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Ann Barnhardt, contemporary anti-suffragette: “As soon as the 19th amendment was passed, men were effectively castrated, and in many, many cases disenfranchised by their wives.”

Birth of a suffragette

As election day draws ever nearer – at least for those of us here in the States – I thought I’d devote a couple of posts to some of those who think that half of us should be prevented from casting our votes this November. I think you can probably guess which half.

The strangest thing to me about those who still think that Women’s Suffrage was a bad idea – aside from the fact that they exist at all – is that some of them are women.

Consider the strange case of Ann Barnhardt.

A right-wing blogger and the  founder of a now-shuttered commodities brokerage, Barnhardt has very strong opinions about a lot of things, including Presidential politics, and is not shy about sharing them. Indeed, when she went all Galt and shut down Barnhardt Capital Management last year, she declared:

I will not, under any circumstance, consider reforming and re-opening Barnhardt Capital Management, or any other iteration of a brokerage business, until Barack Obama has been removed from office AND the government of the United States has been sufficiently reformed and repopulated so as to engender my total and complete confidence in the government, its adherence to and enforcement of the rule of law, and in its competent and just regulatory oversight of any commodities markets that may reform.

(For the rest of her explanation, see here.)

Despite her strong political convictions, Barnhardt also believes, apparently with equal conviction, that she should not be able to express her opinions through the ballot box.

In a couple of posts she calls “Permanently Disqualified From Everything,” she presents her case against Women’s Suffrage.

Do you know when things really started to go – literally – to hell in this country? When women were given the right to vote seperate and apart from their husbands. What a flipping disaster. This is when the war against marriage and the family began in earnest – and it has taken less than 100 years for both institutions to be almost completely destroyed. And it all started with the damn suffrage.

Just a quick note: When most people say “literally” they don’t literally mean “literally.” When Barnhardt uses the word, she means it. She thinks Suffrage is literally pushing our country closer to H-E-doublehockeysticks. You know, THE Hell, with the heat and the fire and the brimstone and Satan and all of that. More on this in a moment.

In the meantime, she explains just what is so awful about women having the right to vote:

Here’s the deal. Up until women’s suffrage, a man was the head of his marriage and his household, and his vote represented not just himself but his entire family, including his wife and his children. When men voted, they were conscious of the fact that they were voting not just for themselves and their own personal interests, but they were also charged with the responsibility of discerning and making the ultimate decision about what was in the best interests of their entire family. Wow. Isn’t that nuts? Men being . . . responsible?

Boy, life must have been idyllic back when women couldn’t vote and men were proper patriarchs.

As soon as the 19th amendment was passed, men were effectively castrated, and in many, many cases disenfranchised by their wives.

Hey, at least she didn’t say “literally castrated.”

No longer was the man the head of the household. No longer was he responsible for his wife. Now the wife was a “co-husband” at best, or a flat-out adversary at worst. The notion of a man making the final decision about what was best for his wife and family per his God-given vocation as husband and father was now over. Now all he was good for was bringing home the bacon – but even that wouldn’t last.

None for me, thanks!

If men can’t lord it over women, they have no value except as providers of money?

Oh, but she’s just getting started with the God stuff. See who makes an appearance in this next bit. Could it be … Satan?

Women are made with a healthy, innate desire to be provided for and protected. …

Satan has used this healthy feminine dynamic, perverted by suffrage, to systematically replace men with the government as the providers in society.

Apparently Barnhardt thinks that she’s the only woman who works.

A woman no longer has any need of a man. Marriage no longer serves any practical purpose. A woman can whore around and have as many fatherless children as she pleases, and Pimp Daddy Government will always be there to provide.

… a tiny amount of money to keep the kids from literally going hungry.

Men have learned well from this, too. Men can also slut it up to their heart’s content knowing that the government will take care of their “women” and raise their children for them.

You know, it’s entirely possible for men, women and others to “slut it up” without any babies being produced at all. (Email me for details.)

I believe that the 19th amendment actually DISenfranchised more people than it enfranchised. Many, many married couples quickly found themselves voting against one another. The man would tend to vote for the more conservative platform, and the woman would vote for the more socialist platform. When this happened, the effective result was the nullification of BOTH individuals’ votes.

Disagreement is not the same as disenfranchisement. Using Barnhardt’s logic, you could argue that in most elections the overwhelming majority of votes “cancel each other out,” and thus are “nullified” in this fashion. Indeed, following the logic to its natural conclusion, the only elections in which most votes “count” would be elections in totalitarian countries in which the dude in charge gets 99% of the vote. Most of us are glad when our vote cancels out the vote of someone whose views we abhor.

What this did was massively reduce the voting influence of the married household, and magnify the voting influence of the unmarried – and the unmarried tend to be younger, and thus more stupid, and thus vote for big government. It was all part of the plan, kids. All part of the plan.

