Men’s Rights Activists, I hate to have to break the news to you, but Roosh V, the rapey pickup guru I’ve been writing about a lot lately, is very disappointed in you and your so-called activism. In a sort-of followup to a post of his from several years back with the self-explanatory title “Men’s Rights Has Become A Euphemism For Sexual Loser,” Roosh lays into the “manginas” of the Men’s Rights movement, which he says isn’t really worthy of the name.
The biggest problem with MRAs is that they are not activists. They are pamphleteers. … They believe that one-thousand of them typing away and producing ten-thousand blog posts will change society. … [But] their movement hasn’t produced any results, only little online playgrounds where sad boys can sit in the sandbox and helplessly watch girls play with the cocky boys who understand the rules of the game.
He’s just getting going:
What political or social change have the men’s rights pamphleteers brought? Say MRP in one syllable. That’s the sound they make every time they sit down and hit publish on another one of their turd rants, giddy at the prospect of changing the world when a cup of strong coffee accomplishes more change to their actual turds. … They get the occasional snarky mention from Jezebel and think they’re accomplishing something when they’re actually being used as nothing more than fodder for female bemusement or page views … Even the feminists, their supposed mortal enemy, refuse to debate them on equal footing.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they go back to mostly ignoring you, with occasional time-outs for laughter.
Our dear friend Paul Elam gets a little namecheck:
The entire men’s rights non-movement can be boiled down to one middle-aged man named Paul Elam who is carrying the weight of a thousand pamphleteers on his suffering shoulders. That’s not activism, that’s following one dude’s blog. The difference they think they’re making by cheering the public outing of false rape accusers or “male shamers” is the same difference my sister makes when she reads an article in Cosmo.
Aw. I don’t think Elam is really going to appreciate having his blog compared to Cosmo. Just keep telling yourself: Any publicity is good publicity.
But wait a minute, you might find yourself saying, isn’t Roosh just a blogger himself? What possible difference has he made for the men of the world?
Ah, but Roosh has anticipated this objection, and so sets out explicitly what makes him different, and better, than the “sad boys” of the MR(non)M: Roosh fucks ladies who aren’t fat.
As he puts it:
I take personal action and encourage other men to do the same.
At the same time I was complaining that American girls are fat, I was blasting inside Polish girls with perfect bodies. I tell men how to sleep with such women.
At the same time I was whining about divorce rape, I was dating a Ukrainian girl who treated me like a king. I tell other men where to find women like her.
In Ukraine, perhaps?
And while Roosh improves the lives of men with the power of his penis, he is also doing his part to rescue the economy from its doldrums:
At the same time I complain that the American economy is in trouble, I was completing another book I knew my readers would like so that I could increase my income.
That’s right, selling ebooks to make yourself some cash is apparently the highest form of activism.
But he’s not done:
At the same time I was ranting against the Skrillex haircut, I was banging a Lithuanian girl whose hair belonged in a Vidal Sassoon shampoo commercial. I tell men how feminine women are like.
We commend Roosh for his courage and his humility, and his humanity-bettering strategy of pressuring drunk women into bed. Soon the Skrillex haircut will be nothing more than a scary memory.
But Roosh isn’t done with the Men’s Rightsers just yet. While he sets out to better himself and his penis, Roosh complains, the Men’s Rightsers want everything handed to them on a government-issue silver platter,
hoping the government will one day serve their interests and give them things that me and my readers are achieving on their own. I don’t need the government to pass laws against alimony. I simply won’t marry in the USA. I don’t need the government to pass laws promoting fair child custody laws. I won’t impregnate an America girl. I don’t need the government to increase punishment for false rape accusers. I’ll cover my own back. I don’t need the government to ban trans fat to lower the weight of the population. I’ll go to Poland.
What a hero! He continues:
In the same breath they call me a pussy beggar, they beg the government for protection from pussy.
That line is strangely Kennedyesque in its eloquence: “Beg not for what pussy your government can protect your from … .”
