Weirdly, a bunch of them also seem to view the same scene with the genders flipped as how things should properly be. Look at that last line about “Learning to submit is the final test”. I could totally see that coming out of an MRA about women.
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago
“Absurb-ridiculous”? “Fool”? This sounds awfully familiar!
That is profoundly disturbing. Not sure why but can’t help feeling the obvious overdone muscle power of the man in the image is as much relevant to MRA ideology as the ‘submission’. Ugh
That comic is ingenious. I see it as satire and social commentary on the whole “women need to submit” mindset that some complementarians keep brandishing.
thebewilderness
12 years ago
Men of the ruling class live in fear that if they lift the boot from the necks of the oppressed all that they have done will be done to them. They simply cannot let go of the dominance/submission paradigm.
Cyberbird
12 years ago
I am about half-sure it’s from one of the early Wonder Woman comics, those tended to have a lot of bondage and fem-dom themes. The author was quite progressive for his time, but his preferences did tend to shine through in his work…
That is definitely early Wonder Woman, and yes, the author had a LOT of kinky stuff in the comic. And not by accident. More than almost anyone in the era, he knew exactly what he was putting in there, and why. Bless his perverted little heart, Marston was awesome.
So yes, I think that is how an awful lot of MRAs view the world. I’ve suspected for a long time that one would see a higher proportion of particularly esoteric femdom fantasies among MRAs; I know one individual for whom that’s definitely the case, and an awful lot more have what you might call “tells”.
speedlines
12 years ago
and an awful lot more have what you might call “tells”.
Yeah, I figured that out, too. All you have to do is count the number of times the words “slave” and “chains” and “cage” and “whipped” come up in a typical MRA conversation.
I figured early Wonder Woman as well, because, well, the bondage and also because back then they apparently couldn’t draw women’s feet – note that even in a fem-dominated quasi-biblical world of loincloths and chains, those silly girls still went and invented patent leather pumps. Can’t appear properly out of the house without them!
Stating the obvious here, but I know quite a few men who are into this sort of thing and feel in no way deprived of their rights for it.
So this is from a superhero comic with slightly porny themes… like every other superhero comic, then. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not too intimate with the subject. No pun intended.
inu
12 years ago
“Stating the obvious here, but I know quite a few men who are into this sort of thing and feel in no way deprived of their rights for it.”
Thank you. In fact, it’s dominant men who seem to be scared as hell of us.
In fact, it’s dominant men who seem to be scared as hell of us.
Or perhaps wannabe-dominant, or just domineering men.
CassandraSays
12 years ago
Every time this subject comes up I have to point this out – there’s a difference between being a dom and just being a pushy, inconsiderate asshole. MRAs who fancy themselves as dominant are in the latter category.
So this is from a superhero comic with slightly porny themes… like every other superhero comic, then.
I think it’s a touch more than “slightly” in this case. I’ve read some of those early Wonder Woman comics, and subtle they ain’t.
Liam
12 years ago
That is definitely early Wonder Woman, and yes, the author had a LOT of kinky stuff in the comic. And not by accident. More than almost anyone in the era, he knew exactly what he was putting in there, and why. Bless his perverted little heart, Marston was awesome.
So yes, I think that is how an awful lot of MRAs view the world. I’ve suspected for a long time that one would see a higher proportion of particularly esoteric femdom fantasies among MRAs; I know one individual for whom that’s definitely the case, and an awful lot more have what you might call “tells”.
Regarding this comment i would say the numbers of people in both mra and feminist camps with control issues would be much higher than in general society, I would think a lot more feminist women would be likely to be either sexually submissive and a small number sexually dominant, so its possible mras could be the same. The anger ghastly to come from somewhere in both camps.
hellkell
12 years ago
Would you say that, Liam? And what exactly are you basing this assdata on?
Rahu
12 years ago
and, i’m fascinated – what exactly is “anger ghastly”? I thought it might be a typo for “anger has” but there’s that whole extra letter at the beginning and the extra three at the end…
not to mention, where’s the anger, ghastly or beautifully, coming in from the dom/sub thing?
plus, I’m just all around confused as to how you’re linking all this together – feminists are supposed to be sexually submissive? If so, what’s the problem the MRAs have? Isn’t that one of the things they want?
CassandraSays
12 years ago
Wait, is this Meller/Nolan part 3, where Liam thinks that feminists are “provoking” men into spanking them because that’s what all girls want, tee hee? Eeeewww…
C’mon, Liam, if you’re serious and not just another return troll, where do you get this notion that being a feminist is any sort of indicator about one’s sexual preferences? Since when does the basic idea that women are human beings predict anything about what one likes to do in bed, or levels of ‘anger ghastly’ (is that related to sentence structure ghastly)?
