Some misogynists seem to have a really difficult time telling the difference between consensual kinkiness and domestic violence. Over on the Happier Abroad forums, our old friend Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) – who doesn’t really seem to be all that happy, honestly – tells the fellows about a woman he recently met. (Note: the faux ellipses in the quotes to follow are all from the original.)
I am now able to look a woman in the eyes, even from some distance, and know if she is a decent woman or not. I only developed this two years or so ago and have only had it happen 4 times. I am not saying that it is ONLY these women who are decent women….I am saying that the 4 this has happened to turned out to be pretty good women…
By a “pretty good woman” he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does:
when asking about my view of women I have been absolutely straightforward and to the point….her response “AT LAST…..a man who really knows what we are like….that makes me feel so much better because I do not have to worry about trying to present myself as I am not…..you already really know what we are like!”
She is HAPPY that I describe women as mostly liars and manipulators who try to get men to do what they want…..it is a RELIEF for her to meet such a man…..how about that?
And, even better, she likes to be spanked!
she openly says that she felt that if we were together with her strong personality she would be likely to provoke me and try to hurt me emotionally…..to which I replied “if you are naughty I will put you over my knee and spank you”..to which she replied “and I shall be naughty to make sure I am spanked”.
I was telling this new lady I met about this and how I had spanked my daughter when she was willful and naughty as well as my fav#1……she almost SWOONED at the idea of being spanked for being naughty….It was as clear as day she was very interested in getting herself spanked for being naughty…..I noticed this and pointed it out….she tried to deny it.
Uh, if she just told you she wanted to “be naughty to make sure” she’d be spanked, why would she deny this a minute later?
Somehow I suspect that this conversation didn’t transpire exactly as Mr. Nolan says it did.
In any case, our intrepid storyteller moves on to elaborate on his perverse (and not in a good way) sexualized defense of child abuse:
I said to her “it is completely normal for a girl to want to provoke her father into needing to spank her, once he does she knows he is big and strong and will protect her and provide for her….she feel more comfortable, more secure, and she will often cuddle up to her father and feel very good towards him after being spanked….my daughter did that all the time…..I bet you did that with your father too…..
And then on to a defense of violence against women:
This need does not go away just because the girl becomes a woman…..she still needs to provoke her man and he still needs to spank her so that she feels he is strong and powerful and can protect and provide for her……that is how women are.
Apparently men can’t truly “bond” with women without hitting them:
This is why it is such a disaster to say “never hit women”…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking. It destroys her ability to feel the security of protector and provider….something she needs…indeed….it is so insane now they call that “domestic violence” and the man can go to jail for doing what the woman needs to be done for her.”
She just shook her head and said “you are so right”……I am wondering if we will see much more of each other.
I certainly hope not.
Happily, there’s every reason to believe that this conversation is a product of Nolan’s imagination; he seems to live in a world all his own.
NOTE: Thanks to Sandra in the comments for pointing me to this horrible comment.
EDITED TO ADD: Mr. Nolan (c) has responded in the comments here, and over on Happier Abroad in more detail. Apparently I totally misrepresented him because I wasn’t able to figure out from his badly written comment that he was talking about two different women who loved being spanked. Also, because I mentioned his name with the weird punctuation , he thinks I am “subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.” (You see, Mr. Nolan (c) has set up his own international court system in his own head, in which mentioning his name with that little copyright symbol attached to it apparently means that you owe him lots of gold.) I haven’t read all of his comments; I’m afraid I’ll end up owing him even more gold if I do.
Steele, is anything PA:N(c)’s saying here any worse than “The Necessity of Domestic Violence”? Or are you kicking Bardamu and GWW (and a healthy chunk of r/mr) out of the Movement now too?
Here, I’ll do it again: you are basing your life on a movement whose primary goal is glorifying rapists and child abusers, and you think this makes you smart.
You are simply incorrect in your words on the MRM, and I will not continue to engage you while you make your unfounded and slanderous comments. Goodbye.
Burgeoning. Steele, you’ve been using a thesaurus! So proud right now! *wipes tear from eye*
Laughage is actually kind of an awesome word, in a Clockwork Orange self-generated language kind of way.
I forgot to quote Says’ comment in my penultimate comment – for the record.
Ugh, I’m going to make a point to use laughage in like, my next three sentences.
Paul Elam wants there to be no punishment for rape in the United States. The whole MRM believe that it was wrong to take the children away from child abuser Thomas Ball.
This is the only consistent feature of your movement.
RESULT!
Steele, I thought you were disengaging from this vile place because of the slanderous laughage. BTW, you may want to look up “slanderous,” your usage is wrong, as usual.
Shouldn’t it be “deniage of misandry?”
Steele it is you who are the jester’s fool.
And there was much laughage throughout the land….
p.s. Steele HAS to be a Poe.
Hey everyone, read steele’s post that begins with “morally banckrupt slander” while hearing Clint Eastwood’s voice in your head — specifically when he did the chair bit at the GOP conference in Tampa. It’s totally hilarious!!!! Thanks for the laugh, dude!
Okay Steele, I’m gonna ask you a question I’ve asked people many times and have never received an answer to: If there really are reasonable MRAs that aren’t rape, child abuse and DV apologists, then WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?
I am laughageing so hard right now
@cloudiah
What makes you sure? I mean, he kinda seems like it, but he is a poe that has spent a lot of time here. I’m just wondering if I missed something.
Men CAN’T be spanked, for the same reason that they can’t sit on HARD CHAIRS.
But who is the jester’s fool’s buffoon’s joker’s clown?
Steele fought heroically against reportage,
and also anti-man vile laughage,
misandry deniage,
bags of sand for leverage.
The rest of us thought, “He needs more roughage.”
Morally bankrupt slander, that’s all you’re good for. You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand. That’s what this whole apparatus is all about, when you get right down to it – it’s in the service of evil.
Forsooth, Mr. Steele! If the cap fits, should one not wear it? There are a great many evils in the world, sir, many which occur outside of electronic boxes and fevered imaginations. The great Movements of our times have long refused to be buried; are you saying that with the mere application of shovel to dirt, the Men’s Rights Movement will lie in a shallow grave, ne’er to be seen again? I hardly find that to be an excellent endorsement to your cause.
@Ugh, I just can’t believe anyone can be that obtuse, in such a hilarious and weird way.
@cloudiah
Yeah, that’s true.
For those who were communists as students – remember when you’d see propaganda posters from Russia or China that had been poorly translated by someone who wasn’t very good with words in general? That’s what Steele’s rhetorical style reminds me of.
“Much ownership of the means of production.”
Actually, reading steele’s posts in the voice of Yoda works too.
I feel like doing that would just ruin Yoda for me. I can’t let that happen.