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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press release, among them
forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.
Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards. In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:
I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.
Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.
A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.
Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.
If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:
[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.
At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.
In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.
Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:
It’s not safe to work or serve with women.
The potential for trouble is way too high.
Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.
Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.
Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:
Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.
Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)
No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.
The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.
Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.
Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:
The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?
A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.
There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.
We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.
Equality: Stupid and Trivial.
I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.
For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:
Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”
Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Victims say military condones rape
Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret
New military rape lawsuit filed
ooh, “we hunted the mammoth”! Can I get a bingo?
It is seriously pretty hilarious that anyone believes, in the face of all anthropological evidence, that social organization for most of human history was anything but “everyone hunts in hunting season, everyone fishes in fishing season, and everyone gathers in gathering season.”
Gays are assaulted because they are outnumbered by a huge margin by normal people.
There are no government committees to protect the status of nerds. Nerds are only victimized in middle school and then everybody grows up. Women need to be protected by male predators for their entire lives and the only people who can protect them are other men.
You’d think nary a woman would even HAVE to be beaten or threatened, she’d just happily comply
There is no government laws oppressing women in America, and yet men still dominate all levels of business and government. Patriarchy absolutely does not need gov coercion, it arises naturally everywhere there is humans because women aren’t strong enough to protect themselves from men.
It doesn’t even have to be Muslim, per se.
Oh that’s convenient. It doesn’t have to be Muslim, it just happens to be. Your racism sickens me.
Also, seriously, what is with MRAs coming over here to try to catch people up on ableism or racism?
Pro tip: when you’re a member of a hate movement, you don’t have the authority to call people out on social justice issues.
Also maybe because people think of them as not “normal”?
“Child abuse is okay because it only happens to children.” Most. Bulletproof. Argument. Ever.
Haha how about laws prohibiting women in combat roles?
Also, for real, have you watched the news in the last two years? At all?
If racism actually sickened you, you wouldn’t be a white supremacist. I know you’re being all clever and thinking you’re winning some rhetorical game, but we all know you’re a hateful asshole, so why not just be honest about it?
Everything about this sentence is ridiculous. Everything.
The assumption that women are not inventors or innovators, the complete disregard of the ways in which women have always — ALWAYS — done their part to uphold society, and the entitled notion that you personally deserve any gratitude for doing dick-all for women when you’ve demonstrated little capability of doing so.
Also, you’re basically trying to derail the fact that the statement was addressing a totally difficult point that you don’t seem to have retained the wherewithal to defend.
But then, derailing is all you have, isn’t it?
Aw, I missed Otis making a fool of himself for hours last night! And it was my comment about women earning medals for valor that set him off, too. At least I got here in time to see him start accusing “racism”… pretty rich from a guy who said that he “doesn’t accept that blacks are as intelligent as whites.” Racist, misogynist, and apparently hopelessly confused–this guy is the whole package!
Stumbled over words there, but any of you who were going to understand my point in the first place likely got it.
Yeah, ladies, why aren’t you expressing your unending devotion to MIGHTY OTIS, who apparently single-handedly sustained civilization for five thousand years before graciously inventing modern computing so your weak little lady-arms could do something useful?
Seriously, bro, when you don’t know shit about history, it is really not advisable to mouth off about history.
It’s derailing. That’s all any of it is.
They have no actual arguments of substance to support their hateful opinions, so their only viable tactic is to try to control the conversation.
Trying to derail the conversation by insisting that words mean only what THEY want them to mean, no less.
You do realize that the reason men are heavily overrepresented in business and politics isn’t because they can beat up women, right? Like, you keep trying to act like the average man’s ability to overpower an average woman is indicative that men are totes better in every way, but it’s not like you have to wrestle your opponent to the ground to win a political race.
Well otis maybe you can explain to us how women are supposed to know which men are rapists, seeing as most rapists are people we are dating or know. Oh wait, we’re all supposed to sit at home crocheting doilies while daddy goes to work right? That how many white supremacists think right?
