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Paul Elam on “stupid lying whores,” Rebecca Watson, and how he never claims to be a victim even though he totally is one.

Paul Elam, in a rare moment of calm

In the fast-paced, perpetually busy world of today, we don’t all have time to read every post on A Voice for Men. So here is an edited version of Paul Elam’s latest post, on Rebecca Watson of Skepchick. And whores. And how he personally doesn’t spend all his time claiming to be a victim, even though he totally is one, in case you forgot since the last time he reminded you of that.

Here’s Paul:

Whores … typical whore … Main Street walking, garden variety anybody’s whore … honest whore. … corporate whore … corporate whores … whorish sexual symmetry … stupid whore … stupid whore … whore … lying whore … whore  … lying whore … whore … lying whore … corporate whore … a lying whore can also be a corporate whore … whoring for the cause … whore … PZ Myers … stupid, lying whore … not just a lying whore who also happens to be a stupid whore … a different subspecies of whore altogether … stupid, lying whore … whore that rigorously abandons intellect, rationale, evidence, decency and compassion, and also fosters much deserved hostility toward themselves … stupid, lying whore … stupid, lying whore … .

Paul Elam, meet Tom Martin.

Speaking of stupid, lying whores, let’s discuss Rebecca Watson’s latest article … about how she and other women who trash and demonize men regularly are helpless victims, getting nasty emails and tweets from some people who don’t like it. … Once [sic] such comment came from an individual who penned, “Hope Dawkins will bestially rape you…in the elevator to hell.” …

I have a keeper file of death threats, but I never wrote an article about them. I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada …  it does not even compare to John the Other facing a gang of 20-30 assholes on the street, some wielding box cutters … 2 plus 2 equals stupid, lying, whining whore. What John and other MRAs are starting to encounter every day, and the future of what is to come, makes getting bestially raped by Richard Dawkins sound kinda funny. We just don’t get the luxury of playing the damsel in distress, nor do we want it.

There are maybe 1200 more words to his post, but I think you probably get the gist of it.

Watson’s post, by contrast, is worth reading in full.

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The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

My link posts are all disappearing! 🙁

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

@ hellkell

When former fans cringe in embarrassment when listening to your new stuff, I’d say it’s time to retire. I’ve never forgiven them for the whole partying-in-a-hotel-room video fiasco. Remember when those guys didn’t even make videos? Watching them turn into a sad 80s party rock band was, well, sad.

I don’t think meowbifying AvFM is quite mean enough. Is there a way to make it all My Little Pony? Either that or Care Bears would be perfect.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

OMG, Hadji was adorable!

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
9 years ago

Feminist posters! Every picture has a classic feminist slogan or poster.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
9 years ago

Also, that was the only AVfM thread I ever have or ever will scroll through. I learned that we’ve been wrong all along: they don’t hate women, they just hate bitches. They are also apparently a social justice movement.

How have we allowed you to deceive us for so long, David Futrelle!? FOR SHAME, SIR!

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Cassandra, I thought Metallica was half-past retirement years ago after their shitfit over Napster. Uh, hello, guys? You got your fan base by tape trading.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

The more I think about it the more perfect the Care Bears are. Can you think of anything that would infuriate those guys more than the idea of adorably fluffy things changing the world with the power of love and cuddles? It’s a perfect inversion of their philosophy.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

The Napster thing produced vicarious embarrassment too. I mean, I always knew Lars was a dick, but really? You want to sue your own fans? Dude, that’s so not metal.

ENelke
ENelke
9 years ago
Unimaginative
Unimaginative
9 years ago

Those later psychedelic cats were almost fractal. Trippy is the word.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
9 years ago
ShakaKhan
ShakaKhan
9 years ago

Hey Manboobzers, someone in Canada is talking about you. And here I thought Canadians were so nice and polite and socially progressive.

http://www.openfile.ca/vancouver/story/mens-rights-campaign-stirs-conflict-commercial-drive

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

Cripes!

Mind you, Wain’s earlier work was fairly strange anyway, I’ve always thought.
Susan Herbert is much more my style. I adore this one … sweetest Romeo and Juliet ever.

::prays for html success::

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago
CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Second link does go somewhere, but there’s nothing visible on the page.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
9 years ago

Lowquacks: try couchsurfing.com for a free bed? 😛

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

That’s weird, it shows up on my computer!

::sobs::

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Maybe I’m just missing a plug-in, or my computer is blocking it as unsafe.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

Nope.

Poop. Kitteh deprivation sux!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Hey, at least the second link actually went somewhere! It’s a start. Like I said, I may just be missing a needed plug-in.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

@The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help
Maybe you can’t link to the image directly? Is this it?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

That’s the one, Myoo, thank you! I was starting to wonder if it’s a protection of some sort on Susan Herbert’s work. (Understandable!)

