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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press release, among them
forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.
Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards. In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:
I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.
Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.
A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.
Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.
If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:
[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.
At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.
In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.
Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:
It’s not safe to work or serve with women.
The potential for trouble is way too high.
Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.
Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.
Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:
Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.
Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)
No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.
The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.
Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.
Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:
The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?
A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.
There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.
We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.
Equality: Stupid and Trivial.
I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.
For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:
Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”
Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Victims say military condones rape
Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret
New military rape lawsuit filed
Sometime lurker but just can’t resist – “breast pumping station” WTF?
Makes me laugh.
Is it sad that I’m waiting for Steele to show up and brighten my afternoon with some Vile Disgusting Vile lulz?
nah. I’m also waiting about for happy trolols. Bah to being in England and missing most of the implosions.
I’m curious: what term do they use if the accused is a woman? “An officer and a lady”? “An officer and a gentlewoman?”
It’s just amazing the lengths that these idiots will go to maintain their delusions, like the guy who left the comment above, despite widely reported fact that women are earning medals for valor, even though they’re not supposed to be anywhere near combat…
@Tulgey, I just popped over to read the Angry Harry piece. Kinda wish I hadn’t.
Really, all men are NOT like that.
Being male does NOT automatically make one a loony rapist in the presence of women. Turned on, yes, sometimes, but needing to rape? No. This is the ultimate in misandry. Women are great, desirable, sure. But self-control is just Not That Big A Deal. Look but don’t touch. Really, how hard is that?
Numnut certainly seems to have chosen an apt user name.
My oldest son was in our recent wars, in a mixed sex unit (because it was intel with computers, not infantry) and they were in a camp whose name you would recognize, analyzing screens after an invasion had been launched. Suddenly they became aware of a sound my son says he’ll never forget as long as he lives. It was a missle headed for their camp, and it landed close enough to buckle the tent walls and knock the breath out of him. Their commanding officer in the tent pointed out that this was a war, and the enemy was shooting at them, duh, and they all commenced an orderly evacuation to a more secure place. Men and women behaving in the exact same manner.
despite widely reported fact that women are earning medals for valor, even though they’re not supposed to be anywhere near combat…
Lol, those medals are handed out by the PC police who run the army. Everybody who has served in either Iraq or Afghanistan can tell you plenty of stories of how useless female soldiers are. They can’t even protect themselves from getting raped by guys in their own unit, let alone face an armed enemy.
Just last week there was a situation on the Egyptian/Israeli border where one of those supposedly tough female soldiers immediately ran and hid once a firefight broke out, causing a (male, ofcourse) soldier to get killed.
Following this logic, there’d actually be *more* rape than is already happening. Because men can’t be expected not to get ‘sexually aroused’ and when they are so ‘these things happen’, they really normalize rape and rapists and try to make it seem like this is all guys. But, it isn’t. Regardless of what statistic one uses, most men, regardless of circumstances, are not raping anyone.
I’ve noticed this seems to come up a lot. ‘Well, men can’t be expected to control themselves around scantily clad women!’ But, most *do*. This is objectively true–if MRAs had it right, it would be totally impossible for a woman to ever work as a stripper, or even dress in a cleavage-showing outfit at the bar, without every guy at the club attacking her.
MRAs complain about how the numbers given for sexual assault/harassment are too high. But they also seem to think that women’s behaviour *drives* men to assault and harass them. So why is it most guys seem to be totally able to handle women doing such awful things as wearing a cute outfit, drinking alcohol, working in the military and so on, without being driven into a mad rage?
Not to mention that some countries with extremely strict dress codes for women suffer an elevated incidence of rape and sexual assault. It ain’t the clothes. It’s the men.
And not all men are slobbering animals like the MRM would have you believe. A majority are not. A majority of men are human beings who behave accordingly. The MRM is the most misandrist segment of the population when they claim that men “just can’t help it.”
No. Stay out of the gay bars MRA’s. We don’t want you. We don’t sit around bitching about women and their terrible lust inducing vajay-jays. We are too busy trying to hook up with one another. Not to mention if you hassle any of the amazing butch lesbians at the bar, there are plenty of people who will end you.
