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Complementarian Loner: “Due to their lame, banal talking, [women] show they are only good for sex.” So online sexual harassment of women is just peachy!

Women: Always up to no good!

Complementarian Loners, a relationship blog of sorts run by two kinky but reactionary Catholics (and which I’ve written about before), describes itself as “primarily a blog of ideas.” The main idea seems to be that women are awful, worthless creatures. Surprisingly, it is CL, the female half of the blogging team, who is often the most vociferous on this point.

In a post unironically titled “Tits or GTFO (a.k.a. How Women Ruin Everything),” CL defends the regular harassment women face when entering – sorry, “invading” – “male spaces” online. As she writes:

Too many women will waltz in and expect to engage everyone, with no sense that perhaps they should just hang back once they’ve had their say if they even have it. They talk and talk and talk, derailing conversations, going off-topic usually to talk about themselves, until all that’s left is a room full of clucking hens and all the smart guys eventually get fed up and leave.

They want to be considered equals yet prove they do not deserve it both by showing that what they really want is to be up on that pedestal and that they are incapable of rational thought.

I have to confess that I have never actually seen this happening in any “male space” online, though I’ve seen numerous female spaces invaded and overrun by blabby mansplainy guys, often of the MRA persuasion. That’s certainly happened often enough on Reddit, where virtually every woman-centric subreddit from TwoXChromosome to Feminism has been rendered almost useless for discussion, a process depicted symbolically in the gif below.

Meanwhile, over at the “male spaces,” women are all too often shut down and/or run off by obnoxious dudes calling them bitches and worse and demanding nude pictures. CL, for her part, finds this all rather wonderful, and suggests puckishly that Complementarian Loners might well adopt a similar “policy” to deal with gals who won’t stop disagreeing with her shut up.

There’s a reason the only people we have banned on this blog are women and a couple of manginas. These people don’t know when to shut up and have no sense that they’re wearing out the welcome mat – also known as being entitled. …  I’ve lost whatever patience I had for it and I don’t like to see insightful comments lost in the kerfuffle of women clamouring for validation.

So, perhaps a new policy for women should be, since they refuse to apologise or drop anything, tits or GTFO.

Sure, that might be seen as demeaning. But these women are asking for it through their behavior:

If a woman is making no sense and adding nothing to the discussion, while making it all about her, defending other women, being a special snowflake and NOT wanting to learn anything, she is a liability and worthless in that forum, so she has reduced her worth to only sexual. Therefore, she should just be sexual and show her tits to show she has something to offer.

Really? Because I’ve run across a lot of awful guys online who continually say things that make no sense, and I’ve never once thought that this “reduces their worth to only sexual.” I think it just means they are incoherent assholes with terrible, terrible ideas.

But no, in CL’s mind, women bring this sexual harassment onto themselves. Not only that, but the harassment is good for them:

Men do not do this to women; women do it to themselves. Due [to] their lame, banal talking, they show they are only good for sex. Showing her tits is a humbling and reminds her of her worth. With any hope, it makes her think and realise that in order to be more than a sexual object, she must STFU or prove herself able to be rational.

CL, your argument here isn’t exactly, you know, rational to begin with; you’re essentially demanding that the women you disagree with transform themselves into people who are irrational in the same way that you are.

I am embarrassed for my sex. It makes me cringe to see how they ruin everything once they get their claws in, and how little they really seem to care for men and male spaces. We all want our own spaces free of drama. Perhaps they don’t realise that it is they who create all the drama, but apparently this is what women seem to want.

Yeah, it’s not like angry dudes online are ever known to conjure drama out of thin air (*cough*avoiceformen*cough*).

Of course,  when those poor MRAs start having fits over nothing, we need to remember that the poor babies have been treated so badly by the ladies of the world:

Women need to understand that MRAs and MGTOWs are disgruntled, angry, and frustrated with good reason … These are men who have loved, and their anger is proportional to the love of which they are capable.

Well, that’s your theory. My theory is that, by and large, they’re a bunch of entitled assholes.

In the end, CL brings it all back to one famous naughty lady and her love of apples:

If only women would stop this fight. If only women would submit to male leadership and stop this urge to control everything. Alas, it seems unlikely that most will ever be able to see, but it is sad how bad things have gotten, how cursed the world is, by dint of the daughters of Eve and our disobedience.

That’s right: Because Eve bit an apple, it’s fine to sexually harass women online when you don’t like what they say.

