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PUA douche Roosh V: Men’s Rights Activists “use their illusionary movement as an excuse to sit on their ass and be a loser at life.”

Roosh V, making the world a better place

Men’s Rights Activists, I hate to have to break the news to you, but Roosh V, the rapey pickup guru I’ve been writing about a lot lately, is very disappointed in you and your so-called activism. In a sort-of followup to a post of his from several years back with the self-explanatory title “Men’s Rights Has Become A Euphemism For Sexual Loser,” Roosh lays into the “manginas” of the Men’s Rights movement, which he says isn’t really worthy of the name.

The biggest problem with MRAs is that they are not activists. They are pamphleteers. … They believe that one-thousand of them typing away and producing ten-thousand blog posts will change society. … [But] their movement hasn’t produced any results, only little online playgrounds where sad boys can sit in the sandbox and helplessly watch girls play with the cocky boys who understand the rules of the game.

He’s just getting going:

What political or social change have the men’s rights pamphleteers brought? Say MRP in one syllable. That’s the sound they make every time they sit down and hit publish on another one of their turd rants, giddy at the prospect of changing the world when a cup of strong coffee accomplishes more change to their actual turds. …  They get the occasional snarky mention from Jezebel and think they’re accomplishing something when they’re actually being used as nothing more than fodder for female bemusement or page views … Even the feminists, their supposed mortal enemy, refuse to debate them on equal footing.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they go back to mostly ignoring you, with occasional time-outs for laughter.

Our dear friend Paul Elam gets a little namecheck:

The entire men’s rights non-movement can be boiled down to one middle-aged man named Paul Elam who is carrying the weight of a thousand pamphleteers on his suffering shoulders. That’s not activism, that’s following one dude’s blog. The difference they think they’re making by cheering the public outing of false rape accusers or “male shamers” is the same difference my sister makes when she reads an article in Cosmo.

Aw. I don’t think Elam is really going to appreciate having his blog compared to Cosmo. Just keep telling yourself: Any publicity is good publicity.

But wait a minute, you might find yourself saying, isn’t Roosh just a blogger himself? What possible difference has he made for the men of the world?

Ah, but Roosh has anticipated this objection, and so sets out explicitly what makes him different, and better, than the “sad boys” of the MR(non)M: Roosh fucks ladies who aren’t fat.

As he puts it:

I take personal action and encourage other men to do the same.

At the same time I was complaining that American girls are fat, I was blasting inside Polish girls with perfect bodies. I tell men how to sleep with such women.

At the same time I was whining about divorce rape, I was dating a Ukrainian girl who treated me like a king. I tell other men where to find women like her.

In Ukraine, perhaps?

And while Roosh improves the lives of men with the power of his penis, he is also doing his part to rescue the economy from its doldrums:

At the same time I complain that the American economy is in trouble, I was completing another book I knew my readers would like so that I could increase my income.

That’s right, selling ebooks to make yourself some cash is apparently the highest form of activism.

But he’s not done:

At the same time I was ranting against the Skrillex haircut, I was banging a Lithuanian girl whose hair belonged in a Vidal Sassoon shampoo commercial. I tell men how feminine women are like.

We commend Roosh for his courage and his humility, and his humanity-bettering strategy of pressuring drunk women into bed.  Soon the Skrillex haircut will be nothing more than a scary memory.

But Roosh isn’t done with the Men’s Rightsers just yet. While he sets out to better himself and his penis, Roosh complains, the Men’s Rightsers want everything handed to them on a government-issue silver platter,

hoping the government will one day serve their interests and give them things that me and my readers are achieving on their own. I don’t need the government to pass laws against alimony. I simply won’t marry in the USA. I don’t need the government to pass laws promoting fair child custody laws. I won’t impregnate an America girl. I don’t need the government to increase punishment for false rape accusers. I’ll cover my own back. I don’t need the government to ban trans fat to lower the weight of the population. I’ll go to Poland.

What a hero! He continues:

In the same breath they call me a pussy beggar, they beg the government for protection from pussy.

That line is strangely Kennedyesque in its eloquence: “Beg not for what pussy your government can protect your from … .”