“The plan?” How can a conspiracy theory that makes no damn sense in the first place have been someone’s devious plan nearly a century ago?

I would give up my vote in a HEARTBEAT if it meant that right-ordered marriage, family and sexuality was restored to our culture. I would rather that my little female namesakes grow up in a world where they did not have the right to vote, but were treated with dignity and respect, were addressed as “ma’am”, had doors held for them, and wherein men stood up when they entered the room. … Oh, HELL yes. I’ll give up my vote in exchange for that any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Why wouldn’t you?

Because that’s a ridiculous imaginary choice? I too would happily give up my vote if the world were suddenly transformed to match my political and social fantasies. Heck, I would give up all my future wages if someone gave me a bazillion dollars right now. I’d give up my 14-year-old TV for a gigantic new flatscreen HDTV.

But that’s not how the world works. So I’m hanging on to my vote for now, and would encourage everyone else to hang on to theirs as well. Except maybe Ann Barnhardt, who doesn’t seem to appreciate hers.

For no good reason, here’s a great old song by Paul McCartney that mentions suffragettes (though, frankly, the lyrics don’t make much sense at all).

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pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

It WAS way cool.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecunium/2295116063/

There is still dirt on the coin. I’m sure it’s a museum now, under glass and only people with special permissions, and gloves, get to handle it.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

He ought to try it. As soon as the weather isn’t so cold that my skinny-ass won’t die I am in kilts. I hold out until I freeze when getting coffee.

cloudiah
12 years ago

@pecunium, cool story bro. Except in this case I am not being sarcastic. I would love to have held that coin!

Zanana
Zanana
12 years ago

I am late to the discussion but, @Glove regarding relationship advice people, I second the recommendation of Arden Leigh but even more I recommend Wayne Elise. He is my favorite by a long shot. I went to one of his workshops and was the only girl there, and he very gamely alternated role-playing male and female mack-ees so I could practice the macking strategies he was explaining… he’s funny but also reasonable and respectful

Janet
Janet
12 years ago

Last year when Ann Barnhardt made such a fuss, I looked her up on the FINRA BrokerCheck website. She wasn’t there nor was her brokerage. All of the other brokers I know are.

http://brokercheck.finra.org/Search/Search.aspx?PageID=1

FINRA is the largest independent regulator for all securities firms doing business in the United States. FINRA’s mission is to protect America’s investors by making sure the securities industry operates fairly and honestly. All told, FINRA oversees about 4,380 brokerage firms, about 163,150 branch offices and approximately 633,000 registered securities representatives.

Amnesia
Amnesia
12 years ago

I had a woman creep on me this weekend. I was in formal dress (white tie, with kilt and sporran) and she looked me up and down and said, “You look Goood!” in that way which implied I was a treat to be eaten, and my feelings weren’t important.

I love guys in kilts as much as the next woman, but guys in kilts are friends, not food.

Shaenon
12 years ago

Was he being rhetorical or does he honestly believe that standing on public transport is a form of oppression?

He used to bewail the cruelty of having to stand on the bus (something that only men have to do, apparently) a LOT. Which is funny, because I don’t think he rides a bus; supposedly he flies to his job assignments.

Maybe evil women make him stand on the plane.

M Dubz
M Dubz
12 years ago

@Glove- dating advice for LGBTQ awkward ladies-
http://www.everyoneisgay.com

and also for nerds in general-
http://www.drnerdlove.com

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

There was absolutely no reason for the so called revolution other than slaughter and destabization.

Milkboy, if you think you have it so bad with 50 hour work weeks that include overtime pay, air conditioning, and central heating, I defy you to go be a serf in turn of the 20th century Russia. You have no earthly idea what the hell you are talking about, as usual.

Every inklng of wealth was handed over to the banker run state known as Russia

Bankers, as we all know, are a big fan of the end of capitalism.

I feel like Owly just hates bankers, and hates communists, and therefore these things must have something to do with each other.

Stonecipher Beadsman
Stonecipher Beadsman
12 years ago

I have to say, one of my favorite things to do is to poop on long-distance buses, and I highly recommend it. I mean obviously there are always seats available when you’re riding long-distance and so you’re sitting either way, but the toilet is still an experience not to be missed. I’m not really sure as to the structure and/or placement of the waste tank within the bus, but I’ve always noticed that the air is actually kind of cool in the toilet bowl, and there’s what feels like a light suction, so when you sit down it’s like this brisk, airy tug on your butthole. It’s kind of refreshing after who knows how long breathing in snoring people’s carbon. And best of all, the time goes way faster, which I guess makes sense – I mean you’re doing something, at least while you’re pushing the poop out, so it serves to distract your brain from the massive boredom that is a two-hour ride with a bunch of old people.

