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US Army Brig. General charged with rape. Who’s to blame? According to The Spearhead, it’s women.

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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press  release, among them

forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.

Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards.  In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:

I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.

Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.

A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.

Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.

If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:

[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.

At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.

In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.

Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:

It’s not safe to work or serve with women.

The potential for trouble is way too high.

Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.

Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.

Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:

Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.

Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)

No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.

The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.

Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.

Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:

The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?

A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.

There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.

We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.

Equality: Stupid and Trivial.

I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.

For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:

Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”

Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military

Victims say military condones rape

Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret

New military rape lawsuit filed

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Shaenon
12 years ago

So, Otis, your argument is: Men are more likely to commit violent crimes than women, and this is proof that men are superior. That’s kind of… backwards, isn’t it? You can’t even argue it proves that men are superior at being soldiers; a good soldier doesn’t attack his fellow soldiers instead of the enemy.

Heh… It bugs you that your supposed inferiors are so much stronger and braver than you, doesn’t it?

Otis the Sweaty
Otis the Sweaty
12 years ago

And Otis, what if you suddenly found yourself in prison? Would you be so fucking insensitive then?

I know a few guys who’ve been in prison. None of them were big dudes so I’m sure some of them got raped although I never asked them about it. They seem fine so I’m guessing it didn’t cause any long term trauma.

And of course I think rape is a bad thing. I shouldn’t even have to say that. My mom and my sister both had extremely close calls with being raped and probably murdered too. I have female friends who’ve been raped and it messed up their entire lives, even years after.

We have a problem with rape in the military. How do we solve it? I really don’t care. The point I was making was that this debate, like all the “stop men from raping women” threads that we see endlessly on Feminist blogs just gives lie to the whole idea that women are equal to men. If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves? And if you want to blame society, then why aren’t there any civilizations where women dominate and men live in fear of being raped by them?

Your words, not mine, and they are offensive.

The truth tends to be a very offensive thing to some people. American Jews have a tendency towards hysteria, particularly on the subject of Israel. You can try to act offended but I bet you even most American Jews would admit it’s true.

Heidihi
Heidihi
12 years ago

Weeboy I’m so sorry you went through that.

And Darkwater, I’m sorry you were put in fear.

Hugs for you both if you want them.

Crys
Crys
12 years ago

So you don’t realy give a shit, you just wanted to use other people suffering as a opportunity to showcase your misogyny?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

I know a few guys who’ve been in prison. None of them were big dudes so I’m sure some of them got raped although I never asked them about it. They seem fine so I’m guessing it didn’t cause any long term trauma.

And of course I think rape is a bad thing. I shouldn’t even have to say that. My mom and my sister both had extremely close calls with being raped and probably murdered too. I have female friends who’ve been raped and it messed up their entire lives, even years after.

Has it occured to you that you’re an insensitive jackass and that the men you know who may have suffered from sexual assault and resulting trauma would probably not care to share that shit with someone so incredibly dismissive of their reality?

Di you tell your mother and sister and friends that they were sexually assaulted for walking around and being weak?

whataboutthemoonz
12 years ago

There is a huge problem of female troops getting raped in the army.

I like how your response to this is “keep women out of the military” and not “HOLY SHIT OUR MILITARY IS FULL OF RAPISTS WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUUUUUUUCK?!?!?!”

I don’t think women are equal to men. One piece of evidence of this is how much women need to take precautions about being raped by men whereas I guarantee you that practically no men have even had the thought of being raped by a woman cross his mind. I would seriously be more worried about getting struck by lightning than I would about being raped by a woman.

You’re actually completely right about this. The problem is that you attribute this to innate biology, when in reality this is actually the result of cultured socialization.

Alex
12 years ago

“If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?”

Plenty of women defend themselves (ever hear of attempted rape?) and win. Plenty men can’t defend themselves. There are plenty of situations where it doesn’t fucking how well you can physically defend yourself (like sleeping). You’re a willful idiot.

“The truth tends to be a very offensive thing to some people. American Jews have a tendency towards hysteria, particularly on the subject of Israel. You can try to act offended but I bet you even most American Jews would admit it’s true.”

Many American Jews have a bias in favour of Israel, I’ll give you that because it’s true, but “a tendency toward hysteria”? Fuck off!

Shaenon
12 years ago

As for whether or not women serve in the Army, I don’t really care as long as it is acknowledged that they are not performing an equal role and are there mainly to provide some PC window dressing.

Oh sweet lord, his concept of women in the military comes entirely from “girls with guns” pinup calendars in auto body shops. Next he’ll tell us that women should be barred from driving because all they ever do is sit on the hoods of cars in bikinis.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

We have a problem with rape in the military. How do we solve it? I really don’t care.

Well, at least you’re being honest.

If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?

Are you really this stupid? Let me ask you this: do you deserve fewer rights and opportunities than the men who are physically stronger than you?

whataboutthemoonz
12 years ago

If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?

If someone decides to rape a woman, she will probably not be able to defend herself.

If someone decides to rape a man, he will probably not be able to defend himself.

See? Equality. Try again.

Shiraz
Shiraz
12 years ago

“We have a problem with rape in the military. How do we solve it? I really don’t care. The point I was making was that this debate, like all the “stop men from raping women” threads that we see endlessly on Feminist blogs just gives lie to the whole idea that women are equal to men. If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?”

