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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press release, among them
forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.
Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards. In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:
I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.
Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.
A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.
Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.
If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:
[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.
At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.
In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.
Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:
It’s not safe to work or serve with women.
The potential for trouble is way too high.
Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.
Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.
Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:
Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.
Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)
No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.
The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.
Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.
Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:
The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?
A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.
There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.
We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.
Equality: Stupid and Trivial.
I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.
For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:
Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”
Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Victims say military condones rape
Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret
New military rape lawsuit filed
@Dvärghundspossen
That reminds me of Jeff Weise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Weise#Political_views
Weirdness knows no racial barriers, that’s for sure.
@scarlettpipistrelle, Thanks to your son for his service!
Yes, all sorts of skills are needed. It’s ridiculous, in this era of technology, to think only brute strength should be valued. Do you have to bench 300lbs to operate software? To drive a remote-controlled robot? To direct air traffic? To keep personnel files? :rollseyes:
Wish I’d been around for Otis..
So Otis, what about the Muslim woman who kicked the shit out of a cleric, sending him to hospital for three days. He seemed quite unable to overpower her AND had she wished to, she could have kicked him to death.
Don’t mistake the leeser upper body strength of women in general as weakness. Our lower body strength can more than make up for it should we wish.
Oh MRA troll logic. So in most situations, women aren’t really being raped–they’re exaggerating the numbers for attention, or calling ‘sex they regret’ rape..in short, the numbers of rape are actually really low! Except for the military. In the military, nearly every woman gets raped! They pretty much can’t walk down the hallway without some guy trying (and succeeding always because women are weak!) to rape them.
So men are either totally innocent guys who wouldn’t hurt anyone, or slavering beasts, depending on whether the point of the day is ‘women are crazy liars’ or ‘women shouldn’t be in the military’.
Don’t mistake the leeser upper body strength of women in general as weakness. Our lower body strength can more than make up for it should we wish.
Which is why men are routinely beaten up by women and all countries and cultures have a huge problem with wives beating their husbands and men go through their lives in fear of being raped by women. In fact, the problem is so severe that governments have to make special laws for the protection of men from rampant female violence.
So Otis, what about the Muslim woman who kicked the shit out of a cleric, sending him to hospital for three days.
We can be sure that that isn’t an exceptional case because Muslim women are known for dominating Islamic men.
Otis sarcastically addressed two of the dozens of points made against him with pointless, derailing bullshit!
Everybody go home, he won the argument.
@Military discussion- one of my uncles was one of the founding programmers involved in developing the Darpanet (not sure about the spelling)- the precursor to the Internet. He’s a big guy, doesn’t look at all like the kind of guy who would be in the military. My other uncle was a radio operator in Vietnam and he singlehandedly saved his platoon from being blown up because he was fucking good at his job- he didn’t have to be the “gun guy” to be valuable. My cousin on my mom’s side of the family has done tours of Kuwait, Iraq and Kosovo. He’s now finally hit sergeant rank and has done intense training in learning several other languages, hoping to do interpreter work for his country, even though he’s got the kind of body type/shape that would make you think he’s a “gunz-a-blazin” sort of guy.
I think it’s bullshit to use the military (especially the infantry) to justify this ridiculous weird idea that military is basically GI Joe running around punching Nazis in the face.
I blame video games like Metal Gear and Metal Slug teaching people that the military is all about running in with guns and rambo man chest muscles heaving with sweat. First person shooters and decades of movies that portray the military this way really aren’t helping this perception by people who aren’t acquainted with what the military does, either.
*shrug* There’s a big difference between being part of military stuff and being one of those obnoxious people who buys shit from the army surplus store and runs around with a hunting rifle shouting “MURICA!”
Mmmmmyeah, Otis don’t know shit. Should I even bother refuting his absurd claims?
I won’t touch the rape discussion, because it has never happened to me and I am not qualified to opine on it in any way.
But the Muslim women comment, uh huh. Muslim women are just *naturally* submissive, you guys! It couldn’t be the fact that there’s systemic, brutal punishments in place for any Muslim woman who steps out of line, oh no! It’s just that Muslim women are naturally dominated by Muslim men, you see.
See, I can be sarcastic, too.
In all seriousness, though, that woman faces severe life threatening punishment if she is found.
:D:D:D You made my day with this comment!
@Tosca-
That reminds me of some really awesome Wonderwoman comics over at Hark! A Vagrant!
“I don’t hate men. I hate EVERYONE.”
http://www.harkavagrant.com/nonsense/wonderwoman328.png
“Straight up Nazi fightin’.”
http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=275
But the Muslim women comment, uh huh. Muslim women are just *naturally* submissive, you guys! It couldn’t be the fact that there’s systemic, brutal punishments in place for any Muslim woman who steps out of line, oh no! It’s just that Muslim women are naturally dominated by Muslim men, you see.
First of all, your comment is racist.
Second of all, where are all of the civilizations where women oppress men? Women are just as strong and intelligent as men, so why are there no cultures where they oppress men the same way men oppress women in, I don’t know… every fucking known society that has ever existed?