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Owly just hates everyone not-Owly, it seems.

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Stonecipher – yeah, but have you ever been on a bus where the dunny overflowed? I have, on an overnight trip.

Heidihi
Heidihi
12 years ago

Kittehs Help…maybe you and stonecipher were on the same bus 😀

TheNatFantastic
12 years ago

*does the ‘Late To The Party’ dance*

So here’s a series of covers a British men’s magazine ran for their ‘Man Of The Year’ awards: one of these things is not like the other and oh surprise it’s the one that’s coded female

My first ‘history is cool’ moment was visiting the Occupation Museum in Latvia. They portrayed my family and showed what my grandparents escaped when they were teenagers to give themselves a full life. They fled to Germany in 1946 for a better life FFS. People went to death camps for singing traditional songs. When I was little, I used to run away from song-time during my Latvian-expat summer camp times. I felt so guilty when I realised.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
12 years ago

@stonecipher Our lad was once going for a piss on a two hour coach journey on a micro-budget route and opened the door to a guy jacking off. Is this recommended practice?

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
12 years ago

@stonecipher Our lad was once going for a piss on a two hour coach journey on a micro-
budget route and opened the door to a guy jacking off. Is this recommended practice?

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
12 years ago

My browser got dogs in it and my comment posted twice. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

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Kittehs Help…maybe you and stonecipher were on the same bus

So that’s who I should blame! 😀

PsychoDan
PsychoDan
12 years ago

Is it just me, or has American conservatism gotten way more brazen lately with the idea that people should be disenfranchised for voting ‘wrong’? I mean we’ve had this same “women’s sufferage was a mistake” bullshit from people who are on national television, and Florida trying to actually disenfranchise a bunch of minorities to keep them out of the presidential election. It’s getting scary.

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It certainly is. And I’m seeing it from the other side of the Pacific!

Stonecipher Beadsman
Stonecipher Beadsman
12 years ago

Well, I would think that situation is the jacker offer’s fault for not locking the damn door.

But I’ve been thinking about my previous post and you know, I don’t think that recreational pooping needs to be limited to the bus. I’m remembering how when I was a little kid and my parents took me to church I’d go poop in the bathroom to pass the time during mass and/or other assorted Jesus stuff. I’d always come out just in time for snacks after the last amen, or if I thought it had been long enough that my mom would get pissed off. I remember that by the time I was in middle school I had the whole shebang down to a science. First Sunday School out back, which was kind of stupid and boring but tolerable because I was in an open space with a bunch of other kids, and we got to read books and draw and shit, as long as it was at least tangentially related to Jesus. My Sunday School instructor was this fat lady who thought science wasn’t true, but she was pretty nice and sometimes brought cookies and stuff, so again, I didn’t mind it too much. Then, though, she’d march us all in for the end of the service, when they say stuff like “forgive our trepasses as we forgive those who trepass against us”, and sing the same fucking shit every week. I’d give it a few minutes for my parents’ sakes before excusing myself. Actually, if I remember right “trepass” was one of the cues I’d use, since it meant we were something like 1/3 done. I’d go sit on the toilet with my pants down and stare out the little half-window with the big fat vine snaking across it. It was almost always bright on Sunday mornings, maybe that was God’s work. Even though I didn’t have to, I’d usually at least pee a little, because you’re sitting on the toilet, you know, and I think there’s a little Pavlovian conditioning going on there. And that was generally the second cue to get down and leave for snacks. Man I wish I was a kid again.

speedlines
speedlines
12 years ago

Here’s what I don’t get: Instead of all this babbling about repealing the 19th Amendment (do they have any idea how difficult that would be?), wouldn’t it make more sense to just convince women not to vote? Voter turnouts are already pathetically low; so they’re halfway there anyway.

speedlines
speedlines
12 years ago

That’s my main problem with these people; even if I agreed with them they still wouldn’t make any sense.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

PsychoDan: I recall reading Conservatives saying, in horrified tones, that Clinton wasn’t a very legitimate president because if it weren’t for the women, the blacks and the Native Americans Bill Clinton would never have been elected.

One of the things the Republican Party has admitted is this is the last election they have any hope of winning with the white vote, and to pull that off they have to get 61 percent of it (which is more than Bush I managed to pull off against Dukakis in 1988. (How the numbers stack up).

It’s a narrow thing, and the real question is turnout, but the sense that only the “right sort” of voters are “real” is longstanding. I really need to get a copy of Albion’s seed and see how well argued it is, and how the thesis ties into that idea, but I think the sense of “aristocracy” that the Cavaliers brought with them, and the secondary effects of that being magnified because of slavery have a lot to do with it.

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Gawd. I just read that out to my boss. “Republicans – subtle as a brick” was his response.