Before winding up his inspiring little manifesto, Roosh manages to namecheck a certain middle-aged Men’s Rightser once again:

Instead of listening to Paul Elam tell me that men are getting fucked, I will step out of the house and find a girl who wants to get fucked by me. … [MRAs] use their illusionary movement as an excuse to sit on their ass and be a loser at life.

I guess we’ll just have to wait to see if Elam takes the bait.

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ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blaghag/2012/08/how-i-unwittingly-infiltrated-the-boys-club-why-its-time-for-a-new-wave-of-atheism/

Here’s the origin of the concept, if anyone who doesn’t already know about it is interested.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Some guy’s schtick is so funny. David, he’s really bored with you. He finds you so boring that he reads everything you write, every day. In fact, he finds you so boring that he really doesn’t care what you think. Which is why he keeps coming back and trying to convince both you and everyone else that you’re WRONG, DON’T YOU GET IT, TOTALLY WRONG about the MRM. Because he just finds you so dull.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

I like the Atheism+ movement already, and this thread is the first I’ve heard of it.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Me and Cat #1 played the same game this morning that we always play when it’s cereal for breakfast. He comes up pretending to be all cuddly, purring in my lap, all the while inching himself closer and closer to that yummy milk. And then when I push him away, he gets all offended, like “what? I was just there to cuddle you! Why are you always so suspicious?”

Wetherby
Wetherby
12 years ago

Some guy’s schtick is so funny. David, he’s really bored with you. He finds you so boring that he reads everything you write, every day. In fact, he finds you so boring that he really doesn’t care what you think. Which is why he keeps coming back and trying to convince both you and everyone else that you’re WRONG, DON’T YOU GET IT, TOTALLY WRONG about the MRM. Because he just finds you so dull.

The late and unlamented B______n was above it all too. He was so far above it all that he’d spend night after night posting endlessly and tediously, ballooning threads up to quadruple figures, while poor Ashley lay in bed twiddling her thumbs wondering what was preventing him from administering the mild spanking he’d promised hours earlier.

Clearly, just as “bad”, “wicked” and “sick” now mean various degrees of excellence, “bored with” is clearly a new slang term for “completely and utterly obsessed with”. Has anyone told urbandictionary.com yet?

Falconer
Falconer
12 years ago

Relevant to thread.

But late to the party, sadly.

An Inconvenient Truth
An Inconvenient Truth
12 years ago

Good on Roosh for that MRA enema post.

Loser/creep-shaming, like slut- and fat-shaming, is a Good Thing in this world of entitlement.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

@blitzgal: Your cat’s called Rigel?

Don’t suppose he’s ever been on a ship- a living ship?

mamram
mamram
12 years ago

Delurking to say: chocolate contains theobromine, which is lethal to dogs and cats if they eat enough of it. Please don’t let your pets eat chocolate.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Yes, I knew that (about the chocolate). After I found that out he did not get any more chocolate. No, I am not trying to poison my cat (and no, that’s not what killed him – he had cancer).

Falconer
Falconer
12 years ago

Re: Atheism+ and the rifts … Thunderf00t is a massive douche and I’m sorry I ever thought he could be a productive part of the movement, or a feminist ally.

I’m not sorry I watched his “Why do People Laugh at Creationists?” series, but in hindsight you can see the seeds of his conduct at FTB. Nothing to indicate that he would happily disclose (or threaten to disclose) confidential emails because of a grudge, though.

jumbofisch
12 years ago

Loser/creep-shaming, like slut- and fat-shaming, is a Good Thing in this world of entitlement.

Being called out for skeevy towards a person ≠ being insulted for body shape/having sex

mamram
mamram
12 years ago

Yeah, I figured most pet owners probably already knew that, and the rascals always seem to find a way to eat what they want anyway, but I thought I would mention it just in case.

Falconer
Falconer
12 years ago

What’s your handle at the atheismplus.com forum? Can you guess mine?

Is it I’m a superior douchebag and you all need to stop talking about this inconsequential crap, you idiots, by any chance?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Also, reading that link – 8.5 ounces of chocolate (can be fatal for dogs)? Who, even if they don’t know it can be poisonous, is feeding their pet entire chocolate bars?

