Some misogynists seem to have a really difficult time telling the difference between consensual kinkiness and domestic violence. Over on the Happier Abroad forums, our old friend Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) – who doesn’t really seem to be all that happy, honestly – tells the fellows about a woman he recently met. (Note: the faux ellipses in the quotes to follow are all from the original.)
I am now able to look a woman in the eyes, even from some distance, and know if she is a decent woman or not. I only developed this two years or so ago and have only had it happen 4 times. I am not saying that it is ONLY these women who are decent women….I am saying that the 4 this has happened to turned out to be pretty good women…
By a “pretty good woman” he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does:
when asking about my view of women I have been absolutely straightforward and to the point….her response “AT LAST…..a man who really knows what we are like….that makes me feel so much better because I do not have to worry about trying to present myself as I am not…..you already really know what we are like!”
She is HAPPY that I describe women as mostly liars and manipulators who try to get men to do what they want…..it is a RELIEF for her to meet such a man…..how about that?
And, even better, she likes to be spanked!
she openly says that she felt that if we were together with her strong personality she would be likely to provoke me and try to hurt me emotionally…..to which I replied “if you are naughty I will put you over my knee and spank you”..to which she replied “and I shall be naughty to make sure I am spanked”.
I was telling this new lady I met about this and how I had spanked my daughter when she was willful and naughty as well as my fav#1……she almost SWOONED at the idea of being spanked for being naughty….It was as clear as day she was very interested in getting herself spanked for being naughty…..I noticed this and pointed it out….she tried to deny it.
Uh, if she just told you she wanted to “be naughty to make sure” she’d be spanked, why would she deny this a minute later?
Somehow I suspect that this conversation didn’t transpire exactly as Mr. Nolan says it did.
In any case, our intrepid storyteller moves on to elaborate on his perverse (and not in a good way) sexualized defense of child abuse:
I said to her “it is completely normal for a girl to want to provoke her father into needing to spank her, once he does she knows he is big and strong and will protect her and provide for her….she feel more comfortable, more secure, and she will often cuddle up to her father and feel very good towards him after being spanked….my daughter did that all the time…..I bet you did that with your father too…..
And then on to a defense of violence against women:
This need does not go away just because the girl becomes a woman…..she still needs to provoke her man and he still needs to spank her so that she feels he is strong and powerful and can protect and provide for her……that is how women are.
Apparently men can’t truly “bond” with women without hitting them:
This is why it is such a disaster to say “never hit women”…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking. It destroys her ability to feel the security of protector and provider….something she needs…indeed….it is so insane now they call that “domestic violence” and the man can go to jail for doing what the woman needs to be done for her.”
She just shook her head and said “you are so right”……I am wondering if we will see much more of each other.
I certainly hope not.
Happily, there’s every reason to believe that this conversation is a product of Nolan’s imagination; he seems to live in a world all his own.
NOTE: Thanks to Sandra in the comments for pointing me to this horrible comment.
EDITED TO ADD: Mr. Nolan (c) has responded in the comments here, and over on Happier Abroad in more detail. Apparently I totally misrepresented him because I wasn’t able to figure out from his badly written comment that he was talking about two different women who loved being spanked. Also, because I mentioned his name with the weird punctuation , he thinks I am “subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.” (You see, Mr. Nolan (c) has set up his own international court system in his own head, in which mentioning his name with that little copyright symbol attached to it apparently means that you owe him lots of gold.) I haven’t read all of his comments; I’m afraid I’ll end up owing him even more gold if I do.
“The baby chick brain bleach caused me to be accosted by my cat.”
Second this, only replace “cat” with “son.” And he didn’t want to eat the chicks, he wanted to sit in my lap and watch the video four times in a row while he pointed at the animals and laughed. Hard work, being a mom 🙂
Is it just me or does “PA:N(c)” look like “PANIC”? I keep reading it as “PANIC”.
Also, watch as I add stupid punctuation to my screen-name.
(re-ative! Wri’ting $t,ud*en?t (c). 😛
Lol this made my day.