Before winding up his inspiring little manifesto, Roosh manages to namecheck a certain middle-aged Men’s Rightser once again:
Instead of listening to Paul Elam tell me that men are getting fucked, I will step out of the house and find a girl who wants to get fucked by me. … [MRAs] use their illusionary movement as an excuse to sit on their ass and be a loser at life.
I guess we’ll just have to wait to see if Elam takes the bait.
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On chocolate–most milk chocolates contain very little actual chocolate. Dark chocolates are more dangerous. Cooking cocoa is the biggest danger of all. If you have pets and cooking cocoa, be careful with that one.
On fat: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2006/04/03/the-case-against-weight-loss-dieting/ A good primer on diets not working and fat people really not eating any more than thin people. (this one’s more for the troll, but if you’re not familiar with this stuff, it’s a good read)
The odd thing is that cats aren’t supposed to be able to taste sweetness, but my cat would beg for chocolate. Could be because it tends to be very milky? He had no interest in dark chocolate, only very milky chocolate. Maybe he could smell the milk component.
He also loved ice cream (more than milk), and would try to eat any bits of muffin or cookie he could get at, so I’ve always been a bit suspicious of the whole they can’t taste sweetness thing.
British chocolate tends to be milky, I mean. I could leave a bar of scharffen berger out on the table and he had no apparent interest in that, or in chocolate cake.
Boy, Roosh sure does love him some bad analogies.
Also: wait, having sex with hot people affects social change? Sweet! And here I thought I had to, you know, do something not utterly self-focused.
On fat, here’s what I don’t get – even if you personally don’t find fat people sexually attractive, what does that have to do with their social worth? Why is the existence of people who you don’t want to fuck “socially corrosive”?
I mean, I have a sexual preference for people who tend towards the almost too skinny by American standards end of the scale, and that doesn’t lead me to see fat people as “socially corrosive”, so I’m not understanding how this particular train of logic is meant to work. Unless he just means that fat women are “socially corrosive”, because women are meant to be fuckdolls and he can’t grok the idea that not everyone has the same sexual preferences, whereas fat men are always fine regardless of sexual preferences because they’re actual people.
@cassandrasays: It’s also working from the (false) idea that fat people drive everybody’s health care costs up, and if you accept that being fat is a choice (false) then it’s a preventable health cost.
Cassandra Says:
I have to guard my ice cream from one of our kitties. He’ll slink around the table trying to get at it while I eat it and I have to shield my bowl with my arm. I blame my grandmother–she was his first owner, and used to feed him people food.
The men in my family (and many in my social group) tend to be on the heavy side. They’re all robustly healthy, they just hit the high end of the BMI. They also -to a person- have a shitload of negative body images. Fat-shaming goes both ways.
That’s what makes the notion that fat people are not only sexually unattractive and sub-human, but also socially corrosive, such a great concept. It’s universal! What a swell antidote to the irrational entitlement some people feel toward eating food and digesting it!
Poland is still culturally Catholic, and Ukraine’s Orthodox Christianity comes with some very similar baggage around sex and marriage (but with additional crowns).
This mix of guilt and rebellion that goes with earlier efforts at rejecting that kind of upbringing does bring about a slight tendency for people to deliberately shag arseholes as a one night thing. If it’s gonna be a sin then do it properly and without dragging anyone you actually like down with you. Maybe with a disposable foreign shithead that you’ll never have to see again.
Would like to think this as the main rationale behind any pick-ups and “bad boys” getting anywhere, ever, but for living in a society that’s far happier to promote and approve of sex as a lovelessly competitive event rather than simply making someone you like feel really, really good for a while.
And in a formerly Communist countries, loveless, competitive, capitalist sex also gets to be a cool thing that rebels do, turning such places into adventure playgrounds for awful people like Roosh.
What I want to know is what would happen if he was to find out he’s mostly just being used some kind of sexual purgative?