Of course, CL is perfectly fine with offline harassment as well. In the comments, she laments that fact that dudes can’t call a woman a “whore” in a bar these days without that woman getting mad, and suggests that women working in male arenas – sorry, women “playing at being construction workers or what have you” – just learn to appreciate this sort of “jocular speech” from the fellows.

Blessed are the sexual harassers, because women talk too much.

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Seraph
Seraph
12 years ago

He also owned a Plymouth, because he drove Adam and Eve from the garden in a Fury.

That would actually explain a lot about Christine.

ostara321
ostara321
12 years ago

To answer everyones question about why, if God knows everything did he allow his children to eat from the tree? The answer is simple. Free will. If I said don’t eat from this tree but I kept it caged so you couldn’t get to it, it wouldn’t really be of your own free will that you didn’t eat from that tree. Without free will, you’d be nothing but a mindless automoton. He didn’t let them eat from the tree, they choose to disobey God.

So what? He created people and gave them free will with the hope they wouldn’t disobey him even though, being God and all, he knew they would? That makes absolutely no sense. He gave them free will just to “see” if they would choose him? Sounds like a bit of a narcissist. Shit’s always gotta be all about him.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

NWO:

In case you didn’t know, a conspiracy can be a fact. Just because you’ve been conditioned to blurt out the phrase conspiracy theory by the state just shows your gullibility. If it isn’t state approved, you scream “tin foil hat!” Women are easily fooled, that’s why the state loves women.

Says the man who honestly believes Russian and Spanish share an alphabet. You spew conspiracy shit all the time, and I’m seriously not surprised you’re a Truther too. Is there any crank theory you don’t fall for?

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Oh, goody, Zarat’s here.

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

Hmmm, a theological debate. I think I’ll stay out of it. Here’s a kitten instead.

ithiliana
12 years ago

Is there any crank theory you don’t fall for?

There’s that radical crank theory that women are human beings with all the rights that human beings have!

But even NWO has to draw the line somewhere, amirite?

blitzgal
12 years ago

Was 9/11 an inside job

No. But did the Bush administration know in advance that bin Laden was likely to attack the United States and that he would use planes, and did they let it happen because they wanted a “Pearl Harbor-like event” to get justification to invade Iraq as outlined by Rumsfeld, Rove and other Bush administration officials in the Project for the New American Century? Probably.

fembot
12 years ago

I guess Paul Elam is throwing in the towel. He is still oh so butthurt about Roosh’s criticisms of him. Somehow, I doubt he will actually leave. He will just stomp his feet toward the door in pure Elamesque fashion but never actually walk through it.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/adios-man-o-sphere/

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Is there anyone who can see how similar David and CL are?

That’s just you, Tonyboy.

some guy bored with your schtick
some guy bored with your schtick
12 years ago

David, you should write about atheism plus and how it relates to elevatorgate.

That seems a pretty good example of feminists invading an existing non-feminist but okay with feminism space and not having much to offer and changing the conversation and making it all about themselves (for the past year and especially for the past month)

I am not saying I dispute or agree with your theory, just offering an example of something you said you couldn’t find that is also timely and relevant at the moment.

Also that gif was pretty funny. You were a naughty little boy and I am glad your mom had out her super 8.

blitzgal
12 years ago

David, you should write about atheism plus and how it relates to elevatorgate.

Quelle surprise, you’re an A*

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

That seems a pretty good example of feminists invading an existing non-feminist but okay with feminism space

AH HAHAHAHAHAHA

We’ve been there for years, bro.

not having much to offer

Yeah, how to bring in anyone but white dudes of middle class or higher isn’t ‘much to offer’ at all. *Eyeroll*

and changing the conversation and making it all about themselves (for the past year and especially for the past month)

…lol. Citation direly needed, buddy XD

pangea
12 years ago

Female misogynists crack me the fuck up. They are so self-hating, so desperate for male approval that I don’t know why they don’t just get a sex change already. They so clearly want to be men.

CL, you talk a lot but don’t make any sense. You know the drill: show us your tits or GTFO.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

It really says somethign that Boring Troll decided to claim that Atheism+ is entirely about feminism.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I dunno, Antsy, David has never proposed that *any* commenter needs to show assorted body parts to comment. That seems to be a pretty significant difference.

NWO, all the “wake up sheeple” is really rich from someone who thinks it’s spelled “flouride.”

