Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a bunch of the locals are doing a little brainstorming, hoping to come up with a pithy slogan or two for posters that will allow them to better sell their alleged movement to the misandrist masses.
The results so far are, well, intriguing. The front-runner, so far, is this highly upvoted one from deluks917, though as you can see it has received some criticism:
Chernab0g’s contribution is short and to the point:
This one from unexpecteditem is a bit perplexing:
And this one from The_Real_Johnny_Utah is, if anything, even more unexpected than the one from unexpecteditem:
SuicideBanana seems to have a little trouble with his pith. Also, “huh?” Cthulufunk tries his best to play the race card, but unfortunately does not seem to be playing with a full deck:
Neofool’s slogan seems a bit defensive:
Oddly, none of them mentioned the “wicked new slogan” that Counter-Feminist Philosopher King Fidelbogen unveiled earlier this year: “Feminism spreads lies like a fly spreads germs.”
It’s frankly quite bizarre that MRAs haven’t SWARMED (get it? get it?) around this slogan yet. Not only is it clearly the greatest slogan since “The Best Part of Waking Up is Folgers in Your Cup,” but it also comes with a little graphic (see here on the right) that someone made for Mr. Bogen.
And no, despite its endearing amateurness it wasn’t put together as a joke by anyone here.
As wonderful as all these slogans are I think we can do a better job than the Reddit MRAs; after all, most of us know a lot more about the MRA than do most MRAs themselves. So have at it!
Oh, and speaking of posters, these have been going up recently in Vancouver. The r/MRer’s aren’t happy about it.
Those reviews are some of the funniest things I’ve seen in ages.
If I might shed some light on the men’s sexual equality thingamajigger, considering my high school phases are fresh in my memory, I think it has to do with the idea that they hold that women are the “gatekeepers of sex”, and as such men have a harder time acquiring sex. Or something like that.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if your anti-oppression movement is mostly about getting laid, it’s possible that you are not actually oppressed.
Especially if it’s about getting laid without any concern for the other person’s consent, let alone pleasure.
From each according to her abilities, to each according to his needs. Considering that the MRM has such a high proportion of libertarians, the fact that their theory of sexual economics is closer to pure Marxism is deliciously ironic.
And of course they’d never, never acknowledge that sex is a want, a desire, not a need. As has been pointed out many times, nobody actually dies from not having sex.
But, but boners and [BONERS]!
Nobody? What about Christina Chubbuck?
The “MRM” continues to resemble a trainwreck where they kept sending in more trains.
@Sgt Grumbles
Why don’t you go fuck off.
No, really! Because the answer to lack of sex is not suicide, it’s masturbation.
There are several differences between death from suicide and death from lack of sex. The primary one being that the former exists and the latter does not.
I managed not to have sex for 18 years! GASP! HOW DID I SURVIVE!?
Oh right! Masturbation!
Wasn’t it Woody Allen who said “Masturbation is sex with someone I love”?
These MRAs must not like themselves very much….
Oh, Freddie, dear Freddie, the would-be boss of feminism who can’t quite grasp the very basic concept that feminism means that a woman can decide she doesn’t want to sleep with any particular many for any reason that she chooses, and that he is not then owed either an explanation or the right to overrule her decision if he does not approve of her reasoning.
LOL epic typo! Man, not “many”, although if a woman decides not to have sex with many many men, including Freddie, that is also perfectly acceptable.
@ Nanasha
Well, to be fair, it is kind of hard to hurt your hand’s self esteem or make it cry.
In fact, that reminds me of that South Park episode where Butters gets an erection and he thinks that every erection can only be made to go away by having sex with someone.
It’s fucking ridiculous- erections can randomly happen out of nowhere. That does not mean that the second you get a stiffy, you are justified in jumping over your desk in the middle of math class and humping Susie while she’s trying to solve quadratic equations.
Of course, I’ve had a number of boyfriends who seemed to think that THEIR erection was MY problem (ie: I had to “take care of it” in their preferred way). These guys seemed to be completely unconcerned about my own ladyfeelings and pantsfeelings, by the way. That was ALSO “my problem”.
These men were not thinking with their dicks. They were BEING dicks.
RE: “sexual equality,” this comment on r/mr may illuminate the concept somewhat:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/102xqq/equalitys_a_bitch_aint_it_girls/c6a220v
In other words, in a thread about how awful it is for women to get upset and aggressive in the face of rejection, primaloath implies that the onus is on women to morally justify whom they do and do not reject and dismisses the phenomenon of men who get angry at women who reject them.
(ps: 12 upvotes)
I see now why David doesn’t just post quotes from r/mr every day: there is literally too much misogyny.
Because, once again, women are not people and our sexual and emotional desires are not important, therefore we are not allowed to reject men just because we don’t like them or don’t find them attractive. No, we need a Morally Justifiable Reason.
I’m curious as to what they would consider a morally justifiable reason. Maybe if the dude was an actual serial killer and had just confessed to it?
@CassandraSays, obviously not because he did the right thing by confessing to it, demonstrating his nobility of character and thus his deservingness of the sexing.
Srsly, though, primaloath is actually one of the more objectionable contributors to r/mr, even by their standards, and this did not get called out at all. Again: in medium sized thread with about 55 comments, sandwiched between two other comments, primaloath not only did not get called out, he got 13 (last I checked) net upvotes.
It’s not the answer for you, but you don’t get to decide that for other people. Most people wouldn’t say that masturbation is a perfect substitute for sex, except for – maybe – meaningless one-night-stand sex.
I have it! Inspiration has struck!
It would be morally justified if a woman was to turn down an alpha, because he gets enough sex already. Also guys who’re attractive and charming in general, since even if you don’t believe in the PUA shit they’re still super privileged by virtue of being appealing to many women, so turning them down is doing a favor to less appealing men*. It would also be morally justified if a woman was to turn down a mangina, or a man with feminist leanings, since again you would be doing the MRA movement a favor.
So basically if you’re a feminist you should never have sex with men who you might actually get along with. Unhappy, dysfunctional relationships for everyone!
*Because sexual Marxism, which is the only non-evil form of Marxism, that’s why.
I’m still a virgin, and I’m in college, if I leave college a virgin because I’m too socially awkward, that’s fine, my penis is nobody elses problem, nor should it be.
@SgtGrumbles
Grow the fuck up man, nobody owes anyone else sex whatsoever, thinking that someone does is fucking childish, and thinking that suicide is the answer to not being able to get laid is even more fucking childish. Christ on a stick, you sound like me in high school. I like most people, grew out of it, sex really isn’t that big of a fucking deal.
Is anyone else getting flashbacks to The Robert Who Shall Not Be Named?
So, here’s the thing. I agree that masturbation isn’t a perfect substitute for sex with a partner. What masturbation is is the only sex you can have without the consent of anyone but yourself. So, if it so happens that no one else wants to have sex with you at a particular time, masturbation is your only ethical option.*
(*Hiring a sex worker may also be an ethical option, depending on your position on sex work, but that does not appear to be where Grumbles was going, so I’m putting that option aside for now.)
So, Grumbles, what is it that you are seeking here? For us to say “there there, dear, we know, it’s awful that masturbation is your only option, you really should have the option of sex with a partner available”? Because while you might get people to agree with the first part (ie offer sympathy), nobody here is ever going to agree with the second part, because if you can’t find a willing sex partner then, well, that’s just too bad, because there’s no way to get around that problem without forcing someone else into sex they don’t want. Which is far more of a Bad Thing than you having to masturbate when you’d prefer to have sex with a partner.