Ahahaha! In a country where women can’t even show their eyes in public for fear of rape and the lash Otis wants to talk about how muslim women dominate men!!! Ahahahaha! You know, if that were the case, I have a feeling the women might like to dress in a way that let’s them at least see the world. And what is it about Muslim women in particular that makes them so dominating you white knighting white supremacist? Do you have any idea the number of men I’ve come across that couldn’t lift and carry what I do? And I’m just five feet tall.
In a country where women can’t even show their eyes in public for fear of rape and the lash
Iran is not Afghanistan. Your comment indicates that you think all Muslim countries are the same. That’s racist.
Why hasn’t the troll answered my questions about lynching and gay bashing and wedgies!? I wanna knoooooow!
*stamps feet, sending snake into a tizzy* *apologizes to snake* *realizes she is talking to a deaf reptile*
Uh oh, otis hast been doing his misandry homework. Otis, plenty of men are getting the shit beat out of them by their wives and girlfriends. But because of people like you, they have a hard time being taken seriously enough to be given the help they need.
I know four guys in my building who’ve had abusive wives and girlfriends.
Where, exactly, is the racism? This appears to be sarcasm, mocking your assumption that women don’t fight back simply because they are weak and inferior.
So, please…what about this is racist?
I’m being called racist by a white supremacist. That’s rich!
And yes, she was being told by the cleric, who has the authority of law on her side, to cover her eyes, my dear.
Sorry, that should be “the authority of law on HIS side..”
Uh….so why does Otis seem to think that the fact that the more educated and advanced human society gets, the more our intelligent and enlightened human members of society try to build an egalitarian society where everyone is treated with basic decency, rights to bodily autonomy, and various social programs in place to protect, serve and support everyone from the most vulnerable to the most privileged…that this is all bad? Why SHOULD women want to enslave men as “retaliation” against generations of oppression and shit-treatment by previous generations of men? What exactly would that prove? Exactly how would that make things better? It would just be the same bullshit, different victim, and that’s not ok.
I think that a lot of this has to do with the misogynist assumption that the “goal” of feminism is to TAKE OVER the patriarchy and replace it with a matriarchy- but that would be just as bad. It does, however, make a lot of sense as to why MRAs behave the way they do. They honestly believe that reinstating the patriarchy is essential to keep men from being “enslaved” by feminists.
@Pillow
Women in Iran actually don’t usually wear the veil, and it is not legally mandated.
@pillowinhell,
It would seem that racism is when Otis misinterprets your comment and assumes things about your meaning (which the rest of us read as sarcasm), but it is NOT racism to actively say that it’s all liberal hoo-ha to believe that black people are as smart as white people.
Isn’t that lovely.
I’m also really missing something with the whole violence = superiority thing. I mean, when a dog is violent, it’s put down. And we castrate and muzzle the ones likely to become violent. Should this be a template for how we treat men? Inquiring minds!
Re: Iran. Yes, Iran is a different country. The issues with women’s dress are a bit complicated there. Burqa and niqab (both cover the face) are not required. Chador is typical (it’s like a longer, more depressing standard headscarf), but the plain headscarf is acceptable. For a nice and entertaining overview of the history, I suggest Marjane Satrapi’s Persepolis
Oh my! My apologies. Me thinks I had better read a little more to make such a stupis error.
Why hasn’t the troll answered my questions about lynching and gay bashing and wedgies!? I wanna knoooooow!
I’ve got dozens of people demanding answers to inane questions and am unable to promptly respond to all of them. I ask you to be patient
Was your question about whether nerds and gays are inferior or something? The answer is no.
Do you have to bench 300lbs to operate software? To drive a remote-controlled robot? To direct air traffic? To keep personnel files?
So thanks to technology developed almost exclusively be men women are marginally less useless in the modern world then they were for the first 5000 years of human civilization. A little gratitude would be nice
So, please…what about this is racist?
You are implying that Islamic societies are more misogynistic than western ones. That’s racist and Islamophobic.
Uh….so why does Otis seem to think that the fact that the more educated and advanced human society gets, the more our intelligent and enlightened human members of society try to build an egalitarian society where everyone is treated with basic decency, rights to bodily autonomy, and various social programs in place to protect, serve and support everyone from the most vulnerable to the most privileged…that this is all bad?
Are you saying that Western societies are more advanced than non western ones? That’s racist.
Yeah, I was being sarcastic. And pardon me if I’m not absolutely crushed by the neo-Nazi calling me racist.
It doesn’t even have to be Muslim, per se. If I lived in a country where deviating even slightly from strict norms of dressing and acting could get me beaten or killed, I probably wouldn’t bother fighting back. My family, my neighbors and all the law would be against me. Even other women, as enraged for me as they might be inside, would be too afraid of sanctions against themselves or their families to stand with me. It has nothing to do with being naturally submissive. Otis seems to think patriarchy is just the right, natural way of things. That women are subjugated because we allow and like it.
If that is so, why does it take such strict measures to ensure compliance? You’d think nary a woman would even HAVE to be beaten or threatened, she’d just happily comply.
But both groups are subject to physical violence. So, clearly they’re inferior, by your logic. So the obvious question is why don’t you consider them inferior?