen a few before, which really didn’t expose him as the assbag that he is, since they didn’t cover a topic that required any real thinking or research.

I’m just glad I had stopped using youtube through a user account by then so that I couldn’t comment. That likely would not have ended pretty.
The video itself made it loud and clear that he had absolutely no idea what feminism even means – he always talked about it like it was the equilavent of female chauvinism or something similar to that.
Even later on I also bumped into his posts elsewhere on teh intahwebs, including threads where he tried on purpose triggering abuse and rape victims (because he didn’t believe that triggers were a real thing – again, an astonishing lack of research).
Not to mention the verbal abuse, threats of physical violence and all around idiotic reasoning.

For someone who claims to be a humanist and oh so reasonable, he surely is a pathetic excuse for a human being. If he really cared, he would not behave this way. He’d know better.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

So TAA is jealous of and lashing out at a dead teenager because she’s getting more attention than him? He really is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Sarah Dalton
Sarah Dalton
9 years ago

In the long list of terrible things here, doesn’t this also include making and distributing chill pronography? Isn’t this stalker (and other people who passed along the photo) guilty of several child porn crimes, along with the many other terrible things they did?

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

David, I don’t mean to sound cold, but you might want to add self-harm to the list of triggers. Amanda’s video mentions cutting and has a picture of her arm with cuts and I can’t imagine that would be good for people with self-harm issues.

freitag235
freitag235
9 years ago

I don’t have words. This is very fucked up, and I wish TAA to…no I don’t. I’d wish him the worst things I could think of but that would make me as bad as he is and I don’t want to do that. I will go off and watch something and try not to cry. (Yes it’s unmanly. I don’t give a shit.)

Polliwog
9 years ago

Yeah, TAA is a piece of shit. I’m not sure what point he thinks he’s making here.

It appears to be, “How dare anyone pay attention to anyone who isn’t ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! Look how I can be an asshole for attention! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!” Which, as far as I can tell, is pretty much the only point he ever makes.

Ologies
9 years ago

Stay classy, shitbeard.

Shiraz
Shiraz
9 years ago

That poor girl. I don’t have the words.

TAA, I knew he was an asshole before, he just keeps proving it over and over again. Despicable dirtbag.

cloudiah
9 years ago

A piece of shit is so much better than TAA could ever hope to be. He is, seriously, there are no words for what he is.

whataboutthemoonz
9 years ago

Someone should tell him he’s throwing a shit fit over a dead girl. I can’t imagine a human being so… what, desperate for attention?… that they’d pull this shit.

aworldanonymous
9 years ago

I’d have to argue that TAA is probably the single biggest douchebag who I’ve had the displeasure of actually following for a while of my life.

Leum
Leum
9 years ago

What’s going to be really annoying is how people will make this an excuse to finger-wag about the evils of sexting, sex, and the internet instead of bullying.

cloudiah
9 years ago

If you’re already upset/disturbed/angry, do NOT make the mistake of reading his followup posts on tumblr. I don’t think a million kitten videos can make that better.

I hope he steps on a LEGO while barefoot every hour of every day for the rest of his life.

popcornculturejunkie
popcornculturejunkie
9 years ago

All I can say is, fuck the amazing atheist (he isn’t worthy of being capitalized). I’m an atheist, and that fuck is an embarrassment to the rest of us.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

@cloudiah
Too late :/

I almost pity him in a way, he clearly views the world as a terrible place. In this followup post he says:

What are you going to do? End human cruelty? Are you going to wave a magic wand over the populace to make people less petty, less ignorant and more empathetic? The fact is that the world is full of assholes. And we’re all assholes to someone. You either live with that, or you die because you can’t. There is no third option. Strength or death. Perseverance or failure. That is the world you live in. And nothing you can do is going to change or soften that hard reality.

Which is a very sad view of life, but it’s apparent that he sees himself as one of the “strong” and he doesn’t care about people suffering because they’re “weak”, so I can’t really feel bad for him. It kinda reminds me of nwoslave.

blitzgal
9 years ago

The suspected pedophile threatened that if she didn’t do a show for him, he would circulate her pictures again. Amanda wouldn’t bow to the pressure and he carried out his threat.

A sexual predator manipulated a 12 year old child into flashing him, then stalked her and eventually leaked the video to everyone in her life. And the authorities still don’t know who this guy is. This story on top of the creepshot defenses that I’ve read in the past few days just fill me with rage.

Thank you David for promising to delete any victim blaming trolls in this thread. I just can’t stomach their bile right now.

Margaret
9 years ago

I do wish the discourse around bullying was better, no one (well, aside from lefty/social justice-y blogs) seems to want to talk about the societal structures that lead to this happening. However, this isn’t a legit criticism of that, this is just assholish.

popcornculturejunkie, I agree. I’m a better person as an atheist, but that doesn’t hold true for all of ’em, alas.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

But he’s not strong at all. He’s so insecure that the fact that the media is paying attention to a young girl who died as a result of bullying rather than him has set him off into a flurry of desperate attempts to prove that he’s more worthy than she was. This is not the way that a person who’s secure in their own strength and place in the world behaves. It’s a sign of weakness and insecurity that goes right down to the bone.

whataboutthemoonz
9 years ago

What Cassandra said.

