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What do women want? Ask a dude. Ask an awesome dude.

Oh, ladies, you poor, deluded ladies, so unaware of the basic facts about yourselves. If only you had an objective source for information on the mystery that is you! Happily, a Men’s Rights Redditor by the name of nigglereddit has decided to throw a giant clue your way:

You may want to step back and take a look at the entire thread here, especially nigglereddit’s original post about the different ways he and his wife have responded to being new parents, in which he mocks his wife for what sounds very much like undiagnosed postpartum depression, blaming her misery not on brain chemistry or sleep deprivation or any of a zillion other things that tend to stress out new mothers but on all those terrible women’s magazines and books and TV shows she reads and/or watches.

Also, he pats himself on the back for being a totally cool and awesome dude who handles both his job and his duties as a father in a super awesome way — way better than his wife handles her new motherhood — because he’s a man, damnit, and totally able to see the world in an objective way.

Needless to day, this meaty slab of misogynist shitthatneverthappened got dozens up upvotes from the r/mensrights regulars.

Thanks to r/againstmensrights for pointing me to this terrible post.

EDITED TO ADD:

Speaking of which, the good folks at r/againstmensrights have assembled these handy guides to the shittiest comments in the shitty r/mensrights thread. A-one and a-two.

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Gametime
12 years ago

Wait, shouldn’t Al have requested clarification as to what I meant before criticizing me? For all he knows, he’s being uncharitable!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

“People won’t notice my bias if I tell them that I don’t have one” trolls are my favorite kind of trolls.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I get AL loud and clear–he’s a long-winded, pretentious blowhard asshole. I didn’t need his wall of text to glean that.

Here’s another invite, Al: go fuck yourself.

cloudiah
12 years ago

@Gametime, No because he’s a man, and you are clearly a grinning gray cat who needs to get your reality from a man.

Speaking of cats, this one looks like my Buster:

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
12 years ago

@Al the charitable interpretation is that we’re using a different definition of troll than the broader Internet community uses (although large swathes of the Internet use it to mean “people who come here just to disagree with us”, which is not far from the original definition anyway). You should have awaited clarification before writing your tl;dr about how you’re not a troll.

Al
Al
12 years ago

Thanks for your posts cloudlah. I don’t have an upstanding internet citizen cape, but maybe I could borrow yours? Also I wasn’t confused by your sarcasm (but thanks for the concern), but I am confused by your lack of a question, as you seem to pose one then use different punctuation. Are you making a statement or an inquiry? I am also confused by your equation of a speech given by a senator to the senate floor and some random person posting a casual comment on an online discussion forum. I guess our social expectations of people don’t vary at all according to circumstance or occupation, no?

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Boring troll is boring. Why are we getting all the ones who’re in love with their shortcomings and have to trumpet them far and wide?

I like my trolls double live gonzo, and Al, Otis, Sticky, etc. are not measuring up.

Al
Al
12 years ago

Oh, hellkell, I thought we could be friends. As one blow hard asshole to another I thought we would have something in common. It’s too bad.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I shall cry into into my pillow over the unfairness of the world, Al. We’re just not meant to be.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Al, champ, if you think I was asking a question you don’t understand sarcasm. Or questions. Or perhaps mirrors — you do know that’s not your identical-twin-in-reverse staring back at you, don’t you?

So when you say:

You see, sometimes people don’t speak in ways that admit of perfect, absolute, literal interpretation. We can still get someone’s drift or understand their point, without perfectly literal, perfectly accurate language.

that only applies to people who are not senators. Gotcha. Carry on being wrong on the internet.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Cloudiah, I’m pretty sure if we put a mirror in front of Al, he’d be there all night.

Al
Al
12 years ago

“So, Al, if a given outrageous statement is something you basically agree with, but don’t want to explicitly admit to it, you call it “innocuous hyperbole”. If, on the contrary, it’s something you don’t like, you call it “intellectual dishonesty”. Brilliant.”