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

It must be an anti-hotlinking measure to prevent people just posting the link to the image somewhere and use up the bandwidth of the original site. You can probably see it in your link because you had already loaded the image.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

OT but I think I just found the totally definitive and 100% reliable source for Slavey’s ideas about how all gay people are pedophiles and somehow this has to do with feminism.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barber-gays-opening-doors-pedophiles

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

Is there such a thing as OT here? 😀

What a nasty little specimen that one is. Presumably he doesn’t think that God had a plan for any other animals’ sexuality, since God doesn’t seem too bothered by bonobos and all the other umpteen species who don’t do the ‘purely hetero’ thing.

Y’know it just struck me (belatedly) that’s another of Owly’s special inconsistencies. He equates homosexuality and pedophilia, but talks about being aroused by little girls. Um, hello? You one of them sexual anarchists, Mr Owlscat?

I must try to track down that comment one day. It gets mentioned so often. Say, has it got into the Book of Learnin yet?

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Sexual Anarchy is my new band name.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I think his rationalization is that the girls must want his sexual attention, or he wouldn’t find them so attractive, so really it’s their fault. Which is exactly the same rationalization that a pedophile with a preference for boys might use, but hey, this is Owly, we can’t expect things like that to get through his anti-logic force field.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Sexual Anarchy sound like they should do hilarious covers of “Afternoon Delight” in a really tacky hipster lounge.

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
9 years ago

Owly ever tries that schtick on my daughter…

At least he acknowledges that he’s attracted to little girls at some level rather than the “oh, I thought she was sixteen” escape.

M Dubz
M Dubz
9 years ago

@kittehs- your picture of Hadji literally made me squeal with delight. *squee*

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

I think Anti-Logic Force Field would be a great band name.

Or a way to repel Vulcans.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

One thing you have to say about Owly, he’s not sneaky or covert at all – all of his prejudices and fucked up ideas are right out there in the open.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

@M Dubz, thank you! 🙂

I should find the ones of him when his adult fangs were coming through over his baby ones and he looked like the Baby Kitteh Gary Oldman Dracula.

M Dubz
M Dubz
9 years ago

yesplease!

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

I’ll have to scan them in tonight! (Old days, acutal film cameras, lol.)

Now let’s see if I can post a pic of Famous Praying Hadji

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I decided to Google these B4UACT people to see just how seriously the psych community is taking them (not very, it looks like, thankfully). But ugh, they have a YouTube channel. Is there some sort of YouTube promo campaign that’s all “please join us and post your terrible awful very bad not good ideas, creepy horrible people of the world!” that I’m not aware of? Because any time I venture outside of the cute videos of animals and music realms I find YouTube downright alarming.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Please give Hadji a treat to thank him for making me feel better.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

I’ll think a thought to him, Cassandra, he passed over three years ago. 🙂

I wouldn’t know an REM song if it hit me over the head, but this pic always makes me think of the cover of one of their albums – was it called Monster?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Aw, I’m sorry! I lost my first kitty last year, it was really tough.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

I’m so sorry! It’s always bad when they go, even when you’ve seen it before. Never gets easier.

This is the ‘don’t tickle mah belleh!’ of current No 2 cat

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

My new cat will actually let me rub her belly without attacking me afterwards. She’s one of the only cats I’ve ever met where that whole rolling on the back and exposing the fluffy belly thing is not a trap.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

Cat2’s is a trap but not a very serious one. She’ll do the collapse-on-the-floor and look-at-me-I’m-so-cuuuuuute thing, but when I tickle her belly she just makes little whiny noises and braces her back foot on my hand. Not exactly a ‘Now I’ve got you!’ response! 😀

I think she’s actually coming around to being cuddled. She’s always allowed short cuddles but the other day she not only purred but did the kneading thing on my arm. She’s weakening …

Say, does anyone else here have a cat that likes to have an audience while eating? Cat2 is forever coming up and rubbing ankles, then wanting us to follow her to her bowl and watch while she eats a few nibbies.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

My old cat wanted me to sit with him and pet him while he ate.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

M Dubz, it’s not the picture I was looking for – that one doesn’t really work for a scan, alas – but here’s Hadj in his baby Drac days.

aworldanonymous
9 years ago

@Princessbonbon

By the end of this I’ll end up undergoing full conversion into a belligerent drunken party boy. IN-TOX-I-CATE!!!

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
9 years ago
Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

Cat #1 loves belly rubs! But they’re the most social, needy cats I’ve ever seen, both of them. Right now Cat #2 is tugging at my arm because I pulled away to type this. He’s a cuddle-start motor.

Halite
9 years ago

Say, does anyone else here have a cat that likes to have an audience while eating?

No, but when our Boston Terror puppy was little, she liked to have an audience when she pooped. She’s do her special “come look at me shit!” bark. It was weird. And cute. Weirdly cute.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
9 years ago

LOL I think Halite wins that one!