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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press release, among them
forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.
Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards. In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:
I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.
Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.
A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.
Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.
If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:
[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.
At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.
In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.
Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:
It’s not safe to work or serve with women.
The potential for trouble is way too high.
Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.
Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.
Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:
Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.
Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)
No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.
The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.
Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.
Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:
The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?
A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.
There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.
We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.
Equality: Stupid and Trivial.
I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.
For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:
Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”
Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Victims say military condones rape
Lauralot, I think you’ve earned a place on my (parasitic) blog with that one.
Why are so many people here so funny?
When you’re a fat, bitter, ugly, socially corrosive feminist, your sense of humor is all you have left…
… well, your sense of humor and your ten-score strong Unholy Army of Cats.
I would like to offer a heartfelt slowclap for Pecunium (for a thoroughly engaging takedown of Captain Pullup) and Lauralot (for the sporfle-inducing screenplay adaptation). Now I just wish it was coming to theatres.
Yes I was referring to chin ups, not pull ups.
And yes, I do it to a dead hang. I see plenty of guys at the gym who go down like 1/2 or 3/4 of the way so I know what partial chin ups/pull ups/whatever their called.
As for whether I can do 5, I am 100% sure I can do five in a row getting my chin above the bar. Not sure how many I could do if I wasn’t timed, but probably an extra 3.
Because if you don’t, you aren’t any more, “innately” superior
It is not about me. Men as a group are innately superior to women. There is more in group than out group variation so you have many women who are superior to many men (although this is rare in terms of upper body strength because the difference between men and women is so massive in that regard)
Because the passing standard for them is 3
First of all, some marines are huge guys who even after basic training are well over 220 lbs. Doing three at such a high weight is different than doing it at a more normal weight. Second of all, most marines can easily pass the pullup portion of the test. The hard part of the test is the running which I certainly would be unable to do.
Tell you what, you describe to me the requirements for a push-up to standard Then we’ll see if you understand just what those words mean
I’ve seen plenty of basic training documentary’s so i know what a military push up looks like. There is no way a non obese man can’t do one.
I believe that the professional dancers I work with would mop the floor with you and you don’t believe it, and neither of us is going to change the other’s mind
Yeah well you could at least bring up some evidence to back up your assertion. If your friends weigh over 140 and can do 10 or more pull ups in a row then maybe they could beat me up (though I doubt it). If they can bench over 200, I have no problem with admitting that they probably could kick my ass. But if your friends are that big and strong than they are total freaks and are not representative of over 99% of all women.
Yes, you did. You said you believed in both informal, and formal, discrimination.
No I didn’t. I said I wanted informal discrimination like there is in Russia, not formal discrimination like there is in Saudi Arabia.
If I had to take responsibility for Christina Hoff-Summer
I don’t like Hoff Summers but she’s no feminist. Well not anymore so than any other anglo woman.
Feministing and Jezebel are THE sites for young feminists. You are absolutely responsible for what gets said on those sites.
Assume you’re trying to land a kick on someone in unarmed combat.
I’m a man so I would never throw a kick
Just looked up Jessica Coen. She’s kinda hot. I was expecting her to be ugly.
So I guess there are 2 attractive Feminists out of all the girls who post on Feministing, Jezebel, Feministe and Pandagon. Despite this, they all regard themselves as beautiful.
No group in human history is more delusional about their looks than Feminist women. Amanda Marcotte once said that she was attractive. Amanda Marcotte!
Once again Otis addresses only the point that is completely unimportant to the discussion. I am done talking about physical fitness. Let’s fucking talk about feelings.
Otis.
Are you attracted to women? Have you ever loved a human being? Do you like your mother?
Do you relate to or communicate with any women in any way at all? Does it make you happy? Do you want to?
Are you happy with your life?
First of all, none of these questions are any of your business but I’ll answer anyway.
Are you attracted to women?
oh yes. Very much so. Particularly hispanic and indian (dot, not feathers) women. And yes, I know how ironic that is.
Have you ever loved a human being?
As in “in love”? No.
Do you like your mother?
Of course I love my mother. What the fuck kindof sick question is that?
Do you relate to or communicate with any women in any way at all? Does it make you happy? Do you want to?
I get along much better with women then I do with men.
Watching something on TV makes you an expert, yes? Wow, the implications for this boggle the mind.
Ok, so it seems like you do have some positive feelings toward women. Do you feel any cognitive dissonance between your positive relationship with women and your deeply misogynistic worldview and beliefs?
Were these opinions modeled for you when you were little, or did you come by them through life experience?
Do you feel any cognitive dissonance between your positive relationship with women and your deeply misogynistic worldview and beliefs?
I never mix the personal and the political.
Except with hispanics. I hate all hispanics.
Lauralot, did you want your Internet shipped flat-packed or already assembled? Cause that screenplay was *amazing*
/fangirl
Huh. Do you just not talk to the women you know about this stuff? Do any of ’em know that you run a really hateful blog and not really care, or are they unaware?
Inurashii, I think we’ve reached the point where if one of us said we liked breathing oxygen, Otis would start ranting about how he’s all about the manly carbon monoxide, and women breathing oxygen and dying from carbon monoxide just proves how weak they are, just to be contrary. He’s even contrary with himself.
Welp. It was just a matter of time before racism came into this.
I’m just really intrigued how somebody so hateful and regressive interacts with the outside world, curious about how he came by his opinions, and confused about why he’s here talking to the absolute least likely audience to think he has a point.
Do any of ‘em know that you run a really hateful blog and not really care, or are they unaware?
I don’t run a hateful blog. I hadn’t looked at that place in years until somebody here brought it up. My brothers fiance thought the blog was pretty funny.
All the women in my life know about my views towards women and disagree with them.
Well of course not, cuz then they might, y’know, kick his ass or something.
Ok. For real though, were there, like, any incidents where feminism like really personally affected and upset you, or was it just the pervasive spread of a culture you don’t agree with that eventually got you to the point where you just needed to show those pitchers what’s what?
curious about how he came by his opinions
From reading Pandagon, Feministing and Jezebel and from having the “grrl power!” message shoved down my throat by the media non stop.
confused about why he’s here talking to the absolute least likely audience to think he has a point.
Because they won’t let me post at Pandagon, Feministing and Jezebel.
@katz, OtS admitted pretty early on to being totally racist, actually.
Feministing and Jezebel are THE sites for young feminists. You are absolutely responsible for what gets said on those sites.
And Stormfront is THE site for racist fuckwads of all stripes. Just sayin’.
Welp. All right.
Curiosity sated for now, I guess.
[cloudiah looks up, realizes this has become a 600+ comment thread, and decides to save people a ton of reading.]
Here is where OtS first admitted to being a total racist.
Okay, so who’s vagina is standing over sweaty forcing him to type his blather to us?
Shorter sweaty:Feminists MADE ME TROLL
Seriously dude, when you get kicked out of a bar for being obnoxious do you look through the telephone book for some other bar owner and show up at his house to be obnoxious?
Of course I love my mother. What the fuck kindof sick question is that?
Oh, so now he thinks he’s Tony Soprano…only not as smart and certainly not as scary.