Appeals court upholds conviction of a man who threatened to kill a family court judge — in a song on YouTube

@indifferentsky

yeah, the differentiates songs that advocate resistance from songs that target a specific individual with violent threats.

Another answer to the point is that the method of delivering a threat illuminates context, and a song, a poem, a comedy routine or a music video is the kind of context that may undermine the notion that the threat was real. But one cannot duck § 875(c) merely by delivering the threat in verse or by dressing it up with political (and protected) attacks on the legal system. Sure, “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,” but we leave behind “matters of taste and style,” when an individual makes a real threat to harm another.Had Bob Dylan ended “Hurricane” with a threat to kill the judge who oversaw Rubin Carter’s trial, the song’s other lyrics or the music that accompanied them would not by themselves have precluded a prosecution. In the same way, Jeffries cannot insulate his menacing speech from proscription by conveying it in a music video or for that matter by performing the song with a United States flag burning in the background. See Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989).

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Wait, then again, there are different laws set up for threatening officials right?

875(c) applies to all threats, but no, they wouldnt have made a federal case out of it if he hadn’t threatened a judge.

Oh, wow, Tamara, that’s an awful story.

And yet, Owly still won’t get it. Sure, Karen didn’t make death threats despite being in a much worse situation. But, in Owly’s mind, women are all evil sluts who are just trying to manipulate men, so it would somehow be evil for her to make a death threat when it’s okay for a man to do the same even when his circumstances aren’t nearly as bad. And something about wearing clothes like female animals in heat and women crying in the streets so men will throw money at them.

And Owly yet again demonstrates that he believes he is the center of the universe, and women invented government just to stomp on his balls.

daps for red_locker!

Okay, so Freitag did the sci-fi feline character instead of kawaii catlike creature first. But mine’s got more screen time 😛

Mm I love the mockery ^__^

It all started when someone (aworldanonymous, I think?) linked to this: http://neutralx0.net/tool/bnmk_e.html

And then it just kinda snowballed from there.

Argenti, you must become a cat. 😉

Would any of our current trolls like to tell me why a raven is like a writing desk?

(This will make a lot more sense if my avatar has updated!)

d’aww, thank you! It’s time for bed for the cheshire cat and I though. G’night guys, maybe tomorrow I’ll catch up on the reading with time left for some talking.

Oh, question while I’m still up — anyone have recommendations for booze, with the consideration that I can’t use the fridge for the booze itself? Fridge for juice or other not-obvious mixer should be okay.

My father’s a supposedly sober alcoholic, so my mother is wary of allowing booze in the house at all, but said I can drink as long as I store it somewhere he won’t get into it, which means the fridge is right out. I’m half thinking cheap boxed wine, but I drink so little wine that I can never remember which kind is supposed to be at room temp XD

Maybe I’ll find 5 min to check for answers before my mother drags me into the office to do her filing >.< (I kid, I volunteered as it’s better than listening to the father, still, alarm in 6 hours = g’night!)

Such a horrible situation for his daughter. I hate to think about what could happen once he gets out of jail.

Still, there are plenty of heeelarious things that might happen to him in jail, right Ruby? What with him being evil and all.

Okay, I had five minutes free, and I’ve joined the cat-volution.

This is as close as I can make it come to one of my real-life kitties… the one with the simpler coloring. The other one just plain wasn’t happening. Too much complexity.

She doesn’t always look crazy like that. Just when she’s in a really good mood. Those are good days.

ARRGH

…death threats against the family court judge. This is kind of a no-brainer, dude.

@ Argenti Aertheri

I am fond of mixing Kahluah (Mr H prefers Bailey’s) mixed at 1:3 or 1:4 (ish) with milk. Milk in fridge, booze elsewhere – voila!

My poision of choice, however, is scotch on the rocks, sometimes with a bit of ginger ale or perrier. Another good choice for keeping booze hidden one place and mixers/additives elsewhere.