Over on Married Man Sex Life, doucheblogger Athol Kay has provided the ladies with a helpful checklist of the things they need to do, or to be, or to do be do be do, to become the ultimate “red pill” girlfriend or wife. But the women he describes sound a lot less like Trinity from The Matrix than the robotified housewives from The Stepford Wives.
Mr. Kay’s list of demands is too long to quote in its entirety, but here are a few of the choicer items:
(4) Understands that there is a sexual marketplace, and that women have an earlier peak of sexual desirability than men do.
Presumably if she forgets this, her manospherian swain will happily neg her back to a properly less-positive assessment of her rapidly decaying beauty as a woman over the age of 14.
(13) Understands that divorce sucks and is more akin to getting treatment for cancer than having cosmetic surgery.
I sort of agree with this one, actually: for women married to Athol Kay’s followers, getting divorced would be a lot like removing a malignant tumor.
(14) Likes men in a general sense for who they are and what they do, rather than detesting all men in general and making an exception for the tiny few in her nuclear family.
(Huh. Project much?)
(15) Understands the risks both men and women take in having serious relationships, and is willing to negotiate ways to verify trustworthiness in each other. Sees doing this as evidence of true commitment rather than an insulting invasion of privacy.
I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about here. Lie detector tests? Waterboarding?
(20) Doesn’t keep the Red Pill a secret from those that need it.
That’s what we need, more women lecturing women on how terrible they are.
I’ve saved the best for last:
(3) Understands that what she does with her vagina always has some sort of consequence.
Seriously. Please think twice before tattooing Homer Simpson on you hoo-hah! (This has actually been done. You’ll have to look up the pictures yourself.)
In the comments, BlackCat adds a 21st item to the list:
(21) Understands that current society/public opinion, the vast majority of churches, and almost all laws, courts and government agencies dealing with families are all biased heavily against men, and that until the incentives and disincentives return to a more balanced state, men are completely justified in being gun-shy and avoiding commitment and other entanglements as much as possible.
Corollary to (21): Appreciates the men, especially informed (red pill) men, who are willing to take the chance at a relationship despite the above, and goes out of her way to prevent them from being taken advantage of, and to publicly denounce those who do take advantage of them.
So come on, gals, start lining up for your chance to jump through endless hoops for the chance to get with a dude who thinks he’s doing you a gigantic favor by even considering dating you in the first place!
While we’re at it, here’s my favorite scene from The Stepford Wives (the original 1975 version, of course), in which [SPOILER ALERT] Joanna, the new gal in Stepford, discovers that her friend Bobbie is no longer the free-spirited Women’s Libber she thought she knew.
No, with guys like Athol Kay, everything is completely one sided. He has very high expectations of women but doesn’t want women to have any expectations of men. He wants women to act like Stepford wives, because they would only focus on keeping men happy but have no needs of their own.
That movie clip made the original Stepford Wives look likes it’s probably a better movie than the one I saw that had Nicole Kidman and Matthew Broderick.
I’m thinking Ms. Seemins is a different returning troll.
@bionicmommy: the original is worth watching, and the book’s good too.
“Oh, Frank, you’re the champ!“
I’ve read about that and I’m disgusted. They also voted to refuse to accept federal funding to expand Medicaid coverage to people too poor to buy insurance, but not poor enough to get Medicaid under current guidelines. This wouldn’t even cost the state anything, since Missouri is one the states that gets a lot more federal money than we pay in. Yet as a matter of principle, the legislators did that. They keep making decisions to steer the state into Tea Party Hell. Any time I see a headline with “Missouri lawmakers/legislators” I cringe and think “Oh hell, what have they done now?”.
It is. I also have a certain affection for Disturbing Behavior, a teen horror flick from 1998, which is essentially “Stepford Wives IN HIGH SCHOOL!” In a way, I think the latter is based on a more realistic fear: I don’t know how many men would literally murder their wives and replace them with robots (too many, I know), but how many parents would ask too many questions if they could send their problem teen to a weekend seminar and get the perfect kid back in return?
Am I one of the only guys in the world who isn’t paranoid that any girlfriend I find myself with is going to cheat on me, have a baby with another man, and then expect me to pay child support? Or is it that my knowledge is tragically skewed by what I’m seeing on the internet and most guys are actually respectful of boundaries and mature enough to know how to be in a relationship without freaking out at every minor transgression?
You know, I like men just fine. But I like them because they’re people and I like most people. I mean, there are certain traits that are considered traditionally masculine that I especially admire, like the ability to fix things and make useful things, (especially when someone isn’t afraid to tackle a project when they don’t quite know what they’re doing and they see it through), but women do those things too, and I admire them for it just as much. If I admire men because they’re men and not women, that’s as sexist as hating them.
Aworldanon: The latter, fortunately.
In addition to Tulgey’s translation: “When I want sex you will give it to me whenever and however I want it and fulfill my sexual needs without having any of your own because I see you the same way I see a blow-up doll.”
Aworld, yep, what Katz said. Most guys are not jealous and controlling.
awa – I’d like to say that men like you, me, and the other men on this board are the rule instead of the exception, but given that pretty much the entire patriarchal system is set up to prevent the very situation you describe, I have to wonder.
I normally try not to hate people, but the ideas these men espouse are truly despicable, and I want to see every one of them walk through a field of legos.
I love how these PUAs and MRAs have a huge laundry list of traits they require in a woman. They think being an “alpha” is such “high value” that they are entitled to a perfect woman. In reality they’re just ordinary assholes, nothing special, and certainly in no way justified in demanding so much.The “alpha” male hamster at work, LOL.
…I want to see every one of them walk through a field of legos.
As long as when they’re done, we can go make cool shit with all that lego.
Can we make it a lego Taj Mahal? Or maybe an Eiffel Tower?
http://www.amazon.com/LEGO%C2%AE-Creator-Taj-Mahal-10189/dp/B002EEP3NY
http://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Make-Create-Eiffel-Tower/dp/B000P0Z9KQ
I kind of want to make a lego rifter.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LKGEMevjWjM/T30lkRQBwaI/AAAAAAAAAuk/UFxzAACI75g/s1600/LEGO+Rifter+comp+1.jpg
@aworldanonymous my boyfriend has enough legos to make that happen! He had to hire a storage unit for it! But why should it languish there when it could be doing Good?
Did I mention that I want them to do it barefooted.
Not even socks to dull the sharpness of the corners of the legos.
Has to take the blame for the failure of any prior relationships. Must not trust her own feelings.
Must rely on the man to decide what is or isn’t an issue and not discuss any problems with other people, and she can’t even think about leaving.
Yeah, this is not abusive at all. [/sarcasm]
The original was serious and incredibly disturbing. It was pretty much “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” for women.
What bugs me is how everything in that list is vaguely worded so as to sound reasonable, instead of laying out exactly what it MEANS, leaving just that subtle undertone of squick.
Though speaking even as a demi, the idea that I’d be expected ONLY to have a sexuality with my partner is… creepy as fuck. I mean, my husband’s bi; if he ever stopped noticing beautiful women, I’d be seriously concerned for his mental health.
Cool stuff made with legos #1.
Cool stuff made with legos #2.
“Don’t even look at another man. But I get to look at other women and fuck them if I want to because I’m a man and if I cheat it’s because you didn’t pay attention to this:
and this:
so if I stray it’s all your fault.”