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US Army Brig. General charged with rape. Who’s to blame? According to The Spearhead, it’s women.

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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press  release, among them

forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.

Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards.  In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:

I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.

Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.

A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.

Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.

If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:

[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.

At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.

In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.

Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:

It’s not safe to work or serve with women.

The potential for trouble is way too high.

Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.

Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.

Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:

Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.

Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)

No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.

The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.

Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.

Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:

The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?

A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.

There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.

We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.

Equality: Stupid and Trivial.

I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.

For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:

Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”

Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military

Victims say military condones rape

Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret

New military rape lawsuit filed

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Alex
12 years ago

Sarah Robles. ‘Nuff said.

whataboutthemoonz
12 years ago

This is an elite woman on juice and even so she was still weaker in the upper body than the typical out of shape, American male couch potato.

I’m going to need a citation for the average bench press numbers of an out of shape American couch potato.

cloudiah
12 years ago

WeeBoy, oh hell, I’m so sorry. All the internet hugs if you want ’em.

[cloudiah ignores the racist who is continuing to poop in this thread.]

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
12 years ago

Cloudiah, if it makes you feel any better, I didn’t ninja you because the troll-toy was too stupid to understand what I was saying. Gotta be more blunt and concrete with these ones, I guess.

I wonder what his explanation is for why lynchings essentially stopped, if black people are inferior to white people.

And does gay bashing mean that gay people are inferior to straight ones?

Do wedgies mean that nerds are inferior to jocks?

Inquiring minds want to watch the train wreck know!

MordsithJ
12 years ago

Something PC Police, something something liberals something.

MordsithJ
12 years ago

Well, I screwed that up.

I wonder what his explanation is for why lynchings essentially stopped, if black people are inferior to white people.

Something PC Police, something something liberals something.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@whataboutthemoonz

I’m not American, but I am largely inactive and small physically (36″ chest and 30-32″ waist) but flabby, the classic nerd physique. 70 kg is about 6 kilos less than what I weigh and there’s no way I could lift that.

Crys
Crys
12 years ago

WeeBoy, I’m sorry that happend to you 🙁

Otis the Sweaty
Otis the Sweaty
12 years ago

Otis, as someone who knows, overpowering someone who is assaulting you is actually very hard. You freeze, you get a fear response. You look at someone who you know and theyre doing something horrible to you. You tell them no and they don’t listen and that terrifies you. And you might try to fight them but theyre in a ore powerful position than you and in the back if your head you think you cant punch too hard, because this is someone you like and surely this must be some kind of mistake…

I’m sorry about what happened to you.

My point was that women generally can’t outmuscle men and tragic as your case is, it is not an example of such.

My point was not that men can not be victims of female violence. I’m just pointing out that women constantly have to be on guard for male violence whereas men do not have to fear the same from women. If a girl is walking home late at night and sees a bunch of drunken frat boys walking towards her, she’ll get scared. If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority sluts, he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Given that the IDF with unlimited supplies of American hardware was smashed to pieces by a few hundred part time guerrillas in Lebanon just 6 years back, even the men barely qualify for the title of “soldier”.

Funny, wikpedia says that the IDF suffered 121 casualties to Hezbollah’s 200-1,000 estimated casualties in the 2006 war. “Smashed to pieces”? You certainly have an idiosyncratic interpretation of…well, just about everything, actually.

And yet, you’re so painfully clueless and unoriginal. It’s downright paradoxical.

As for the women, I’m friends with a few ex IDF drones and they told me that the female troops are referred to as “mattresses” by the men.

Sexist statements by men about women: objective evaluations of women’s roles and utility in the military.

She was an elite Olympic athlete who was on steroids, and sprinters do train their upper body.

Sprinters train to run, not lift as much weight as possible. Muscles are not that general-purpose. Not that I expect you to know much about anything at this point.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

My point was not that men can not be victims of female violence. I’m just pointing out that women constantly have to be on guard for male violence whereas men do not have to fear the same from women. If a girl is walking home late at night and sees a bunch of drunken frat boys walking towards her, she’ll get scared. If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority [sisters], he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

And in our liberal lala land here, that’s what we call rape culture!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

This is an elite woman on juice and even so she was still weaker in the upper body than the typical out of shape, American male couch potato.

LOL

Talk about delusions of grandeur. I think we know what Otis’s body-type is now.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, sweetums.

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Otis is a racist troll who used to stalk Pandagon. Amanda banned him several times, but he always came back with a new handle. He’s an out and proud racist, in case that wasn’t obvious.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

My favorite Otis-ism so far is the idea that if male Israeli soldiers refer to their female colleagues in sexist, demeaning terms that proves that Israel is totally PC.

Fitzy
Fitzy
12 years ago

Otis, is there anyone you don’t know? You seem to have friends across the civilian social strata, and acquaintances in two armies, all of whom constantly feed you top-notch information.

You also have an appalling opinion of them all. IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,” “comically weak” women. Wish I had a friend like you!

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
12 years ago

Thanks MordsithJ! I was going to wait up, but you’ve provided me with the answer. Good $timeofday everyone.

WeeBoy
WeeBoy
12 years ago

Thanks everyone. I’m okay now, it doesn’t mean I’m broken, but I pretty much only talk about it when I am anonymous-ish online. Partly because of assholes like Otis.

@whataboutthemoonz
I’m in a training academy for young rugby referees. We train/play 15 hours a week. Of the eight of us, only two can bench press 70kgs. I certainly cant, but thats about 10kgs more than I weigh.

Darkwater
Darkwater
12 years ago

You can screw it up a few times before you get the hang of it; we all have

Thanks! Hopefully this will work.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
12 years ago

@WeeBoy that’s why I hate the term “victim”. Survivor also sounds a bit negative. I know, you’re a strong! 🙂 Best wishes on the training, will you be doing coaching as well as ref’ing?

WeeBoy
WeeBoy
12 years ago

If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority sluts, he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

Depends – are they armed? Is he drunk?

Most rapes aren’t being randomly assaulted on the street. They’re people you know, people you usually like and who often have power of some kind or another over you. Not physical power, but they’re in charge of either you or something which could damage you.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Great, captainbathrobe, we’ve attracted one of those traveling racist trolls. A Pandagon reject no less! Anyone know any magic spells to ward him off?

I suppose we could click on the magic David Head to banish him, but maybe people are enjoying batting him around?

Otis the Sweaty
Otis the Sweaty
12 years ago

Otis, is there anyone you don’t know? You seem to have friends across the civilian social strata, and acquaintances in two armies, all of whom constantly feed you top-notch information.

I do know many people. I have family in France and Australia and in laws from Zimbabwe (although he got out when it was still known as Rhodesia) and Iran. I am friends with Haggai Amir, who is famous for having helped to assassinate former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

Through my maternal cousins I actually have hispanic and black blood relatives, although I refuse to meet them.

You also have an appalling opinion of them all. IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,

First of all, I never said I was friends with any US soldiers. I said I knew/had talked to them.

Second of all, I would never be friends with somebody who was in the IDF. Everybody I know who was in it has left and refuses to do reserve duty.

Crys
Crys
12 years ago

Otis just for you information mens are less likely to feel threatened by women not only for biological reasons but also for cultural reasons. Rape culture exists

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
12 years ago

@Fitzy his opinions are interesting in their negativity. I would be surprised if he could even get accepted into any branch/corps, because I would expect him to fail the psych testing, assuming he got past the physical. Which means that all those ‘IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,” “comically weak” women’ are all measurably better than him. 🙂

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
12 years ago

@ cloudiah,

I would cast a level 9 Ignore spell. That was the only thing that seemed to work, as I recall.

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