“Is it just me or does ‘PA:N(c)’ look like ‘PANIC’? I keep reading it as ‘PANIC’.”
Yes. And then my brain immediately jumps to Panic! at the Disco.
Creative Writing Student: Yeah, I thought the same thing. Then I thought it might be quite apt, considering if the guy started talking to you in person that’s probably what you’d feel. 😛
Clearly, Voldemort was defeated because he let ladies be Death Eaters. Bellatrix Lestrange and Alecto Carrow should have stayed in the kitchen with the house-elves, where they belonged.
I read it as PANIC too.
The argument from that idiot above whose name escapes me who said that Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) is not mainstream MRM so his voice should be discounted is an interesting one. Exactly where do these fools draw the line? Who are the legitimate MRA’s? Which MRA’s speak for everyone in the movement? Nolan’s view is dangerous and endemic and smacks of the dwindling control that PANIC merchants of the MRA are happy to adopt. If you read his story, Nolan physically abused his wife. She called the cops and he was charged. After many years of marriage and abuse she ended up leaving him. She had two children from a previous marriage and had two children with Nolan. He started property settlement proceedings with a lawyer. When he discovered that he would not be getting 100% of the property settlement because he worked really really really hard and his wife only worked part time for money and spent the rest of her time looking after four children and a husband and a home for free – at home (by the way she was getting child support regularly from her first husband) She obviously wasn’t contributing as much money to the mortgage as loopy pete was and because money means everything in the MRA movement, loopy decides that he is suddenly an ALL CAPS (SOVEREIGN:CITIZEN(C) so when he rolls up to court and the judge asks how much money have you earned? Nolan unwisely and continually refuses to advise the judge how much he has earned that year. Because he had earned a shit load of money the year before, the judge can only assume that he earned the same amount that year and makes a 70%/30% split in favour of Mrs. Nolan who is looking after 4 kids on her own without any child support. Nolan proceeds to disown his own minor children to avoid paying child support. Today he harrasses them on facebook and email (for certs they have him blocked) advising them that they OWE HIM MONEY because now that they are over 18 they need to DENOUNCE THEIR MOTHER AS A CRIMINAL and if they don’t do this Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) will withdraw his protection over them and they will suffer SUMMARY JUSTICE. This means death. This guy is a real piece of work. His ex wife and children are in hiding. Any bad publicity of this nutjob is helpful. Thank you David. Much appreciated
FYI, the Nike swoosh is probably a registered trademark, and trademark law is a lot tougher than copyright protections, which have built-in exceptions for fair use. I’m not sure there are any allowances for use of a trademark outside of news reporting. I know using someone’s TM can cause serious legal problems.
Also, copyright exists the moment an idea is expressed in a fixed medium including typed and saved on a computer, but it doesn’t extend to individual words, which is why the name Kleenex wasa TM, not under copyright, which didn’t prevent the word Kleenex from becoming vernacular for tissues.
Whoa… saying this to NWOslave. You’re brave. Very, very brave.
Anyone else indulging in a daydream where Mr. Sovereign Citizen gets in trouble abroad and the U.S. embassy refuses to help him?
Though, sadly, I’m not sure if it would actually work that way. Is declaring yourself a sovereign citizen the same as renouncing your U.S. citizenship? Seems to me that it would be – if you refuse to acknowledge the laws of a nation, you should also not expect to benefit from its protection. Anyone else know for sure?
Ugh, this asshole sounds like exactly the type of predatory poser that creates endless trouble for actual BDSM practitioners, and probably has a more muddled understanding of it than I hear those “50 Shades” book presents.
Did … did Slavey seriously just go “Amnesty … International, you say?” [strokes chin] ??
@Sandra:
We have asked. Every time someone comes into the comments saying “you’re just cherrypicking!” or “Paul Elam is an extremist!” or something like that they get all kinds of regulars asking them, then who is a moderate MRA? Where do they hang out?
No one ever answers that question.
