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Ann Coulter channels Men’s Rightsers in her latest attack on single women

All you single ladies get off my lawn!

While single herself, the always belligerent Ann Coulter seems to have a bit of a grudge against other single women — single mothers in particular. In a recent appearance on Fox and Friends, Coulter complained that the Democrats — and the media — were paying too much attention to what women think, and suggested that Romney could win the election without appealing to women — or at least to single women.

Ronald Reagan managed to win two landslides without winning the women’s vote, but it is as you say, it’s striking, it’s not the women’s vote generically, it is the single women’s vote. And that’s because single women look to the government to be their husbands and give them, you know, prenatal care, and preschool care, and kindergarten care, and school lunches.

Huh. Well, this might answer the central question in that National Review piece we discussed yesterday — why Romney isn’t getting 100% support from women, even though he’s the sort of rich guy alpha that evolutionary psychologists suggest is inherently appealing to “hypergamous” (i.e., golddigging) women. Turns out these women are already married to Obama!

The notion of government as a “substitute husband” is, of course, an old Men’s Rights trope. Warren Farrell devoted roughly a third of his Myth of Male Power — the 1993 tome from which the Men’sRights movement still gets most of its talking points — to explicating this particular theme. And it’s one that MRAs today return to again and again and again and again. (The notion of the “husband state” also, not coincidentally, played a role in the sprawling manifesto of mass killer Anders Breivik.)

As for Coulter, this isn’t the first time she’s singled out the single ladies. In a recent appearance on Sean Hannity’s show on Fox, Coulter went after Obama and the Democrats for focusing on what she called the “stupid single women” vote. “And I would just say to stupid single women voters,” she added,

your husband will not be able to pay you child support. If Obamacare goes through and Obama is re-elected, you are talking about the total destruction of wealth in America. It is the end of America as we know it. …

Great, you will get free contraception; you won’t have to pay a $10 co-pay, but it will be the end of America. Think about that!

Coulter is so miffed that single women don’t like Republicans that she’d be willing to give up her own right to vote if it means these “stupid … women” wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. As she once famously explained,

If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it’s the party of women and ‘We’ll pay for health care and tuition and day care — and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?’

Here’s a much more appealing take on single women. Well, honestly, it’s as terrifying as it is entertaining:

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katz
12 years ago

15:45

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Bullshit. I lived in a food desert. It was a three mile walk to the nearest grocery. There was some food at the bodegas, but I made that mistake once… It was a dollar each for the tomatoes and the onions.

So it was not cheaper to make the food myself.

If I didn’t have a car, then it was a two-hour walk, plus the shopping time, to get what I could carry on my back. There was a bus.. it ran once an hour, and it took thirty minutes. I couldn’t really carry any more food that way, because it was a 1/4 mile to the stop.

So, with a rucksack, and a strong back, I could carry three/four days worth of food. So I need to shop at least twice a week, that’s eight/nine hours of shopping time.

There were 20,000 people living in that food desert. You trying to say there wasn’t a demand?

Then, of course, there is the prep time to actually cook it. The Taco Bell was 10 minutes, and there was a KFC, and a McD’s, and all sorts of little taquerias. Which was the easier thing? Which was “cheaper”? What’s a person’s time worth? What’s my effort to haul thirty pounds of food three miles, twice a week costing me in wear and tear?

This is confusing; it was a three mile walk to the nearest grocery, but if you didn’t have a car it was a two-hour walk?

But let’s flip the question. If there are 20,000 people there; why didn’t a company see fit to open a store there? They’d make a ton of money, and yet no one decided to make the investment.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Wow, he’s sticking to that 1:3 thing pretty consistently. Not often you see someone so predictable.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

And the buggy whips, and the farriers.

What about the dudes who maintained steam engines, and the whistle-stop keepers.

SHIT! there used to be telegraph operators.

What’s the point here?

katz
12 years ago

This is confusing; it was a three mile walk to the nearest grocery, but if you didn’t have a car it was a two-hour walk?

OMG HOW COULD THIS MATH POSSIBLY WORK

15:47

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Let’s see, suppose someone walks at three miles an hour, and you have to go there and back… No don’t tell me…

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

No, it’s not. When they finally (after a five year hiatus) opened a supermarket it throve. There was, however, a huge resistance to it, by the owners of the bodegas and the franchise fast food companies, because it was cheaper to eat at Taco Bell. For $2 I could get a tomato and an onion, or a couple of tacos.

A five year hiatus from the last supermarket? As for the competitors, of course they’ll resist to it. But I believe I am, not getting the whole story here. Why would a business put off building a store for five years knowing they could make a significant amount of money? And only the resistance of a few stores? They don’t have that much clout.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Tmason, I’m feeling generous so I’ll help you with the word problem. It was a two-round trip walk to the store.

Why are trolls so painfully literal?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

It’s such a Catch-22!

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Tmason, do you think the conglomerate behind Taco Bell is small?

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Oh, I get it. Changes to technology are increasing unemployment, therefore we must cut off government services to the unemployed and, presumably, fire those government employees responsible for running them.

Wait, on second thoughts, no; I don’t get it.

