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Ann Coulter channels Men’s Rightsers in her latest attack on single women

All you single ladies get off my lawn!

While single herself, the always belligerent Ann Coulter seems to have a bit of a grudge against other single women — single mothers in particular. In a recent appearance on Fox and Friends, Coulter complained that the Democrats — and the media — were paying too much attention to what women think, and suggested that Romney could win the election without appealing to women — or at least to single women.

Ronald Reagan managed to win two landslides without winning the women’s vote, but it is as you say, it’s striking, it’s not the women’s vote generically, it is the single women’s vote. And that’s because single women look to the government to be their husbands and give them, you know, prenatal care, and preschool care, and kindergarten care, and school lunches.

Huh. Well, this might answer the central question in that National Review piece we discussed yesterday — why Romney isn’t getting 100% support from women, even though he’s the sort of rich guy alpha that evolutionary psychologists suggest is inherently appealing to “hypergamous” (i.e., golddigging) women. Turns out these women are already married to Obama!

The notion of government as a “substitute husband” is, of course, an old Men’s Rights trope. Warren Farrell devoted roughly a third of his Myth of Male Power — the 1993 tome from which the Men’sRights movement still gets most of its talking points — to explicating this particular theme. And it’s one that MRAs today return to again and again and again and again. (The notion of the “husband state” also, not coincidentally, played a role in the sprawling manifesto of mass killer Anders Breivik.)

As for Coulter, this isn’t the first time she’s singled out the single ladies. In a recent appearance on Sean Hannity’s show on Fox, Coulter went after Obama and the Democrats for focusing on what she called the “stupid single women” vote. “And I would just say to stupid single women voters,” she added,

your husband will not be able to pay you child support. If Obamacare goes through and Obama is re-elected, you are talking about the total destruction of wealth in America. It is the end of America as we know it. …

Great, you will get free contraception; you won’t have to pay a $10 co-pay, but it will be the end of America. Think about that!

Coulter is so miffed that single women don’t like Republicans that she’d be willing to give up her own right to vote if it means these “stupid … women” wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. As she once famously explained,

If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it’s the party of women and ‘We’ll pay for health care and tuition and day care — and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?’

Here’s a much more appealing take on single women. Well, honestly, it’s as terrifying as it is entertaining:

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clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

Arguing with this guy is like arguing with a kindergartner. I’m bored now. How about some Repo Man?

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Tmason: I know several people who would have had much better childhoods if their parents had divorced. People who hate each other and are only staying together for the kids just set said kids up for lifetimes of guilt: ‘My parents hated each other and wouldn’t have stayed together if I hadn’t been born!’

Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

Tmason, are you um, for small government?

LOL, Republicans aren’t really for small government, either…… they just want the governing of their lives to be small, but all for big governing of others (i.e., putting/keeping women and POC “in their place”).

katz
12 years ago

18:51

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Oh yeah, education and food and shelter and healthcare are such subjective needs. People just dream them up, they’re not real, objective needs.

Sounds to me like Tmason just resents society doing anything for its most vulnerable members … acting like, you know, an actual society instead of a bully club for the wealthy.

Reductio ad absurdum

Try a mandatory jobs/training program for a person asking for assistance versus a simple check.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Because if only one works, they all starve (see above, re the stagnation of wages in the past 40 years.

And if we’d build a society such that one person can work and take care of the family?

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

And. if more and more people stayed at home and we went to a single-breadwinner model we wouldn’t have the competition for jobs we have now.

Attention Women!! Get back to thy kitchen and support your career-havin’ man!!
Nope, never heard that proposal before!

Pear_tree
Pear_tree
12 years ago

While the bus service here is slightly better coming every 45minutes, there are several areas without a supermarket despite a large population without cars. Even where I live the nearest supermarket is about 45min walk each way, and this area is hot.

My guess is that most places so far from supermarkets are bad areas you wouldn’t get the richer people driving to the supermarket so it wouldn’t be worth the investment. No idea what the people who live there do for food.

I see these areas because I take the bus.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

This is how I feel about dealing with Tmason:

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Still trying to figure out how Tmason intends to eliminate single parents. Forced abortions/sterilization? Forced adoptions to Wholesome Heterosexual Couples? Forced marriage? Can’t think of that many other options.

Someone has totalitarianism on their minds.

Let’s instead focus on building people up so that partners don’t leave when responsibility calls. Then the pregnant party has a choice to actually have a party take care of the situation and would need less outside services.

Snowy
Snowy
12 years ago

Practically all studies that looked into the effects of divorce say something like this.

O rly? Could you point me to the study that says “what the child sees is daddy not home anymore and some strange man being nice.” because that is what you originally claimed. Totally in a not creepy way at all of course.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Are we entertaining a troll too stupid to know why/when the free lunch program began and who doesn’t know anything substantive about Clinton’s welfare room?

Seriously?