Also, re: (s)p-a:n(c)’s history — Holy Christ I did not know he threatens his children over email. I am not surprised, though, plenty of white men have threatened similar things, including (my favorite) if you don’t go to church and/or don’t give money to pastors, the guy they’re asking you to like is going to hurt you forever after you die (the foregoing is not meant to be a universal declaration of the religious experience).
he is actually australian and has already not allowed back in a couple of countries. it’s been a while since i heard anything but last i knew he was on the verge of getting kicked out of germany
@Sharculese – Guess the U.S. embassy would be of no use to him under any circumstances, then. Thanks!
I don’t really give a rat’s ass if Dear Peter is a “true” MRA or not. I care that he’s a child abuser, and a partner abuser. I care that he’s a raging misogynist. Don’t want us to associate you with the P-A:N(c)s of the world? How about taking some time to actually denounce their ideas. You get really pissed off when you feel your movement is being connected to someone with an extremely bad reputation, but you’ve given no indication that you think that bad reputation is deserved, or that what he’s done is wrong.
Yes. And then my brain immediately jumps to Panic! at the Disco.
Aaand now I’m watching Panic at the Disco music videos. Is it just me, or does their lead singer look like Mystery?
No…I am not going to make comment here. Mangina Manboobz practices censorship and therefore does not earn the privilege of my presence.
I have put my comments over here.
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15550&highlight=
And yes…since mangina manboobz used my copyrighted calling without my agreement in writing, and clearly knows he did because he copied the copyright symbol…he is subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.
Since he made such a hash of the article I do not think I will bother….but I retain the right to change my mind on that…so mangina manboobz can have a very large debt to me any time I choose. What is he going to do. Argue he is so stupid he does not know what a copyright symbol means?
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15550&highlight=
PsychoDan | September 1, 2012 at 5:24 am
“Nolan is a ‘Sovereign Citizen’, as they call themselves, a mixed group of conspiracy theorists and con artists who claim that some combination of the 14th amendment and the Universal Commercial Code make them not actually citizens of the United States, and therefore not bound by its laws, but only the common law (a concept they badly misunderstand).”
Gee. NONE of that is true. I have NEVER called myself a “sovereign citizen”. If I am a “con artist” I am doing a terrible job giving all the information I have created away for FREE at a person cost of nearly USD500,000 to collect it.
You people are so full of fail. You simply can not address facts. This is why I do not bother talking to feminists and their mangina lackeys….they elevate opinions to facts and denigrate facts to opinions.
You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.
http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/Downloads.aspx
Much better father/daughter dynamic here:
Re dogs-there are plenty of ways to be assertive and even dominant with dogs that do not involve hitting. Physical confrontation is often a sign of breakdown of pack dynamics among dogs, settled packs in their own territory rarely have serious physical altercations.
Also, humans are not dogs, this includes human children. I forget who it was who said it to me, but I remember someone saying ‘I’m not raising my child to be a good dog, I’m raising them to be a good adult.’
Oh..just by the way mangina manboobz. If you do not practice your usual censorship and allow this link you will see my wife ADMIT to child abuse and you will see her BEGGING me to take her back. This is HER email. I did not make this up…spelling mistakes and all.
How many men are such good husbands that after knowing a man for THIRTY TWO YEARS that she is BEGGING HIM to take her back and ADMITTING that all the issues in the marriage were HER responsibility for being willful and being a bully.
The reason I was CHOSEN to write the book Living Free is that the book had to come from someone who was BEYOND REPROACH. A man who had lived an IMPECCABLE LIFE.
A man who was hugely respected and admired in his society. Only by the unjust criminal victimisation and continued unjust spewing of hatred against such a man could Living Free be brought into existence with credibility.
You are actually doing men a service by hating on me mangina manboobz. Because there is absolutely no basis on which to hate on me apart from your own projection of your own hatred.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums2/tabid/369/forumid/216/threadid/1046/scope/posts/Default.aspx
I don’t know, because when I first encountered Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) at various sites, other self-identified MRAs couldn’t pander enough to him as they vied for a pat on the head from the mighty Globalman.