He’s too selfish for his partner’s intentions to even register, right? Or simply wouldn’t care because he had sex anyway and that’s all that counts. Otherwise that MRA whining about exploitative women might start to hit a nerve and fuck knows how that would pan out…
“An Inconvenient Truth” is frightened of big women having sex and thinks that society should be frightened by it too? Making them frighted of love and concerned that without intervention it may start spreading to others?
Inconvenient Truth is a minor villain from My Little Pony, yes? I’ve not seen the second series.
Care to explain how having sex or being overweight hurts society?
As far as I know there is no villain called that in mlp, I have no idea where you would get that idea. O_o
I think its a reference to the Al Gore movie An Inconvenient Truth, the truth being that men are secretly oppressed under feminist overlords.
My cats are the world’s most finicky cats. They won’t eat *anything* but their kibble. Not wet food, not salmon, not tuna, not nothing. Well, occasionally the dog’s kibble. I think it’s because we didn’t expose them to very much when they were little.
My lovebirds however, are no longer allowed out at breakfast time, because they will birdie dive bomb your cereal to get at the milk. You end up with a spoiled bowl of cheerios and a wet milky bird. Not a good combo!
@MGNW
I don’t think he is seriously in Poland shagging a bunch of women right now, I am almost 100% sure he is just bragging trying to make himself sound more “manly” and “cool” than he really is. I believe that as much as I believe he wrote all those posts while fucking women (I don’t).
@IT
But there is nothing wrong with having sex or being overweight, you also ignore that people are fat shamed/slut shamed all the time even if they have never had sex or are not overweight.
@jumbofisch: I think that MGNW was comparing Inconvenient’s actions to a MLP villain.
Note: “Making them frighted of love and concerned that without intervention it may start spreading to others?”
The Poles I know would laugh pretty fucking hard at this characterization of Polish women. Has he forgotten that former soviet territory is communist, and grew up with a lot of propaganda on the equality of women?
The thing is, US women in hetero relationships also tend to do most of the housework, cooking, and childcare, too. The only hetero relationships that tend to have a 50/50 split of housework is when women work full time and their husbands stay at home. When both partners work full time, it’s still the women who ends up doing more than her fair share.
The manosphere whiners are just mad that things are changing so that women that work full time outside the home are questioning this imbalance of responsibility. MRA’s question, ” Why won’t wives be cheerful about spending all day at a job, and then come home to bust their asses all night doing all the work and waiting on their husbands?” So they fantasize about finding women that are so poor, they are willing to accept being an unpaid maid that has to put up with an obnoxious douchebag. Oh, and they’ll also be very gracious when their husbands dump them for committing the crime of aging.
That’s why I feel zero sympathy for a guy that wants to buy a wife like he’d buy a pizza, and then she turns around and scams him for his money. He think its a tragedy to be used like that but sees no hypocrisy in trying to exploit her for being poor.
While society is horrible to fat people of all genders, they act the worst towards fat women. That’s because so many entitled dudes think that women owe it to them to be attractive, even women they have no intentions of dating or fucking. They want all women everywhere to look hot for them, and they think their standards of beauty are universal. I think this is also why creepers like to tell random women at grocery stores “Smile, honey”. They feel entitled to have women smile and act pretty for them.
Well, was communist. And I’m not saying women aren’t equal, but I was trying to distinguish the ideological claim from the reality of soviet management in a lot of cases; Yes, women are equal under marxism, but there’s always been assholes.
You’re welcome.
Do you have a source that knows something about anything, and isn’t a chronic liar?
Heartiste, twice?
Hmmm… Inconvenient Turd. You have no sources for anything.
That is all.
Wait, he’s seriously using Fartiste as a source?
Yep. With a “You’re Welcome.” As if he did us a big favor by letting us know what a garbage-brain full of un-facts he’s found.
@ An Inconvenient truth
Care to provide a peer reviewed source?
Or even a semi-credible periodical on the topic, heartiste isn’t what I’d call reputable.