Er… Cassandrasays said?

McKenzie
McKenzie
9 years ago

wow… just
wow

Some people are just something else. I would say that the worst part is how people will say that suicide was the easy way out, or that people will say she deserved it. That’s not true though

the worst thing is that there is a person, decades worth of person who we’ve lost
forever
all because of some loathsome waste of space ruined her life
it’s not a broken phone, you can’t go to the shops and get a new Amanda Todd
we lost something we’re literally never going to have back
ever
there were people who loved her and there were people whose lives she made better
and there were people she’d never met who are crying about her right now because now there’s no chance they ever will
the worst thing is this happened
this actually happened

shit

koinosuke
koinosuke
9 years ago

That man is horrible. To think someone defriended me for pointing what an awful person he is.

Yosei
9 years ago

Repulsive. It’s very sad to see how basic and fundamental some people’s immaturity is.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

TTA is confusing being a callous assbag with strength. I wonder if he’s this much of a knob in person.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

@Sgt. Grumbles
That he shoved anything anywhere is completely irrelevant. He is a person and he deserves more respect than that. I really don’t like defending him but I can’t just pick and choose who deserves protection.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Sgt. Grumbles, I don’t really think what TAA does with produce on his own time is germane, but I am trying to work out the logistics as to how he could do that with his already wedged so firmly up his ass.

Sarah
9 years ago

oh my god, this is just horrible…. awful awful awful, and the police didn’t do anything? they didn’t defend they people who need it most? god, what I would give to hug her and tell her she did nothing wrong and that I love her.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
9 years ago

I don’t understand how people can be so cruel for no reason. The poor girl didn’t even get to grow up. Are law enforcement looking for the guy who stalked her?

Ryan
9 years ago

I’m just utterly amazed by some peoples comments.
I don’t know why I bothered, but I have been reading comments on Google+ & Facebook and am just speechless (even took the time to read some of taa’s responses)
How people can make jokes about this is beyond me.

Did she make mistakes? Sure, but can someone please point out a human who hasn’t? I’d hate to think my past mistakes should stay with me for years to come and be reminded of them daily.

Many are also quite critical of a 12 year old not knowing better when it comes to flashing someone. Not to take away anything from kids that age, but most don’t have an understanding of what can happen.

But what is more troublesome are those on Google+ & Facebook, quite openly with their full names and pictures available for all to see, posting said picture of Amanda. Do these same sickos who say Amanda should have known better, not realize they are distributing child porn?
Someone on Google+ posted a link to a Yahoo Answers question asking where they can find the picture. People were more then willing to provide a link.
I (along with many others I’m sure) reported the page and at least that is down.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

There is no third option.

Yes there is. It is NOT BEING A FUCKING ASSHOLE.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Especially the “there’s video evidence and it was leaked” part. If you approve of potentially embarrassing sexual material being leaked on the internet as a way to hurt/embarrass people who you don’t like, you are supporting a culture in which it’s OK to leak sexual material onto the internet in order to hurt and embarrass people. That culture is a big part of why Amanda Todd killed herself.

Stop for a moment and think about what you’re doing. When you encourage stuff like this, it isn’t just the people who you dislike who get hurt.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
9 years ago

I’m pretty convinced that US culture particularly hates teenage girls. Make the kind of mistakes common to all people but really common with people your age, and one that only hurts yourself? You’re a pariah and deserve everything you get.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
9 years ago

If you’re already upset/disturbed/angry, do NOT make the mistake of reading his followup posts on tumblr. I don’t think a million kitten videos can make that better.

I made the mistake of reading his tumblr blog, too. I don’t even have any words for how depressing it was.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

I made the mistake of looking at his tumblr, and he’s doubling down on his bullshit and calling her “privileged.”

And of course she was privileged. She was a teenage girl living in the western world. If she couldn’t cut it here, I’d hate to see how she would have handled being a teenage girl in Iran.

What a fuckstick.

Anyone got any kitty videos?

Sarah
9 years ago

I think teenage girls hate themselves, because Big Complex Cultural Reasons, and they take it out on each other.

Like, we were encouraged to be really critical of ourselves and others, and other girls doing well made us look bad. And being sexy but not too sexy is particularly evident in high school.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
9 years ago

What are you going to do? End human cruelty? Are you going to wave a magic wand over the populace to make people less petty, less ignorant and more empathetic? The fact is that the world is full of assholes. And we’re all assholes to someone. You either live with that, or you die because you can’t. There is no third option. Strength or death. Perseverance or failure. That is the world you live in. And nothing you can do is going to change or soften that hard reality.

That is pretty much what children are told by many people just like him.
Not that it gets better, no, that it never will be anything but what it is.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

@hellkell
I have slow-motion doggies, does that help?

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