False premise. Gradual reduction based on the conditions on the ground does not equal cutting off.

And. if more and more people stayed at home and we went to a single-breadwinner model we wouldn’t have the competition for jobs we have now. We will have less jobs regardless (few people can justify starting an in-person video rental business), but less people looking for said jobs.

katz
12 years ago

Chance that Tmason also thinks the wage gap can’t exist because then businesses would all hire women to save money: 100%

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

(1) Are we going to put policies in place that dictate to private entities what they can and cannot pay their employees?

Why not?

Is it right to dictate what people can/cannot make? I believe not.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

So who’s the breadwinner in your scenario? Wait, let me guess… could it be the MEN?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

And. if more and more people stayed at home and we went to a single-breadwinner model we wouldn’t have the competition for jobs we have now.

Seriously? If people can’t afford to feed their families, then half of them should stop working for pay? And which half of the population to you envision staying home now?

katz
12 years ago

Because I’m immensely generous, I’ll count 2 of the last 3.

17:48.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Tmason seriously reminds me of B__. Yet another libertarian whiner.

creativewritingstudent
creativewritingstudent
12 years ago

@hellkell

Trust me, I know that whatever the intention, hurtful/offensive things are still hurtful/offensive.

In some ways I think this is one of the worst things one can do. They know these words are hurtful, they know they’re offensive, they know they’re hateful. And they still spew them everywhere because they find it funny. You can’t even shame them for what they’re doing because they already know and they just don’t care.

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

(1) Are we going to put policies in place that dictate to private entities what they can and cannot pay their employees?

Why not?

Is it right to dictate what people can/cannot make? I believe not.

Again, why not? We have all sorts of laws to prevent one group of people from taking advantage of another group. Why not in this case?

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

Uh, as someone with parents who divorced when I was a child I saw it as my parents not arguing all the time anymore and it was a relief. But keep trying to creepily speak for all people people with divorced parents, that really helps your argument.

<a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/252/5011/1386.short"National, longitudinal surveys from Great Britain and the United States were used to investigate the effects of divorce on children. In both studies, a subsample of children who were in two-parent families during the initial interview (at age 7 in the British data and at ages 7 to 11 in the U.S. data) were followed through the next interview (at age 11 and ages 11 to 16, respectively). At both time points in the British data, parents and teachers independently rated the children’s behavior problems, and the children were given reading and mathematics achievement tests. At both time points in the U.S. data, parents rated the children’s behavior problems. Children whose parents divorced or separated between the two time points were compared to children whose families remained intact. For boys, the apparent effect of separation or divorce on behavior problems and achievement at the later time point was sharply reduced by considering behavior problems, achievement levels, and family difficulties that were present at the earlier time point, before any of the families had broken up. For girls, the reduction in the apparent effect of divorce occurred to a lesser but still noticeable extent once preexisting conditions were considered.

Practically all studies that looked into the effects of divorce say something like this.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

The phrase “catch 22″ just called and asked you to stop abusing it.

How do you know people wouldn’t come there? Do you think poor people are stupid?

I fucking hate glibertarians.

The other commenter just pointed to the issue; a matter of time spent in preparation of food.

And you are projecting on the poor.

AliasC
AliasC
12 years ago

Wow, Tmason, your (non)understanding of economics was making my head hurt, and then your complete ignorance of the tax system just made it explode. What in the name of the Schedule A is a marriage credit? Why do you have to be married to deduct your mortgage interest? And what about refundable credits like the refundable portion of the Child Tax Credit, or Earned Income Tax Credit? Which for millions of people are a “simple payment” to families from the government, and which, by the way, work.

The creation of the refundable component of the Child Tax Credit, which like the EITC is available only to families that work, has complemented the EITC’s pro-work efforts. Moreover, the EITC and CTC lifted 8.9 million people — including 4.7 million children — out of poverty in 2010. These refundable credits lift more children out of poverty than any other program or category of programs at any level of government.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3505

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Is it right to dictate what people can/cannot make? I believe not.

Dictating how much businesses should pay employees is terrible, but dictating to families that one member must stay home and not work is totally reasonable and not at all inappropriate. Obviously.

(It’s kind of funny how literally “get the ladies back in the kitchen” this one is.)

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Tmason, I’m not projecting on the poor–learn what the fuck projection means. And I’ve told you several times that time is not an issue–healthy meals are not hard to cook and do not require the time investment you would like them to to justify women not working. Nice try.

Keep fucking that chicken.

Tmason
Tmason
12 years ago

They’re already doing this kind of stuff, they’re already pumping their money into offshore accounts to evade taxes, they’re already outsourcing jobs to foreign countries with laxer regulations, they’re already sitting on a crapton of money for no reason other than to say they have a lot of money, and their tax rates are minuscule so not raising their taxes is obviously not preventing that.
If they were taxed higher, maybe the money could be spent on more productive endeavors instead of them just hoarding it like they were Scroodge McDuck.

To an extent the argument you are making depends on the tax rate you are proposing.

If it is a really high rate (50% or higher) what’s the guarantee that you’ll actually get that money in the medium to long term? What’s to stop them from not only offloading labor but their headquarters, etc so that they don’t pay?

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