Weirdly, a bunch of them also seem to view the same scene with the genders flipped as how things should properly be. Look at that last line about “Learning to submit is the final test”. I could totally see that coming out of an MRA about women.
“Absurb-ridiculous”? “Fool”? This sounds awfully familiar!
That is profoundly disturbing. Not sure why but can’t help feeling the obvious overdone muscle power of the man in the image is as much relevant to MRA ideology as the ‘submission’. Ugh
I’m sure that that’s how owly views the world.
Completely OT, but it’s Maru: http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/maru-makes-his-first-commercial
Someone said the other day that it’s Maru’s world, and we just live in it.
I think that hypothesis has just been proven.
That comic is ingenious. I see it as satire and social commentary on the whole “women need to submit” mindset that some complementarians keep brandishing.
Men of the ruling class live in fear that if they lift the boot from the necks of the oppressed all that they have done will be done to them. They simply cannot let go of the dominance/submission paradigm.
I am about half-sure it’s from one of the early Wonder Woman comics, those tended to have a lot of bondage and fem-dom themes. The author was quite progressive for his time, but his preferences did tend to shine through in his work…
I usually have to pay for this sort of thing….
That is definitely early Wonder Woman, and yes, the author had a LOT of kinky stuff in the comic. And not by accident. More than almost anyone in the era, he knew exactly what he was putting in there, and why. Bless his perverted little heart, Marston was awesome.
So yes, I think that is how an awful lot of MRAs view the world. I’ve suspected for a long time that one would see a higher proportion of particularly esoteric femdom fantasies among MRAs; I know one individual for whom that’s definitely the case, and an awful lot more have what you might call “tells”.
Yeah, I figured that out, too. All you have to do is count the number of times the words “slave” and “chains” and “cage” and “whipped” come up in a typical MRA conversation.
I figured early Wonder Woman as well, because, well, the bondage and also because back then they apparently couldn’t draw women’s feet – note that even in a fem-dominated quasi-biblical world of loincloths and chains, those silly girls still went and invented patent leather pumps. Can’t appear properly out of the house without them!
“Absurd-ridiculous” quite accurately describes itself.
Stating the obvious here, but I know quite a few men who are into this sort of thing and feel in no way deprived of their rights for it.
So this is from a superhero comic with slightly porny themes… like every other superhero comic, then. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not too intimate with the subject. No pun intended.
“Stating the obvious here, but I know quite a few men who are into this sort of thing and feel in no way deprived of their rights for it.”
Thank you. In fact, it’s dominant men who seem to be scared as hell of us.
Or perhaps wannabe-dominant, or just domineering men.
Every time this subject comes up I have to point this out – there’s a difference between being a dom and just being a pushy, inconsiderate asshole. MRAs who fancy themselves as dominant are in the latter category.
So these guys see themselves as living in some kind of, “Lady Land?”
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LadyLand
I think it’s a touch more than “slightly” in this case. I’ve read some of those early Wonder Woman comics, and subtle they ain’t.
That is definitely early Wonder Woman, and yes, the author had a LOT of kinky stuff in the comic. And not by accident. More than almost anyone in the era, he knew exactly what he was putting in there, and why. Bless his perverted little heart, Marston was awesome.
So yes, I think that is how an awful lot of MRAs view the world. I’ve suspected for a long time that one would see a higher proportion of particularly esoteric femdom fantasies among MRAs; I know one individual for whom that’s definitely the case, and an awful lot more have what you might call “tells”.
Regarding this comment i would say the numbers of people in both mra and feminist camps with control issues would be much higher than in general society, I would think a lot more feminist women would be likely to be either sexually submissive and a small number sexually dominant, so its possible mras could be the same. The anger ghastly to come from somewhere in both camps.
Would you say that, Liam? And what exactly are you basing this assdata on?
and, i’m fascinated – what exactly is “anger ghastly”? I thought it might be a typo for “anger has” but there’s that whole extra letter at the beginning and the extra three at the end…
not to mention, where’s the anger, ghastly or beautifully, coming in from the dom/sub thing?
plus, I’m just all around confused as to how you’re linking all this together – feminists are supposed to be sexually submissive? If so, what’s the problem the MRAs have? Isn’t that one of the things they want?
Wait, is this Meller/Nolan part 3, where Liam thinks that feminists are “provoking” men into spanking them because that’s what all girls want, tee hee? Eeeewww…
C’mon, Liam, if you’re serious and not just another return troll, where do you get this notion that being a feminist is any sort of indicator about one’s sexual preferences? Since when does the basic idea that women are human beings predict anything about what one likes to do in bed, or levels of ‘anger ghastly’ (is that related to sentence structure ghastly)?