It’s victim-blaming at its worst. Last week, Father Benedict Groeschel, a fairly prominent religious figure who is, among other things, the director of the Office for Spiritual Development for the Catholic Archdiocese of New York, said some utterly appalling things about the victims of sexual abuse by priests.
In an interview with the National Catholic Register, Groeschel declared that some of the victims were likely “seducers,” and expressed sympathy for ”poor” Jerry Sandusky, and suggested that abusers “on their first offense … should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime.”
After the comments spurred outrage, the NC Register took down the interview. Here are the relevant sections, which I found reposted by an appalled columnist on the right-wing RenewAmerica site. The whole thing is awful; I’ve highlighted some of the worst parts.
[Interviewer]: Part of your work here at Trinity has been working with priests involved in abuse, no?
[Father Groeschel]: A little bit, yes; but you know, in those cases, they have to leave. And some of them profoundly — profoundly — penitential, horrified. People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to — a psychopath. But that’s not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.
[Interviewer]: Why would that be?
[Father Greoschel]: Well, it’s not so hard to see — a kid looking for a father and didn’t have his own — and they won’t be planning to get into heavy-duty sex, but almost romantic, embracing, kissing, perhaps sleeping but not having intercourse or anything like that.
It’s an understandable thing, and you know where you find it, among other clergy or important people; you look at teachers, attorneys, judges, social workers. Generally, if they get involved, it’s heterosexually, and if it’s a priest, he leaves and gets married — that’s the usual thing — and gets a dispensation. A lot of priests leave quickly, get civilly married and then apply for the dispensation, which takes about three years.
But there are the relatively rare cases where a priest is involved in a homosexual way with a minor. I think the statistic I read recently in a secular psychology review was about 2%. Would that be true of other clergy? Would it be true of doctors, lawyers, coaches?
Here’s this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky — it went on for years. Interesting: this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky Why didn’t anyone say anything? Apparently, a number of kids knew about it and didn’t break the ice. Well, you know, until recent years, people did not register in their minds that it was a crime. It was a moral failure, scandalous; but they didn’t think of it in terms of legal things.
If you go back 10 or 15 years ago with different sexual difficulties — except for rape or violence — it was very rarely brought as a civil crime. Nobody thought of it that way. Sometimes statutory rape would be — but only if the girl pushed her case. Parents wouldn’t touch it. People backed off, for years, on sexual cases. I’m not sure why.
I think perhaps part of the reason would be an embarrassment, that it brings the case out into the open, and the girl’s name is there, or people will figure out what’s there, or the youngster involved — you know, it’s not put in the paper, but everybody knows; they’re talking about it.
At this point, (when) any priest, any clergyman, any social worker, any teacher, any responsible person in society would become involved in a single sexual act — not necessarily intercourse — they’re done. And I’m inclined to think, on their first offense, they should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime.
In the place where the interview originally ran, the National Catholic Register posted apologies from the paper’s editor-in-chief, the The Community of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, and Groeschel himself. The statement from the Friars was at best a half-apology, and offered this “excuse” for his comments:
About seven years ago Fr. Benedict was struck by a car and was in a coma for over a month. In recent months his health, memory and cognitive ability have been failing. He has been in and out of the hospital. Due to his declining health and inability to care for himself, Fr. Benedict had moved to a location where he could rest and be relieved of his responsibilities. Although these factors do not excuse his comments, they help us understand how such a compassionate man could have said something so wrong, so insensitive, and so out of character.
I’m pretty sure getting hit by a car doesn’t make you think that victims of sexual abuse are the ones responsible for that abuse. It doesn’t put that attitude in your head, though it might make you think it’s acceptable to say such things out loud in an interview.
And if Groeschel is indeed so cognitively impaired that he can’t be held fully accountable for the words coming out of his mouth, why was he giving interviews to the press in the first place? How was he still capable of running the Office for Spiritual Development for the Catholic Archdiocese of New York? And why did the editors of the NC Register publish the comments without challenge in the first place? Presumably none of them have been recently hit by a car.
In their apology, the Friars also said:
He never intended to excuse abuse or implicate the victims.
Really? How exactly is suggesting that 14 year old boys are “seducers” preying on the weaknesses of old men NOT intended to “excuse abuse [and] implicate the victims?”
They also say:
We hope that these unfortunate statements will not overshadow the great good Fr. Benedict has done in housing countless homeless people, feeding innumerable poor families, and bringing healing, peace and encouragement to so many.
They might as well have replaced their entire “apology” with this sentence, which reflects what seems to be their main concern here – that is, Groeschel looking bad, and making them look bad.
Shari, do you have a life? Take your meds and go out for a walk.Maybe you’ll meet some normal people and you can see what they’re like.
says the dude who pretends to be autistic on the internet for attention
There are too many people living in fantasy worlds from those pua’s to the girls on here. The internet is not real
I never said that I was autistic. So you’re a biased ableist too!
Haha well done Sharculese. It’s totally him.
When you consider that about 1% of the population is homosexual and that all of these cases involved boys then NWO does make a good case that some people have less control over their impulses and it likely stems from the same brain dysfunction as homosexuality.
Um…no. There are so many false assumptions in this statement, and so much faulty logic, that I don’t even know where to begin. Seriously, Rumpole, if this is your idea of reasoning, then it’s a wonder you even know how to tie your shoes.
lacking dignity isnt a disability, msn
MSN is the boringest of the boring.
Rumpole, are you talking about the sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church? Because no, they do not all involve priests molesting boys. A large number do, and those are the ones getting the most media attention, but many of the victims were/are girls. There are also a number of cases of priests raping and molesting adults.
So, wait: the guy who is telling Sharl to take his meds is now accusing him of being ableist?
NWO has been consistent in his opinion that pedorasty is only wrong when committed by gay people. When a straight man molests a girl, it’s the girl’s fault for being so sexy, and when a straight woman molests a boy, it’s awesome.
Stay classy, sockpuppet!!
Shaenon-stop being absurd. Straight men do not fiddle around with boys and the cases ivolving a female child are rare.
no one ever accused msn of not being an idiot
katz-if you’re bored you are free to leave. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. The world does not revolve around you.
I have never met such prejudiced stupid persons.
Noms or no, this is some of the shittiest trolling I’ve seen in ages.
bye bye
Hey, someone other than MSN want to give an opinion?
Do you think stories about Westerners who are interested in non-Western cultures are inherently culturally appropriative bullshit, or does it depend on the story?
bye bye
Absolute worst flounce ever. 0/10.
A lot of people seem to confuse orientation with action. For example, there are plenty of gay people who marry and have kids with people of the opposite sex. This does not make them straight, as they still are primarily attracted to people of the same sex. A person who molests children may be primarily attracted to adults of either sex or not attracted to adults at all. To say that a priest who molests boys is necessarily gay (same sex adult attraction), and therefore gay men are more likely to be child molesters, requires some gigantic leaps of logic. Attributing homosexuality to some sort of unspecified brain dysfunction that also impairs impulse control takes us well into the realm of fantasy.
Calling everything trolling is just a stupid excuse because you’re too dumb to answer. People who call others troll are just boring morons.
MSN or Pell… The trolls kind of blend after a while.
Capt the only one who is confused is YOU. You need to get out into the real world and stop hanging out with the other dozen confused people her because you only reinforce each others psychosis.
Long story short: Rumpole, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.