Yes Amused, that’s precisely right, my posts weren’t about the actions of Mr. Futrelle, they were about me trying to the wisdom of double standards, in order to prove the point that “men are the only source of wisdom” or something. I think I chose the wrong forum to share this wisdom, because so many of you seem to be so very wise in the ways of things like double standards, invective and intellectual dishonesty. You and the other commenters must have telepathy, because you people are able to read my thoughts better than I can. All I can say is that I’m impressed.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I think I chose the wrong forum to share this wisdom, because so many of you seem to be so very wise in the ways of things like double standards, invective and intellectual dishonesty.

Was that your idea of a burn? OH, SNAP, you suuuuure told us.

Yeah, you picked the wrong forum to have a little tantrum in, that’s for sure.

cloudiah
12 years ago

All I can say is that I’m impressed.

Well, I can understand why.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

This fucking guy. He comes off as a slightly more literate Br__n.

Gametime
12 years ago

All I can say is that I’m impressed.

If that were true, we wouldn’t have to sit through your long-ass rants.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Wait, Gametime, do you think he was being sarcastic? 0__0

katz
12 years ago

All right, I admit it–I thought our discussion desperately needed a moderator, so I hired Al to make sure that everyone adheres to intellectual honesty.

Gametime
12 years ago

I don’t wanna speculate, Cloudiah, that would be uncharitable of me. So I’m gonna withhold judgement until Al comes back to explain to us the meaning of every single sentence he types, just to make sure there’s no misunderstanding.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Yes Amused, that’s precisely right, my posts weren’t about the actions of Mr. Futrelle, they were about me trying to the wisdom of double standards, in order to prove the point that “men are the only source of wisdom” or something.

The fact that he posted this travesty of a sentence after lecturing cloudiah about her grammar amuses me.

Amused
12 years ago

Yes Amused, that’s precisely right, my posts weren’t about the actions of Mr. Futrelle, they were about me trying to the wisdom of double standards, in order to prove the point that “men are the only source of wisdom” or something. I think I chose the wrong forum to share this wisdom, because so many of you seem to be so very wise in the ways of things like double standards, invective and intellectual dishonesty. You and the other commenters must have telepathy, because you people are able to read my thoughts better than I can. All I can say is that I’m impressed.

Aha. Well, All, now that you’ve said all that, I want it clarified for me: Are you saying what you are saying, or are you saying something other than what you are saying, because you are using hyperbole? See, I can’t use telepathy, and as you’ve kindly shown us, a verbal expression of one’s thoughts cannot be taken as an accurate accurate of those thoughts. Heaven forbid I interpret your comment uncharitably by assuming you mean what you say.

Dick Armey
Dick Armey
11 years ago

Lol the guy gave up. Can’t blame him. By the way cloudiah you talk some mad BS but your vocabulary lacks the punch. If you really wanna bully people out of here you’re really gonna need more vitriol son. And Tulgey you jumped the shark with the Russian text. Either way ya’ll are all quite the lovely bunch

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Dick – I don’t know if you know the term “necroing” with threads; it means reviving a thread that’s long since died. Much better to engage in current ones. The old ones tend to get jumped on by trolls trying to get the last word.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Since this post has apparently been revived (or necromancied, this one was long dead) — was this Al Mr. Al — because if so, I’m amazed y’all put up with him as long as you did. Probably not though, Al seems to be able to string together a coherent thought.

Also, by all the gods is this a travesty of English —

Yes Amused, that’s precisely right, my posts weren’t about the actions of Mr. Futrelle, they were about me trying to the wisdom of double standards, in order to prove the point that “men are the only source of wisdom” or something.

Let me fix that (mostly because it needs my favorite punctuation, the oft misused semi-colon) —

Yes Amused, that’s precisely right, my posts weren’t about the actions of Mr. Futrelle; they were about me trying to [insert a verb here] the wisdom of double standards, in order to prove the point that “men are the only source of wisdom” or something whatever it is the original post was trying to claim.

I’m wary on that last fix, as I’m not quite sure what Al meant, but that run on sentence needs a semi-colon and a verb, and that last clause just plain needs help.

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