Some misogynists seem to have a really difficult time telling the difference between consensual kinkiness and domestic violence. Over on the Happier Abroad forums, our old friend Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) – who doesn’t really seem to be all that happy, honestly – tells the fellows about a woman he recently met. (Note: the faux ellipses in the quotes to follow are all from the original.)
I am now able to look a woman in the eyes, even from some distance, and know if she is a decent woman or not. I only developed this two years or so ago and have only had it happen 4 times. I am not saying that it is ONLY these women who are decent women….I am saying that the 4 this has happened to turned out to be pretty good women…
By a “pretty good woman” he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does:
when asking about my view of women I have been absolutely straightforward and to the point….her response “AT LAST…..a man who really knows what we are like….that makes me feel so much better because I do not have to worry about trying to present myself as I am not…..you already really know what we are like!”
She is HAPPY that I describe women as mostly liars and manipulators who try to get men to do what they want…..it is a RELIEF for her to meet such a man…..how about that?
And, even better, she likes to be spanked!
she openly says that she felt that if we were together with her strong personality she would be likely to provoke me and try to hurt me emotionally…..to which I replied “if you are naughty I will put you over my knee and spank you”..to which she replied “and I shall be naughty to make sure I am spanked”.
I was telling this new lady I met about this and how I had spanked my daughter when she was willful and naughty as well as my fav#1……she almost SWOONED at the idea of being spanked for being naughty….It was as clear as day she was very interested in getting herself spanked for being naughty…..I noticed this and pointed it out….she tried to deny it.
Uh, if she just told you she wanted to “be naughty to make sure” she’d be spanked, why would she deny this a minute later?
Somehow I suspect that this conversation didn’t transpire exactly as Mr. Nolan says it did.
In any case, our intrepid storyteller moves on to elaborate on his perverse (and not in a good way) sexualized defense of child abuse:
I said to her “it is completely normal for a girl to want to provoke her father into needing to spank her, once he does she knows he is big and strong and will protect her and provide for her….she feel more comfortable, more secure, and she will often cuddle up to her father and feel very good towards him after being spanked….my daughter did that all the time…..I bet you did that with your father too…..
And then on to a defense of violence against women:
This need does not go away just because the girl becomes a woman…..she still needs to provoke her man and he still needs to spank her so that she feels he is strong and powerful and can protect and provide for her……that is how women are.
Apparently men can’t truly “bond” with women without hitting them:
This is why it is such a disaster to say “never hit women”…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking. It destroys her ability to feel the security of protector and provider….something she needs…indeed….it is so insane now they call that “domestic violence” and the man can go to jail for doing what the woman needs to be done for her.”
She just shook her head and said “you are so right”……I am wondering if we will see much more of each other.
I certainly hope not.
Happily, there’s every reason to believe that this conversation is a product of Nolan’s imagination; he seems to live in a world all his own.
NOTE: Thanks to Sandra in the comments for pointing me to this horrible comment.
EDITED TO ADD: Mr. Nolan (c) has responded in the comments here, and over on Happier Abroad in more detail. Apparently I totally misrepresented him because I wasn’t able to figure out from his badly written comment that he was talking about two different women who loved being spanked. Also, because I mentioned his name with the weird punctuation , he thinks I am “subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.” (You see, Mr. Nolan (c) has set up his own international court system in his own head, in which mentioning his name with that little copyright symbol attached to it apparently means that you owe him lots of gold.) I haven’t read all of his comments; I’m afraid I’ll end up owing him even more gold if I do.
@cloudiah:
If he doesn’t come back or respond, the default situation will be that I handed his butt to him in legal-fu. I think that’s how things work in his universe… you get to arbitrarily decide what rules people who ignore you have to play by.
naw kirbywarp see he’s immune to your legal-fu because this whole thing where he brings lawsuits against people is after he overthrows the existing court system and installs a new one where copyright works the way he wants it to.
I’m kind of excited about this idea of establishing your own court system and then sending letters out to Senators and other politicians informing them that their courts lack jurisdiction cuz I and my courts decided, and we are the deciders.
Feminism gets wind of this and the abuser lobby, rapists, and batterers are gonna be in the deep yoghurt.
@inurashii:
… huh. I’d love to see how that works. Maybe Petey thinks that if he just brings his A++ game to the supreme court, they’ll just bow out.
“You know, now that you mention it, Peter, we are kind of a satanic cartel, aren’t we? Heh heh, wow. Criminal, even! You got us, good job. I guess we should dismantle our entire system and put you in charge now. Alright everyone, pack it up!”
Because even a satanic criminal cartel will obey imaginary laws with no enforcement, stepping down from their position of power.
To the ASIO agents here:
Peter Nolan has decided to leave Happier Abroad and stop posting there. See announcement here:
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=98273#98273
Now will you guys please stop spam attacking our forum?
Thanks.
He’s gone back to his own festering turd of a site and requested that his “men” there come over here and bully you on his behalf because he’s too much of a coward to stand up to logic himself. Won’t happen though because he has no actual members on his site – well not ones that aren’t under lights out orders at the local psyche ward facility. He’ll probably come back pretending to be someone else. Lonesome loser loopy Pete.
And speaking of being banned from sites, old loop’s been banned from every MRA site in the land – including the charming Spearhead site. Even they find him distasteful and insane. The only site that puts up with him now is Winny Wu’s Happier Abroad site. This is purely because Winny Wu gets money out of the old loop. Poor old lonely easily extortable loopy Pete.