@twomoogles
Plus, the actual rapists don’t just start raping out in the open. They do it in private, they find ways to get their target alone, they ply them with alcohol, etc. This is not a lack of control, this is deliberate and calculated.
@Nathan
Let’s not compare MRAs to the mentally ill please? For one thing, douchebaggery can’t just be explained away with mental illness, and for another, I really wouldn’t want MRAs to be in the same as people who already have serious psychological issues. They don’t need MRA bullshit.
@Alex, the MRAs appear to have some pathological addictive-type elements to their personalties. Example 1: the inability to stay away from public and anonymous female / “mangina” blaming, where they actively seek out and receive approval from their normative group, has elements of addiction. Example 2: the complete refusal to take any responsibility for their behaviour, or to acknowledge that their behaviour is hurtful, which means they won’t change. There has been some debate in the past about whether addiction falls within mental illness, and I’m not up-to-date with that.
They may, they may not, but there are plenty of people with pathologically addictive personalities who manage not to be douchebags. Unless hatred is a form of mental illness itself, I still think MRAs don’t belong in a place where there are vulnerable people who need help.
@Alex fair point. And even if MRAs have addictive personalities, that does not mean it excuses their behaviour. I realise now that my post could have been read that way, which I did not mean.
Hahahahaha, this is amazing. Please, tell us more about the how largest force for imperialism in the world is run by “PC police!”
I can only speak from personal, non-scientific experience here, but… before I was diagnosed and prescribed medication, I frequently acted like a total douchebag, engaged in addictive behavior, and was active in a community that may or may not have been considered a hate group at the time. Even now I’m still shaking off these behaviors, though for the most part they’re under control.
As far as MRA’s go, I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few of them could benefit from treatment. Just my opinion.
@Kiwi Girl,
No worries. I know you didn’t mean to be ableist or anything; I just like that most comments comparing awful people to those most vulnerable are usually called out, and wanted to do my part. I’m sure Nathan meant no harm, but there have been a few – Diane is one I can think of – who had some pretty awful ideas of how to treat the mentally ill. And, of course, some of us have been, or are currently, affected by some form of mental illness or other, firsthand or secondhand.
As there are mentally ill people within any group, I’m sure there are mentally ill MRAs. But unless they’re diagnosed with something that warrants their being institutionalized, I don’t think the “padded cells and straight jackets” comment is appropriate. Look at it this way: I would not want to meet an MRA in person as I would fear for my safety. Likewise, I wouldn’t want to inflict them on anyone, especially not on people who are at their most vulnerable.
@Alex, that’s cool, I respect your opinion. 🙂 I also have respect for people with mental illness/disability. I have no respect for MRAs, who should know better. If I was a Freudian, I would be tempted to say they’re stuck at the id stage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego which is really not attractive in adults.
@Freitag, where does the Angry Harry piece say that? I stopped reading around the part where he says that human women are turned on by abuse and love to appease aggressive men cuz chimps and soap operas. I mean, it’s hilarious enough that he doesn’t understand the whole Estrus thing, but when he says that women “copulate” in their imaginations with the moist lips and voice of Oprah, I wonder how his computer did not explode from how absurd that is.
AFAIK, they still use the term “An officer and a gentleman” even if the accused is a woman. The term “gentleman” is considered to be a standard of behaviour rather than a gender descriptor.
I remember watching a video about the id, ego, and super-ego in high school. The same actor played all three, but when he was the id, he was shown in red lighting, crouching, and the super-ego was dressed in white. Whenever the ego (the guy in general) would want to do something, the super ego would say, “Honour thy father/mother!” and the id would say “I want! I want!” while hopping around (this is how I will now imagine MRAs when reading their rants). It was a bizarre video, which also featured an actor playing Freud himself, talking about dream analysis. After one of his, er, interpretations, one of the boys in my class shouted out, “Did he just say he had erotic desire for his mother?!?” It was amusing to say the least.