Otis the Shitty has the stones to call people here racist? How very.
women have always — ALWAYS — done their part to uphold society
Besides functioning as glorified birth machines women have done nothing to uphold society. Didn’t build the housing, hunt the food, develop the technology or fight the wars. I guess they helped with some of the farm work but no more so then the animals that men domesticated. So aside from children women have historically had done about as much for society as mules have. Probably less, actually.
I always laugh when I hear guys say things like, “If women ran the world, we’d still be churning butter”. Women would never have developed the technology to churn butter.
Haha how about laws prohibiting women in combat roles?
So women not being allowed in combat is why Microsoft and Apple were founded by men instead of women? Once women are allowed in combat roles will we finally see corporate giants founded and run by women?
Why does it matter that gays are outnumbered? I mean, the bashing tends to be pretty individual.
Also, what about lynching? I asked that last night too.
You do realize that the reason men are heavily overrepresented in business and politics isn’t because they can beat up women, right?
Men are mentally superior to women as well. They have a 3-5 point IQ advantage. They also have 7 times the testosterone (which makes them more aggressive and thus helps in the business world).
I only bring up men’s physical superiority because the disparity is so stark and so obvious that most people outside of the libtard blogsphere don’t even bother to deny it, despite giving lip service to the idea that men and women are equal.
@Otis
Women hunted and continue to hunt in all known hunter-gatherer societies.
Also, I love the amount of history knowledge you claim to have here. You know there are dozens of models for the domestication of animals, right? None of which even hazard a guess as to any gender roles might have contributed to this. Yet you, of all people, have somehow found out the whole truth of domestication! Quick man! Publish! Publish! Before you get scooped!
Nope, it is just one discrimatory government policy. There are also lots of discriminatory corporate policies. Remember the Walmart lawsuit?
I don’t know what planet you’re living on, but women already found and run corporate giants. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2011/womenceos/
It does seem odd that someone who, as he said, is relatively weak, would use physical strength as the be-all and end-all of determining worth. Unless his purpose is to make himself feel better about not being able to compete physically with other men by making all men the same, and all women the same, so he can be strong by proxy.
That’s exactly what it is. Notice how many times he flies into a snit-fit in response to evidence that women can be strong, brave, and tough. See, he’s not so weak if half the human population is even weaker. Other people’s weakness makes him strong!
And if it becomes too obvious that women aren’t weak, and black people aren’t stupid, and so on…well, that just spoils everything for your average supremacist, doesn’t it?
“Women have served all these centuries as looking-glasses possessing the magic and delicious power of reflecting the figure of man at twice its natural size.”
Otis said:
[Citation needed, fool]
Also, what about lynching? I asked that last night too.
First of all, blacks ARE inferior to whites, so that’s a stupid example. Second of all, blacks were totally disenfranchized in the American South so it was possible for whites to victimize them en masse.
Lynchings stopped because well meaning white people put a stop to them. Blacks certainly didn’t finally figure out how to effectively defend themselves after a couple of hundred years of persecution.
HEY OTIS, when I said:
“Uh….so why does Otis seem to think that the fact that the more educated and advanced human society gets, the more our intelligent and enlightened human members of society try to build an egalitarian society where everyone is treated with basic decency, rights to bodily autonomy, and various social programs in place to protect, serve and support everyone from the most vulnerable to the most privileged…that this is all bad?”
I was not mentioning Western society specifically. And even if I was, “Western” is not a race- there are people of all creeds, skin pigmentations, gender continuums and appearances who live in first world nations. To imagine that “western= white” is racist in and of itself, so that says far more about YOUR assumptions than my assertions.
There are many second and third world nations taking great steps towards more enlightened and egalitarian social order. These things are not directly proportionate to the number of monotheistic rich heterosexual white men who bitch about their “burdan” of “civilizing” (ie: enslaving and taking advantage of) the rest of us.
Heh. Let’s see your citations for those numbers there Sparky. And what’s your IQ, by the way?
Yep, that Civil Rights Movement, all well meaning White people. White people turning fire hoses on White people. That’s what really struck me about it, how the Black people just sat back and let the White people run the movement.
I was going to mock Otis, but all I really want is a good-faith dissenter.
Otis, if you’re not going to have an honest discussion, please just go away.