Some misogynists seem to have a really difficult time telling the difference between consensual kinkiness and domestic violence. Over on the Happier Abroad forums, our old friend Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) – who doesn’t really seem to be all that happy, honestly – tells the fellows about a woman he recently met. (Note: the faux ellipses in the quotes to follow are all from the original.)
I am now able to look a woman in the eyes, even from some distance, and know if she is a decent woman or not. I only developed this two years or so ago and have only had it happen 4 times. I am not saying that it is ONLY these women who are decent women….I am saying that the 4 this has happened to turned out to be pretty good women…
By a “pretty good woman” he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does:
when asking about my view of women I have been absolutely straightforward and to the point….her response “AT LAST…..a man who really knows what we are like….that makes me feel so much better because I do not have to worry about trying to present myself as I am not…..you already really know what we are like!”
She is HAPPY that I describe women as mostly liars and manipulators who try to get men to do what they want…..it is a RELIEF for her to meet such a man…..how about that?
And, even better, she likes to be spanked!
she openly says that she felt that if we were together with her strong personality she would be likely to provoke me and try to hurt me emotionally…..to which I replied “if you are naughty I will put you over my knee and spank you”..to which she replied “and I shall be naughty to make sure I am spanked”.
I was telling this new lady I met about this and how I had spanked my daughter when she was willful and naughty as well as my fav#1……she almost SWOONED at the idea of being spanked for being naughty….It was as clear as day she was very interested in getting herself spanked for being naughty…..I noticed this and pointed it out….she tried to deny it.
Uh, if she just told you she wanted to “be naughty to make sure” she’d be spanked, why would she deny this a minute later?
Somehow I suspect that this conversation didn’t transpire exactly as Mr. Nolan says it did.
In any case, our intrepid storyteller moves on to elaborate on his perverse (and not in a good way) sexualized defense of child abuse:
I said to her “it is completely normal for a girl to want to provoke her father into needing to spank her, once he does she knows he is big and strong and will protect her and provide for her….she feel more comfortable, more secure, and she will often cuddle up to her father and feel very good towards him after being spanked….my daughter did that all the time…..I bet you did that with your father too…..
And then on to a defense of violence against women:
This need does not go away just because the girl becomes a woman…..she still needs to provoke her man and he still needs to spank her so that she feels he is strong and powerful and can protect and provide for her……that is how women are.
Apparently men can’t truly “bond” with women without hitting them:
This is why it is such a disaster to say “never hit women”…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking. It destroys her ability to feel the security of protector and provider….something she needs…indeed….it is so insane now they call that “domestic violence” and the man can go to jail for doing what the woman needs to be done for her.”
She just shook her head and said “you are so right”……I am wondering if we will see much more of each other.
I certainly hope not.
Happily, there’s every reason to believe that this conversation is a product of Nolan’s imagination; he seems to live in a world all his own.
NOTE: Thanks to Sandra in the comments for pointing me to this horrible comment.
EDITED TO ADD: Mr. Nolan (c) has responded in the comments here, and over on Happier Abroad in more detail. Apparently I totally misrepresented him because I wasn’t able to figure out from his badly written comment that he was talking about two different women who loved being spanked. Also, because I mentioned his name with the weird punctuation , he thinks I am “subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.” (You see, Mr. Nolan (c) has set up his own international court system in his own head, in which mentioning his name with that little copyright symbol attached to it apparently means that you owe him lots of gold.) I haven’t read all of his comments; I’m afraid I’ll end up owing him even more gold if I do.
Of course, no true MRA would ever say the things than Peter Andrew Nolan says. I don’t blame you for trying to distance yourself from him, but like it or not, he’s an MRA.
This is both/and, not either/or. Nolan is both an MRA AND a seriously disturbed individual.
Your Movement* seems to have quite a few of those.
(*I still want to know why “movement” is capitalized in Steele-land.)
Excuse me? I do not know of this Peter Andrew Nolan that you speak of, the original post clearly came from one Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c). Have you no respect, you vile Steelepole?