Mental illness does not cause misogyny.
I tried to post this on Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)’s latest youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiAjCgs96c but he only allows for comments that he “approves” of so… Maybe this will be of use to you.
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I sure that saying the following will probably get me labeled as a “Mangina” or whatever else MRA’s call people they don’t like but whatever I’m going to say it anyway. Heck, I’ll admit that I’m an egalitarian who see’s probablems on both sides of the gender war. But please don’t glaze over me yet! Read on (if this message hasn’t been removed.)
a) The Hobbs Act defines “extortion” as “the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.” 18 U.S.C. S 1951(b)(2).
Since child support laws are in effect (i.e. they exist and are currently in force), the judge can mandate that you pay child support or through you in jail because it isn’t considered wrongful by the people whom uphold child support laws, and it is the judge’s offical right *and duty*.
Which dissmisses your “summary justice” defence. At least as far as Judge is legally conserned.
b) Issuing a death threat is still a crime just the same, judge or not, and your sentence can be legthened for it. Not only that, but by issuing a death threat, you give law enforcment officals reason to invade your privacy and actively watch and track you.
On top of that, if you actually do get sent to jail for not paying child support, and go through with your threat, the new judge who precides over the case (your very likely to be caught since the authorities now have motive, and probably means since you would be tracked after your release.), would probably throw you in jail for life. Or order that you be put to death if the person is still a judge (and therefore a law enforcement official) after your release (in some states).
If your lucky. If not, you could be thrown in an asylum and held there indefinatly for this behaviour.
c) Most people don’t really care or give a shit if you call them a “gutless coward”. I’ve been called much worse myself. I honestly don’t see why you would even complain about being vilified by the MRM if your really this unstoppable badass anyway. Seems kind of petty to me.
d) You’ll get them out later down the line if they go to jail for this “remedy”? You’ve been at this for 5 years. What exactly do you think you’ll do to get those people out of jail after issuing death threats and attacking people?
And before you give me all kinds of shit for saying this stuff, I get it okay.
I understand that being in a situation where a person whom you loved and respected betrays like this is pretty shitty. I get that having money you’ve worked for, and property that you’ve worked for, and children that you love all get taken away from you is horrible.
I understand after all of that, you probably feel like you have nothing left to lose.
But understand that this “remedy” that this psychopath has offered you will only serve to give your state the legal right to suppress you.
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I’m sorry that I’m not posting my real name, but I don’t actually want to be tracked down for posting this so I’ll just sign it with my pseudonym.
Labtop_215
I don’t think you understood what the Nolan guy was actually saying. What he was describing is known in Psychology as Repetition Compulsion. Basically, when a person is traumatised, they tend to attempt to re-live their trauma by placing themselves in situations where it is likely to re-occur. So, a woman who was beaten as a child is likely to find a partner who also beats her in a similar way. (Usually, the trauma becomes sexualised as a fetish.) So, please don’t say that these women hate women, because they are most likely confused victims who have internalised their own abuse. Nolan is a psychopath for exploiting people’s most vulnerable and private weaknesses like that.
(a) I don’t see anyone here saying “these women hate women.”
(b) Not all people into consensual BDSM are working through childhood traumas.
(c) P-A:N(c) is a misogynist and an asshat, and I would recommend he seek therapy, but I am reluctant to try to diagnose him over the internet.
I’m pretty sure he’s saying that the only true way to bond with a woman is through spanking.
Pretty sure we only said that about Mr. at-the-disco, not about the women.
There’s ableism galore in there, but I think we both roughly agree that he treats women as things, not people. But that’s called misogyny.
Once again proving that anything Cloudiah can say succinctly, I can add a bunch of words to. 😛 Curses, ninjaed! Again!
I was referring to the person who wrote the article, not the people leaving comments. They clearly wrote “By a pretty good woman he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does.” That’s what I meant.
Also, I wasn’t using the term “psychopath” loosely. A psychopath is someone who is incapable of feeling empathy and remorse, someone who is unable to view others as human beings, and thus uses and exploits people for their own interests or pleasure.
yep, we’ve pretty much all watched Criminal Minds. It’s just that mot of us feel that isn’t enough to enable us to make medical diagnoses over the internet.
Why are the necro trolls always stone stupid?
Team Reed!
Sorry, I had to.
Also, most of a psych degree, like, I need three gen eds to complete it, not qualified to make internet Dx’s.
I have never watched Criminal Minds, and psychopathy is not a medical diagnosis.
But it is an internet diagnosis here, and you should probably stop.
Seems to me that you’re the one who is stupid, since I just explained that psychopathy is not a medical term, and therefore what I said was not a diagnosis of any kind. Plus, you people seem to focus on the wrong aspect of this thing. What’s important is the misinterpretation of the repetition compulsion by the writer of this article, which is dismissed as misogyny, when it’s not.
You’re off to a swell start. You can’t even figure out that Nolan didn’t write this article, and that David, the blog owner, is who wrote this:
which is what you’re taking issue with.
But keep on keepin’ on, cupcake.
Using “you people” is always a brilliant rhetorical tactic.
Oh, go fuck yourself.
@noxteryn –
Dude, work on reading for comprehension.
The women David is referring to when he says
Are the women who (allegedly) say
and
A person who believes that women are mostly liars and manipulators hates women, it’s not that fuckin’ complicated.
Yep, well you kind of undermined that argument when you defined a psychopath as someone with antisocial personality disorder.