Let’s say you’re a dude who thinks that All Women Are Like That, except possibly for two or three of them. Let’s say you think women today are the equivalent of rattlesnakes, or unexploded grenades, or hungry, hungry alligators. Let’s say that you think marrying a woman “is like playing Russian Roulette with a fucking Gatling gun and hoping that the one that might actually hit you is a blank.” Let’s say you think that women are
Hypergamous
Materialistic
unfaithful
almost Bi Polar like mood swings
entitled
completely self serving
histrionic
parasitic
hard wired for alpha cock
Let’s say you’re a dude who thinks all (or most, or even some) of these things, yet somehow you’ve ended up with a young daughter – one of these horrible , histrionic, parasitic, alpha-cock-loving, rattlesnake-grenade-alligator-gatling-gun creatures in embryo. How might you raise her so as to minimize the chances that she’ll blow dudes up and inject them with venom?
Well, worry not, gentle misogynist, for Der Igel on MGTOWforums.com has an answer for you: raise her to be a farmer.
I do not have children, but if I had daughters I would take them camping and fishing, take them to a farm or slaughterhouse to see where their food comes from, punish them with the same commensurate severity as sons, and expect them to take on the same age-appropriate responsibilities as sons. In short, I would do anything to avoid the princess mentality (dolls ok, but no freaking Barbie dolls). I would not treat them like they need special protection that a boy the same age would not need.
It might be tough, though, because female humans are biologically wired to be dirty moneygrubbing whores:
However one must probably also recognize that once puberty hits, biology is going to take over, and that *in certain areas* the term AWALT [All Women Are Like That] applies. Women are always going to be more social animals, will always be resource and status oriented, will always treat sex as a means and not an end, etc.
Still, for the sake of ALL HUMANITY, in particular for all those dudes who might want to get with your daughter, you must persevere, and keep your eyes on the prize. That prize being a daughter well-equipped for agricultural work.
My goal would be to produce the mentality of some kind of educated yet hard-working modern farmer woman, rather than that of a princess-in-waiting.
Just make sure to keep her away from traveling salesmen.
Cool as Tom Bombadil is, his relationship to the rest of the LotR mythos is complex enough that it couldn’t really be worked into a movie without feeling like a big-lipped alligator moment.
However, if one decides to cut Tom Bombadil, one really must figure out a better source of armament than “Aragorn just carries around four hobbit-sized swords at all times.”
Crap, it did it again. Maybe I used a word that triggered the filter
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So which word is the troll-y one? Let’s try
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Nope. Can’t figure it out, and I’m probably clogging up the troll filter. You’ll all just have to do without my insights
yeah, this. you pretty much have to cut something, and tom bombadil is the least relevant to the greater narrative.
@Sir Bods —
Gur bar fcvaavat va cynpr sbe nyy rgreavgl jnf sernxl.
Now that’s sounding just ruuuude … in Hispano-Cyrillic, maybe. 😀
@ Falconer – Yeah. Brrr.
Yeah, I hate Snyder with a fiery passion. That movie is going to need to get wondrous reviews for me to step into a theater.
@Katz
Nope. Imean academic essays in peer reviewed journals & anthologies. Under my offline name which i don’t use here.
@EEB: I wonder how an argument between “women-only-want-love”-sexists and “women-only-want-money”-sexists would turn out?
Re the hobbit: I was really shocked at first on hearing that they’re gonna turn this LITTLE book into THREE movies. But apparently they’re gonna fill it up with stuff from other Tolkien books and backstory, so… might work I guess… we’ll have to wait and see. And oh, Beorn is played by a Swedish actor, Mikael Persbrandt. 🙂 He usually plays action hero, but he’s done serious stuff too.
Re Steve Moffat and women… Have anybody seen the British sitcom “Coupling”? The fourth and last season was weaker, but the first three seasons were pretty hilarious, DESPITE having lots of sexist stereotypes. Like women enjoy home-styling while men just can’t comprehend the concept, in a relationship the woman will push for marriage while the guy doesn’t want to commit on that level, and all guys are crazy for lesbian porn. Such tired stereotypes and yet the plots were so hilarious that me and husband couldn’t help but enjoying it… HOWEVER, one good thing one could say about the show’s portrayal of women is that at least it wasn’t slut-shaming. Susan, the main character’s girlfriend, was portrayed as Good and Normal and contrasted against his crazy ex. There was also a joke in one show about how she masturbated so much that she continuously had to buy new batteries for all her vibrators, and another show about how she’d slept with half of Australia when she was there on holiday with a friend (before current boyfriend). BUT she was still the Normal Good Girl, so high libido and sluttiness wasn’t treated like a character flaw. One good point in the sea of sexism.
