You remember that big MRA-vs-feminists debate in Vancouver we were talking about the other day? The one later this month? In the car dealership? About whether or not feminism has “gone to too far?” Oh, and which doesn’t, so far, seem to involve any actual feminists?
In case no feminists decide to show up to a debate organized and moderated by MRAs, promoted only on MRA websites, and taking place in a car dealership run by an MRA, one Reddit MRA has a suggestion:
Yep, he really did just suggest that MRAs debate themselves, and then, with no sense of irony, say “Let’s not turn this debate into a MRA circlejerk.”
It’s hard to imagine a more perfect encapsulation of the Men’s Rights movement than this. MRAs are always eager to debate the imaginary feminists that live only in their own heads. Straw feminists are really the only feminists they know.
You might also enjoy TyphonBlue’s heroic special-snowflaking in the Reddit thread.
Aha the comments on that post hilarious:
“Film everything just in case feminists show up to disrupt the debate.
Not if… when
They will be there protesting, they will be in the audience waiting to disrupt the proceedings. It wouldn’t surprise me if the cops/security have to be called.”
“That’s almost a foregone conclusion. You’re dealing with very juvenile people that believe in only their right to exist.”
They do realize that no feminists are going to show up to debate, no feminists will show up to protest…
And that probably no MRA’s will show up either.
I assume that since the role of “feminist debater” is being played by MRAs, the role of “feminist protestor” will be too.
This is kind of like the KKK inviting the NAACP to a debate. No doubt the MRAs think that feminists refusing to debate them somehow means they’re right. LOL
Yes, how very juvenile indeed, believing they have a right to exist. What are they thinking.
Dear God, please let this happen.
They promise to video it and show it to the world. I can’t wait.
*making mental note to self: when next buying groceries make certain of extra popcorn*
I think Trader Joe’s may still have some of their caramel popcorn. This calls for an investigative shopping trip.
I wonder if they’ll talk about “sexual equality.” I’m still puzzling over that one, but my puzzler’s getting sore. Please, MRAs, please explain what that means, please? Please pretty please again? With sugar on top?
Way too late for that, honey. The MRM itself is a circlejerk, and has been as long as I’ve known about it.
I love the tacit admission that human rights organizations would take an oppositional stance to the MRM.
I always feel a bit sorry for the MRA, could you imagine romantic/sexual relationships being that important to you? I mean relationships are sort of nice things to have but the MRA seem to obtain their entire value as a human from their relationship with women. That must be kind of crap.
Pear_tree, I don’t think that romance comes into it for most MRAs, just the sexual part. “I am entitled to sex with whomever I want because penis.”
Man, I sure hope that whoever is the fake feminist will dress in drag and talk in a squeaky Monty Python voice. That will sell it.
I dunno, all the comments about how women loved them and fussed over them as children and WHY NOT NOW? make me think that these guys do want emotional stuff too, they just don’t understand that you may be able to force someone to have sex with you, but you can’t force anyone to love you. They seem to think that they can bully women into loving them, and if they can’t force women to actually love them, then by God they’ll force women to pretend to love them if we want to eat, have a roof over our heads, etc.
Erm…
There are so many levels of fail in those posts, I’m not sure where to begin… Are they also planning on using puppets as substitutes for the feminist speakers?
If no feminists show up, I wonder what hard-hitting questions the “devils advocates” will pose?
I am very much looking forward to seeing this “debate” online. Go for it, MRAs! Even if the women don’t show up. Especially if the women don’t show up.
I must admit, an MRA debate where they attempted to represent feminism would be worth attending for entertainment value alone.
“All feminists worship Valerie Solanas as their deity. The SCUM manifesto is the feminist bible. They burn scented fucking candles as part of their evil black mass.”
I can’t wait for the video.
Now the fucking candles are both scented AND burning?
OUCH!
Yeah, and then we have sex with alphas, just to spite other men (because of course women don’t actually have sex drives). See? Feminism really is just like Satanism, just with less goats.
“The force of your arguments are most compelling. Indeed, we cannot criticize the rampant misogyny of Paul Elam, John the Other, TyphonBlue, and GirlWritesWhat bcuz Sharon Osbourne. I concede the point.”
“In answer to the question of why we think your boners are your own problem, we have no answer. You are correct; your boners are entirely our fault and we have no right to refuse you sex ever. The awesomeness of your argument is overwhelming and we concede in the face of it.”
Woa, I suggested they do that as a joke on an earlier thread.
I hope that they then proceed to have sex on the stage.
It simply has to end that way.