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

tmason, go read this book before you make any more arguments here. It’s full of actual research and facts and stuff. Your library probably has it.

You assume I believe the past was rosy. No dice.

katz
12 years ago

19:53, still being generous.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

Oh man. That is, like, the best answer ever!

I’m the smartest person in the world! Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

I can control the universe with my mind. Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

This John Birch Society/Tea Party movement are all about taxation and not at all racist in any way in the slightest. Exceptions do not disprove the rule.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you here…… problem I run into when pitching it to men is the addendum — that men should play an extremely active part of the child’s life, and not just for a few hours on the weekend, when their relationship with the child’s mother is still intact, not be all about the “shared parenting” only once the relationship with the mother has ended.

This is a conundrum. The challenge of raising the child without either party feeling like they can use the child as a tool to get with or back at the other.

I believe it can be done though.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Let’s instead focus on building people up so that partners don’t leave when responsibility calls. Then the pregnant party has a choice to actually have a party take care of the situation and would need less outside services.

Let’s be clear, you’re talking about women right? By and large, women are the people who get pregnant. In what ways do women need to be built up so that their partners don’t leave them?

I’m dying to hear your thoughts?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

No, I assume that you believe that in the past all families were neat little packages of working dad and stay-at-home mom and it all worked out for everybody.

Here, I’ll summarize the book for you. The 1950’s were a historical anomaly.

jumbofisch
jumbofisch
12 years ago

Let’s instead focus on building people up so that partners don’t leave when responsibility calls. Then the pregnant party has a choice to actually have a party take care of the situation and would need less outside services.

Instead of spending government money on something that actually benefits people lets spend money on some program that might not even benefit anyone.

katz
12 years ago

20:54.

To be fair, I’m counting questions in the latter category, since he’s generally been using questions either to derail or to weasel out of actually giving an opinion.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

I’m going to assume you did not grow up on a farm. If you did, I’m going to tell you some things you already know:

(a) Farm work is not “easy.” It’s hard-ass labor, every inch of it. Growing food is not easy. Preserving it is not easy. Getting up a 3 a.m. because a sheep is in labor is not easy. Baling hay is not only “not easy,” it’s some of the hardest damn work there is. I’ve seen professional football players cry after a day of baling. (Not an exaggeration. I really have.)

(b) Farm work is frequently “outsourced” – sometimes to the neighbors, sometimes to employees, sometimes to the government. Any individual farm family relies on outside help at some point, whether it’s from the Johnson twins down the road helping to shear the sheep, from hiring workers to pick crops, from John Deere building a new tractor the farm purchases, or from the government cutting a check in cases of massive crop failure (we’re seeing a lot of these this year, because of the weather) or providing a free health clinic so that when little Jimmy steps on a rusty nail in the barn, he doesn’t die of tetanus.

(c) Farm work is not cheap. I’ve never known a farm family – including my own – that did not have at least one member working full-time outside the farm. Growing your own food and raising your own alpacas is great if you want food and alpaca yarn, but it’s useless if you need to buy equipment, medicine, toilet paper, or if you need any kind of services.

So are we benefiting from letting other people, as a society, do all of this work for us?

Instead of “Dani Alexis” and folk like you performing this work, we now have someone else in one form or another doing the work you itemized above.

So when I refer to it being “easier” for us to do this work, I mean what you write above versus you (or society if you prefer a stand-in) now having to work to pay for someone to do what you wrote above.

creativewritingstudent
creativewritingstudent
12 years ago

@Tmason

You know what happens without minimum wage? Well, seeing as slavery is illegal, businesses have to pay their employees something. The employees are paid bare minimum to keep them from striking or revolting. This varies by class, but at the very poorest end of the working class, this may mean that small children would have to go to work in order to afford enough food to live on. When I say ‘live’, I mean barely living. And if one of those workers gets sick, they can’t afford to take a day off, and they can’t afford medicine.

And no, they cannot get a better job. All the jobs they can be hired for have exactly the same pay policies. In some cases the company may own the town they live in, and they cannot buy goods and services from anywhere but the (expensive) company store, so they can’t save.

The minimum wage may not be perfect, but at least we don’t live in the Victorian era.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

I think the only possibly response to that is “Fuck you, you fucking fuck” on behalf of my friends who are awesome single parents and are raising wonderful kids.

Define awesome single parents and wonderful kids. And are you saying that as a society we should make it such that we encourage single motherhood?

Myoo
Myoo
12 years ago

If it is a really high rate (50% or higher) what’s the guarantee that you’ll actually get that money in the medium to long term? What’s to stop them from not only offloading labor but their headquarters, etc so that they don’t pay?

The fact that they’re already doing these things? Tax them higher and they have a choice to either have a lot more of their capital tied up in offshores or to actually invest it.

Honestly, if I had my way, they just wouldn’t have those ridiculous amounts of money to begin with, but taxing them is at least a start.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Yes.

Will yo go away now?

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