And btw, Susan was apparently based on Steve Moffat’s wife, so yep, he has seen a woman “in the wild”. Maybe his wife simply is a pretty stereotypical woman…
Re: Dr. Who; I am actually a huge fan of Amy (she ties for first with Donna, or maybe Donna is slightly ahead). I really appreciate her willingness to call the Doctor on his bullshit, and that Moffat actually lets her solve puzzles before the Doctor does. I’m also a huge fan of her and Rory’s relationship, and how they really seem like a team in a way that Rose and Mickey never were, even when they were nominally dating. That being said, her pregnancy story lines (and the unending nature thereof) are definitely squicky.
Also, the current Doctor is, in my head, Evil Doctor. He pulls some seriously unethical stuff (for example, the episode with Old Amy).
@Dvärghundspossen- re: sex for love and sex for money MRA’s, I think they can both agree that women are just exploiting men for their sexy sexy resources, whether emotional or financial.
Also, Coupling is HILARIOUS
Oh, Coupling is hilarious. Jeff is my favorite, both because he’s the funniest and because Richard Coyle is yummy.
The Giggle Loop.
@tcwill00
I may have been a tad hyperbolic for comedic effect, but Amy did literally spend the last series barefoot and pregnant! Also, last years Christmas episode with the magic super-wombs or whatever that shit was.
@MDubz
Someone mentioned to me the other day that Moffat’s version of a ‘strong woman’ is to make a normal Moffat woman and make all the men around her weak and stupid (ZOMG MISANDRY!!1). From what I can see, that’s all that Amy is. Hence Rory’s default state of wimpy twit and why she (on one or two occasions) has been able to solve things before The Doctor – the only time I really remember this happening was her second episode (space whale), and she’d been set up as ‘sexy/feisty’ in the first (I hated her from the second I saw her in the police uniform, she’s always just appeared to me to be fanservice to basically ‘apologise’ for Catherine Tate, and NOBODY apologises for Doctor Donna).
Donna is awesome, my favorite companion of the new series. As for the old series, so hard to choose… Barbara, Vicki, Zoe, Liz, Jo, Sarah, Leelah, the Romanas, Nyssa, Ace…
As for now, though, what would be awesome would be a show runner with the Moff’s skill with plotting and Uncle Rusty’s sense of character.
@Bodsworth
Definitely. A cyberman Moff suit with a Rusty human core 😉
Barbara was special. I’ve only seen a couple of the first Doctor’s programs, and while the shows themselves didn’t grab me too much (or the first Doctor himself) it was a pleasure to see a woman companion who was mature, intelligent, educated and competent!
Of the Doctors themselves, I think my favourite would be Jon Pertwee. Much as I like David Tennant, I prefer an older Doctor, and Jon Pertwee’s had a very appealing ability to express compassion as well as doing all the hero stuff.
Plus his velvet coats and Bessie were the best.
And there was the Brigadier. Loved Lethbridge-Stewart!
@thenatfantastic- I don’t buy Rory’s characterization as a “wimpy twit.” I think he started out that way, but I think he’s grown into a character of immense personal courage and supportiveness (which seems to be the arc that male companions take in general. I wish some of them started as badass). As for characterizations of Amy as merely “fiesty,” she figured out part of the puzzle in the most recent episode, and I feel like she really understands the Doctor as flying by the seat of his pants, which not all companions do (esp. Rose and Martha).
That being said, you are right. Nobody apologizes for DoctorDonna.
@The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help: Barbara ran over a Dalek with a lorry, once. It would have been better if she had been the science teacher and Ian the history teacher, but I’m not complaining.
Hey, who mentioned Foyle’s War? I watched it, and I found my reactions to it to be mixed. Some of the stories weren’t interesting, others were. I spotted David Tennant but not Mme de Pompadour. Did you spot Pat Troughton’s son, David?
Also, there’s Doc Martin with Martin Clunes, whose early career involved a major role in the Davidson-era episode Snakedance, and Ian McNeice, who played Churchill in “Victory of the Daleks.”
A weaker contender is Kingdom, with Stephen Fry. I spotted Colin Baker in one episode as one of Kingdom’s clients.
And Peter Davidson has The Last Detective, of which I haven’t seen much, but I am reliably informed that it’s good.
Re: Coupling
Every once in a while, the phrase “wouldn’t want it turn into a vegetarian spank inferno” occurs to me. And then I get weird looks because I’m laughing in not-necessarily-appropriate places.
TABLACKSMITH: the attention to the material world was incredible (Jackson said he was focusing on creating the sense of history which meant that a lot of the spiritual was left out – -so much of that in the novel is shown through internal point of view, often Frodo’s, that it would be difficult to show–thus the “fail” with the White Tree).
I think one thing that made me fall in love was noticing on the third or fourth viewing of FoTR that every Dwarf Lord’s armor was differently styled and decorated, just for a quick shot of them taking their rings.
Wow. THAT is beautiful.