Wetherby
Wetherby
12 years ago

Loser/creep-shaming, like slut- and fat-shaming, is a Good Thing in this world of entitlement.

If you think all those are synonymous, you’re not thinking hard enough.

But I daresay this isn’t the first time you’ve encountered this problem.

(Oh dear – was that “shaming” too? I do apologize.)

An Inconvenient Truth
An Inconvenient Truth
12 years ago

Being called out for skeevy towards a person ≠ being insulted for body shape/having sex

Sure it is. It’s all about holding people accountable for socially corrosive behaviour.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Sure it is. It’s all about holding people accountable for socially corrosive behaviour.

There’s PUA logic in a nutshell – ladies, when you have lots of sex that is socially corrosive behavior and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Now have sex with me.

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

Fuuuuck…

Okay, An Inconvenient Fuckwad, go read a little bit. No, go read a lot.

Diets don’t work.

Fat people eat just about the same stuff as thin people.

Go research those two statements. Don’t you dare call them wrong without proof.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

@blitzgal: Your cat’s called Rigel? Don’t suppose he’s ever been on a ship- a living ship? – MorkaisChosen

That did enter my mind briefly as well (apparently that’s spelt with a Y though, rather than an I). 😀 My second favourite sci fi show of all time.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Is “socially corrosive” the new phrase the kids are using to mean “makes my penis sad?”

Leslie
Leslie
12 years ago

Just a small FYI, David – “the Ukraine” is outdated, and considered offensive by many Ukrainians for complicated reasons including that it makes their country sound less like a country and more like a region (cf. “the Sahara,” “the Hebrides”) – it’s better to go with just “Ukraine.”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

PUAs are so depressing to talk to. Their view of human nature is so profoundly misanthropic, it’s a downer to be around.

Since I can’t be bothered to go to YouTube right now to look for animal videos, here is a pair of adorable earrings instead. They put a smile on my face – I think it’s the idea of tiny little bells ringing in your ears all day.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-EARRING-THAI-STERLING-SILVER-EARRING-92-5-/300667083027?pt=Fashion_Jewelry&hash=item4601279913

Whimsy
Whimsy
12 years ago

Okay, re: the Polish woman thing: when I was growing up, there were a lot of Polish women who would instantly fawn over any American guy to come about, no matter his douchebagery, because they wanted to immigrate to the (then more economically prosperous) US, and the best way to get a visa was to marry an American. Sadly, a lot of these women ended up stuck in abusive realtionships as a result. Others let themselves be abused, only to not get married anyway.

Of course, this was happening around the time I was, what, eight, maybe? I’m eighteen now, so you can imagine how things have changed. The US is no longer the powerhouse it used to be, Poland has universal healthcare, more jobs are available (even though most of them are in other European countries, but they pay for transit, so there’s that), tourism is starting to grow thanks to the EU renovating a ton of old landmarks, and they have decent internet even in rural areas, so communication+technology are no longer a problem. We’re even working on getting the government and church separated. As a result, most women don’t see a point in going to America anymore, so even the pretty rural girls would drop Roosh so hard he’d leave cracks in the pavement.

Maybe he just said Polish women because they’ve garnered a reputation for that kind of thing then? Or perhaps it’s just enough foreign to be exotic, but not so foreign they’re not POCs? Polish women still do most of the housework and childrearing (though that’s mostly the older generation), so maybe they see them as more domestic and subservient therefore more attractive? Hell if I know.

mamram
mamram
12 years ago

I don’t have much personal experience with cats, but I know a dog (not mine) who once dug a chocolate bar out of the bottom of my handbag and ate the entire thing while all the humans were outside for a few minutes. The poor thing had to have her stomach pumped. My concern with feeding an animal small amounts of chocolate would be about letting them learn that they really like it, to the point that they would do such a thing. Obviously a pet owner is the best person to judge whether their animal can handle a few pieces of chocolate here and there without literally going cuckoo for coco puffs, but you know, informed decisions blah blah blah.

Anyway, sorry about the derail!

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