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The whole world is watching … A Voice for Men “activists” making asses of themselves

Well,I got carried away there. It’s not literally the whole world. Only a teensy weensy portion of it.

The fellows at A Voice for Men, you see, evidently stung by criticism that they aren’t activists, have begun engaging in real, honest-to-goodness real-world activism, by which I mean that a handful of them, some in Canada and at least one in Australia, have been putting up posters advertising the AVFM website.

In other words, their activism consists of putting up posters for a website whose only activism thus far has consisted of putting up posters for itself.

Well, eventually they’ll get the hang of it, I guess.

In any case, the A Voice for Menners have discovered something about activism: if you do things that are offensive enough, people will be offended. And so they’ve managed to offend some people in Canada and in Australia where their posters have gone up. In Australia, there have even been a couple of news articles written about them! For example, one in Melbourne’s Herald Sun says:

A MAN who is littering the city with posters promoting a website that encourages men to support rapists has declined the opportunity to explain himself.

The website, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, is campaigning to get men sitting on juries for rape trials to “vow publicly to vote not guilty, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the charges are true”. …

The website’s publisher, Paul Elam, told the Herald Sun he was too busy watching the movie Air Force One to be interviewed, but later said by email he stood by the campaign.

Ooh! How very, very alpha of him.

Other articles (see here and here) describe the posters as “hate posters,” because one of them seems to suggest that women provoke domestic violence against themselves. The text of the poster reads “Domestic Violence Women Are Half the Problem.”

In fact, Elam and company are trying to suggest that women instigate half of all domestic violence, and thus are “half the problem,” but they’re so wedded to the easily misunderstood “half the problem” slogan that they somehow cannot seem to get this idea across in poster form. (This idea is itself incorrect, but that’s a whole other kettle of angry dudes.) Elam and company don’t quite seem to understand that an important part of activism is actually conveying your ideas to the general public rather than simply provoking people.

You can’t buy this kind of publicity!

Well, technically, you could, but no one would, because no one would willingly pay money for a publicity campaign that makes them appear to be hateful assholes — and in fact, even a teensy bit more hateful than they actually are.

So, congratulations, I guess?

If anyone wants to help AVFM in its publicity campaign, the super-sarcastic poster below, and a number of other poorly thought out and badly designed posters, can be downloaded from AVFM here by “anyone who wants to print and distribute them.”

Note: THIS IS A REAL AVFM POSTER. I didn’t make it up. See here.

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nerdiah
nerdiah
12 years ago

Graham: “I had no idea they’d been so ineffective for so long.”

That is part of the joke, isn’t it? Now I’m doubting my own reality. After posting I found out that ‘Unknown History of Misandry’ is reposted all over the MRAwebs, and had even been invited by Paul Elam himself to guest post at Voice for Men. And now manboobz is quoting it like it’s real.

I mean really, ‘The League for the Rights of Men / Menschenrechte’ was founded in 1926 in Austria? Surely it couldn’t be so obvious, the mistake must be mine. Or is it?

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

Sometimes it takes a few minutes to update it.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

I second blitzgal’s comment on where the kitty avatar creator is, I want one too.

ostara321
ostara321
12 years ago

When purchasing a second item from a store, just hang around the doors with the item and attempt to leave without paying. If an employee objects, go to a checkout, pay for it and try again next time. By the fourth or fifth time, you won’t have to pay.

In AIT’s estimation, this doesn’t count as shoplifting.

I know when I worked in a department store this is TOTALLY how we would handle shoplifters. /sarcasm

nerdiah
nerdiah
12 years ago

Damn it, if it is satire, it is freakin’ genius. Now I wish I could go back and delete my comments. Feel free to delete my comments please David F!

blitzgal
12 years ago

Oh, now I am kittified. Nice.

BlueBee
BlueBee
12 years ago

In case anyone is interested, they plasters a bunch of those stupid A Voice for Men posters again, in Hamilton. Except it rained today and that made it very easy to tear down those posters.

WordSpinner
WordSpinner
12 years ago

Testing my new kitty gravatar.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
12 years ago

Hey. I am WordSpinner, it was just that was taken when I signed up for Gravatar, so now I’m wordsp1nner so I can have a cute kitty avatar. KITTIES FOR EVERYONE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.

blitzgal
12 years ago

I like it! Everyone must be assimilated!

katz
12 years ago

Oh, this is where the kittehs are coming from.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

It actually started in the kitteh post, but it’s spreading.

jumbofisch
12 years ago

Mwahahahhahhah

cloudiah
12 years ago

Kittehs are taking over the worldd!!!! I think they have repelled all the trolls.

blitzgal
12 years ago

Kay, KATZ HAZ KITTY

An Inconvenient Truth
An Inconvenient Truth
12 years ago

When purchasing a second item from a store, just hang around the doors with the item and attempt to leave without paying. If an employee objects, go to a checkout, pay for it and try again next time. By the fourth or fifth time, you won’t have to pay.

Why would such a store keep allowing you inside?

skeptifem
12 years ago

“Why would such a store keep allowing you inside?”

because creep shaming is misandry! duh!

on a serious note, the scenarios listed are ones where a woman cannot easily get away. There is little “allowing” going on at that point.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Now I am a kitty too.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Except I fail at gravatar so I’m not.

katz
12 years ago

C-c-combo breaker!

katz
12 years ago

(Inconvenient Truth is the combo breaker. Aworldanon is a kitty.)

cloudiah
12 years ago

You’re a cute kitty, aworldanon — clear your cache.

ostara321
ostara321
12 years ago

Why would such a store keep allowing you inside?

Still missing the point, I see.

AlexB
AlexB
12 years ago

“Initiate nonconsensual sex over and over until she stops vocalizing her non-consent” is coercive and disgusting.

So, does anyone know of any good books for girls/young women that explain that guys like this exist, and explains some tactics to spot them and deal with them? The Gift of Fear is pretty good but a version which is updated for the age of PUAs would be really useful, I think.

Knowing about boundary testing and other predator tactics could save a lot of girls (not all girls, of course, and I have no wish to victim blame here) from ever being alone in a room with pieces of shit like this to begin with. And recognising immediately that a guy you’re with is doing rapey shit is also a really important thing that doesn’t come immediately to a lot of women because there is that confused freeze/is this really happening response that kicks in. I think there’s some extent to which some decent education about consent and boundaries could help stave that off.

It just really upsets me that so many women have to go through the same process I went through, of learning the hard way through various encounters with predators and shitheads not to be “nice.” I know reading The GIft Of Fear in my early twenties was awesomely helpful for me, in that it validated my need to set strong boundaries, and gave me the confidence to decline any sort of conversation or interaction I didn’t want. And I grew up before PUA was a thing. I think it might be even worse now.

I mean, obviously in an ideal world interpersonal boundaries and This is What Rape Looks Like would be taught in school, to both boys and girls. But failing that… does a book like that exist?

KittehServant
KittehServant
12 years ago

My kitteh is a kitteh! I has been assimilated! Yay!