Unfortunately, my only naked picture I have access to at the moment is on my phone, but if you won’t believe that I have something to contribute unless you can see my chest, I’m sure we can work *something* out. (It’s a nice pic. I’m smiling and shirtless!)

johnnykaje
12 years ago

I once made a t-shirt (available on my blog ‘s store, natch) that says “Fuck God, Worship Eve). The biggest complaint I get is why its not “Adam and Eve” or “the serpent”.

Aside from it reading better, its a nice jab at misogynist Christian traditions, such as what CL lady suffers from.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I am pretty sure that Elevatorgate began when a bunch of whiny boys took offense to Rebecca’s mild statement of “guys, don’t do that” in response to being hit on, on an elevator, at 4 am, when she was in a strange city, by a guy she’d never talked to before, when she wanted to go to bed.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
12 years ago

@some guy

Dude. Duuuuuude.

You are aware that Rebecca Watson stated her comments in a speech about how to make atheism more appealing to women, right? She didn’t just walk into a forum about the nature of secular morality and start speaking about feminist issues. This was actually a place given over to speak about women and atheism. If that’s a ” non-feminist but okay with feminism space” then what the fuck is a feminist space?! Brainy Womens’ Night at the lesbian bar?!

blitzgal
12 years ago

I am not saying I dispute or agree with your theory, just offering an example of something you said you couldn’t find that is also timely and relevant at the moment.

First of all, way to shift the goalposts from “male space” which is what we’re actually talking about, by calling it a “non-feminist space.” Atheism is not and has never been a movement that men can claim sole ownership of. The very fact that you’re claiming that women are “invading” a space that *belongs* to men shows what a warped and twisted view of the world you have.

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

Master Chief?

I was thinking Gravemind, but apparently it’s a quote from the Prophet of Truth.

some guy bored with your schtick
some guy bored with your schtick
12 years ago

“Female misogynists crack me the fuck up. They are so self-hating, so desperate for male approval that I don’t know why they don’t just get a sex change already. They so clearly want to be men.”

A lot of misogyny in this comment. Women that disagree with feminists must be self-hating, in fact they are not even women and should get a sex change because they so clearly want to be men.

Seriously, feminist, deconstruct thyself.

some guy bored with your schtick
some guy bored with your schtick
12 years ago

“It really says somethign that Boring Troll decided to claim that Atheism+ is entirely about feminism.”

Just ask David to read to what’s happening at /r/atheismplus where women like human_botnet_larvae and many others absolutely insist A+ is about feminism. And many many participants agree and cheer her on.

Also at /r/atheismplus they’ve appointed at least one SRS moderator to moderate them and there are huge shouts and demands to let SRS moderate the forum for them.

When this is pointed out at atheismplus forums there are again huge cheers of approval and encouragement for that.

It’s difficult to take on with a straight face that A+ isn’t about feminism projecting its needs and demands onto atheism.

David, your mom have any more home video, because that one was just terrific.

some guy bored with your schtick
some guy bored with your schtick
12 years ago

“First of all, way to shift the goalposts from “male space” which is what we’re actually talking about, by calling it a “non-feminist space.” Atheism is not and has never been a movement that men can claim sole ownership of. The very fact that you’re claiming that women are “invading” a space that *belongs* to men shows what a warped and twisted view of the world you have.”

Excellent, excellent deconstruction.

I specifically wrote non-feminist space and you have interpreted for us all that I meant male space even after telling me how I’ve got it all wrong by finding an example in non-feminist space when you were speaking of male space.

Truly excellent.

A+!

blitzgal
12 years ago

Also at /r/atheismplus they’ve appointed at least one SRS moderator to moderate them and there are huge shouts and demands to let SRS moderate the forum for them.

Oh, you can shut that shit down RIGHT NOW, because we know that MRAs are running the feminist threads at Reddit.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

David, you should write about atheism plus and how it relates to elevatorgate.

That seems a pretty good example of feminists invading an existing non-feminist but okay with feminism space and not having much to offer and changing the conversation and making it all about themselves (for the past year and especially for the past month)

A partial list of persons for whom A+ is supposed to support
– atheists
– people of colour
– disabled people
– poor people
– women
– trans* people

I don’t see how feminists have made A+ all about themselves. I also am not aware of any spaces that they have ‘invaded’. Was it when TAM declined suggestions from the A+ crowd? I know it wasn’t Freethought Blogs, ’cause that was always an A+ space (even if the name hadn’t been coined yet). Did Watson invade her own website? I don’t often follow Watson. Where are these spaces that keep getting invaded?

I suppose they made a subreddit… it’s hard to call that an ‘invasion’ by any stretch of the imagination.

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