OK, you’re just an asshole.

And this:

“I know a few guys who’ve been in prison. None of them were big dudes so I’m sure some of them got raped although I never asked them about it. They seem fine so I’m guessing it didn’t cause any long term trauma.”

Wow. Wow. And also…wow.

And then:

“The truth tends to be a very offensive thing to some people. American Jews have a tendency towards hysteria…”

Really now? Whoa mamma.

OK, I’m giving myself permission not to pay any attention to your posts now.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
12 years ago

If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?

Man, you’da been a hoot in the era of lynchings.

*wanders off to find a bucket to vomit in and liquor, in that order*

Karalora
Karalora
12 years ago

If women are equal, why can’t they defend themselves?

So what you’re saying is, it’s not that men don’t get targeted by rapists anywhere near as frequently as women do, it’s that they are able to fend off the assault? Is that your contention?

Anyone have any sources on reports of attempted rape, broken down by the gender of the victim?

cloudiah
12 years ago

If black people are equal to white people, why can’t they magically erase racism?

cloudiah
12 years ago

And… Ninja’d by Nepenthe. Shoulda hit refresh.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Because Israel is even more of a PC shit hole than the US is.

Whoa, fuck. Now Israel is PC, of all places. Try telling that to the Palestinians who are constantly having their lands encroached upon and their communities starved of goods, services, and utilities.

Haven’t you ever seen those pictures of Israeli girls in uniform walking around with guns looking totally clueless? It’s a huge part of the faux egiltarianism the country tries to project.

How does one look clueless? Is there something in the eyes? How much do you know about their knowledge of their weapons or hand-to-hand combat based on a still photo?

Lemme guess: it’s because they’re pretty.

There is a reason that Israel posts their female troops on the border with Egypt: because until last week there was never any fighting there.

Yeah, a totally peaceful border, except for the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War. I’m sure Israel figured nothing would ever come up between Israel and Egypt ever again. Yep.

If you are too weak to defend yourself, then yes. If women are equal to men why can’t they defend themselves from getting raped?

Wow, it’s very fascinating how this works. Sexism, rape culture, and toxic masculinity encourage male aggression and sexual violence, whilst women are trained to be socially conceding by punishing them when they are too assertive of their boundaries. Then, when they are surprise-attacked—pretty much by definition—and raped by their fellow soldiers in the military, it’s evidence that they aren’t as good at being soldiers because they didn’t turn into fucking super-heroes who can instantly smash anyone bent on attacking them in any situation. Ergo women are weaker and are not fit to do the same things men do.

BUT HEY, PATRIARCHY IS LIKE JUST A CRAZY FEMINIST CONSPIRACY CUZ LIKE STUFF

Otis the Sweaty
Otis the Sweaty
12 years ago

If someone decides to rape a man

That “someone” would almost certainly be a man. A typical woman would be physically incapable of overpowering and raping a typical man.

Yes there are exceptions. There are men who are sick, or disabled or extremely frail and their are women who have exceptional size and strength. But I’m pretty sure if you took the smallest, weakest guy in my graduating high school class he would have been able to overpower and rape at least 50% of the 200 or so girls in the class. Take somebody like me who is still well below average in terms of size and strength and I could probably rape every one of them if I wanted to.

Former olympic sprinter Jackie Joyner Kersey, who was not just a world class athlete but was juiced to the gills, could only bench press 155lbs. That is how weak women are, an ELITE female athlete could only bench what a typical 9th grade football player does.

Women are comically weak compared to men.

whataboutthemoonz
12 years ago

You are comically stupid compared to some posters here, but we’re still humoring you.

You know rape isn’t just a man physically overpowering a woman, right? This may be new information for you, but there are multiple complex factors that go into an assault. They’re calculated. Maliciously. On purpose.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Well, if nothing else it’s nice to see that Otis is able to distill the basic misogynist ethos into such a simple and direct form.

“If men do something bad to women, that means that women are worthless.”

He’s certainly a perfect illustration of a particular mindset.

Alex
12 years ago

Here’s a scenario for you that involves neither frailty on the man’s part, nor strength on the woman’s part: woman and man have consensual sex, man gets tired and tries to pull way, but woman wraps her legs around him to keep him from doing so. Sure, you could argue that he could just use his hands to get her legs off him, but it wouldn’t change the fact that he would be raped for however long it would take him to get her off him.

Darkwater
Darkwater
12 years ago

N00b question: how do I get blockquotes to work here?

Alex
12 years ago

I probably should have posted a trigger warning on that. My apologies.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

You take me for some kind of backwoods rube? No, sorry I didn’t sign up to get shot at by 3rd worlder’s and ocean away.

Ahahahaha, omg, some guy who looks down on the entire military as backwoods rubes has the temerity to decide that actual soldiers he sees pictures of look clueless.

You really can’t make this bullshit up. I wish Pecunium were here to tell you about all the highly-competent women soldiers he’s known, but then again you would probably just dismiss him as a PC mangina or something because you’re JUST SO HOOKED INTO REALITY.

Rahu
Rahu
12 years ago

Freitag235:

For the record, NAMALT.

Freitag235 – Thank you. Thank you so much. It’s something that I know already, yes, but it’s so good to hear again, from someone who gets it.

Karalora
Karalora
12 years ago

@Darkwater

HTML brackets and the word “blockquote.”

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