I capitalize Movement because, as others have noted, it is the social justice movement of the millennium. Thus, the Movement.
Regardless, the MRM doesn’t hand out credentials. Nolan can call himself an MRA if he wants; however, to build a post around him as if he were a mainstream fixture in the Movement is the height of disingenuity. But then I wouldn’t expect anything more from the vile, disgusting community that has made a hobby out of laughing at men’s issues and denying misandry.
Really, isn’t being a disturbed individual kind of a given for anyone in a hate movement?
It’s kind of like saying that a person who doesn’t eat meat has unfortunately attached himself to the vegetarian movement.
Really? Wow, I had no idea we’ve already fixed racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and the host of other issues going on. Guys, try to get the memos out more timely will ya!
I strongly feel that Android rights is going to take that title.
Excuse me?
Oh, like Tom Martin was? The guy who is you’re trying to get as your new bff?
Bravely addressing the vile fact that men aren’t allowed to beat their wives any more! Truly the social justice movement of the millennium.
(Even if it was, there’s still no need to capitalize it.)
Really, isn’t being a disturbed individual kind of a given for anyone in a hate movement?
Morally bankrupt slander, that’s all you’re good for. You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand. That’s what this whole apparatus is all about, when you get right down to it – it’s in the service of evil.
Slander = bags of sand? Which are often used during events like floods for entirely non-evil purposes?
Bravely addressing the vile fact that men aren’t allowed to beat their wives any more!
More slander from intelletcually and morally bankrupt feminists; as I’ve said, Nolan is no mainstream MRA.
Haha is bags of sand the new jesters fool? Or maybe “services of evil” is the new vile.
FTFY
Here, I’ll do it again: you are basing your life on a movement whose primary goal is glorifying rapists and child abusers, and you think this makes you smart.
See? Words, not sand.
Steele, are you just fucking with us, or are you really that delusional? At this rate you’re going to end up No True Scotsmanning your entire “Movement” out of existence, save yourself.
Oh wait I was wrong “slander” and “morally bankrupt” seem to be the new catchphrases. Oops.
Paul Elam’s primary political position is that rape should be de facto legal. Is he also not a mainstream MRA?
And for fuck’s sake, “…in the service of evil.”? You pompous twit.
I actually can’t decide whether Steele is just a poe fucking with us. If it was any other policial position we were mocking, I would say he’s so over the top he must be fake. But the whole MRM is just so ridiculous that no amount of pompous idiocy is totally beyond the pale.
Slander = bags of sand? Which are often used during events like floods for entirely non-evil purposes?
The MRM is small right now – burgeoning, as I’ve said, on blogs and websites like A Voice for Men and Reddit Men’s Rights. The feminist apparatus, on the other hand, is enormous, culturally accepted and practically universal in its permeation throughout society. It’s safe – politically correct, you might say. It takes no bravery to identify as a feminist – you’re the mainstream, the safe ones. No one will give you grief for being a feminist. But the MRM is different. We’re the ones on the edge, the ones pushing society to be something different – something better. And as is always true with trailblazers, they’re smaller. They’re more vulnerable.
Boobzland is the avatar of the mainstream – that is, the feminist apparatus – attempting to silence – to suffocate – a smaller human rights movement under dishonest reportage, laughage at men and men’s issues, and denial of misandry. A bag of sand is a fine metaphor for the situation.
“laughage?”
HAHAHAHA
Steele, you might want to read up on the GOP platform. Let me know if you think any feminists were involved in drafting that monstrosity.
And again, you are not a movement. You are a bunch of guys talking about how great it would be if there were no consequences for rape and child abuse. You’re small because most people oppose rape and child abuse.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The only movement the MRM has anything in common with are bowel movements.
I wish that was true….
If this was blog mainstream then people would know about your tiny group. XD
And to be honest, people not liking rape and child abuse not something that will change in the near future. So, I think your chances of being a major social movement are pretty slim.