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Yo, dudes: Alpha males are a myth, according to actual experts on wolves

Manosphere misogynists like to tell themselves fairy tales about women. Their favorite such tale, repeated endlessly, is one called “The Cock Carousel” – sometimes referred to in expanded form as the “Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel” or the “Bad Boy Cock Carousel.” (Hence that Rooster-riding gal you see in this blog’s header about half the time.)

Despite the different names, the story is always, monotonously, the same: In their late teens and twenties, when they’re at the height of their sexual appeal, women (or at least the overwhelming majority of them) have sex in rapid succession with an assortment of charismatic but unreliable alpha males and “bad boys” who make their vaginas (or just ‘ginas) tingle. Then, sometime in their mid-to-late twenties, these women “hit the wall,” with their so-called sexual market value (or SMV) dropping faster than Facebook’s stock price. As Roissy/Heartiste puts it, in his typically overheated prose:

So sad, so tragic, the inevitable slide into sexual worthlessness that accompanies women, the withering tick tock of the cosmic clock stripping their beauty in flayed bits of soulletting mignons like psychological ling chi. A sadistic thief in the night etching, billowing, draping and sagging a new affront to her most preciously guarded asset.

While many women try to pretend they’ve still “got it,” even at the ripe old age of thirty, they inevitably have to either get off or get thrown off the “cock carousel.” At this point the more savvy women glom onto some convenient “beta male” who, while somewhat lacking in sexual appeal, will at least be a good husband and provider for them – and in many cases the children they’ve had with alpha male seed. Those women who don’t accept the new reality are destined to end up alone and childless, surrounded by cats.

To borrow the phrase South Park used in its episodes about Scientology and Mormonism, this is what manosphere men actually believe. Not only that, but they claim that this fairy tale is based on real science.

So who are these mysterious alpha males that get the women so excited? As one guide to pickup artist (PUA) lingo puts it:

In animal hierarchies, the Alpha Male is the most dominant, and typically the physically strongest member of the group. For example, in wolf packs, the “alpha wolf” is the strongest member of the pack, and is the leader of the group. This position of leadership is often achieved by killing or defeating the previous Alpha Male in combat. Alpha wolves have first access to food as well as mating privileges with the females of the pack.

Social status among human social groups is less rigidly defined than in the animal kingdom, but there are some recognizable parallels. Although people don’t often engage in physical violence to achieve dominance, there are still recognizable leaders in different fields who have wide access to material resources and women.

Because the qualities of the Alpha Male (such as social dominance and leadership) are attractive to women, many PUAs have adopted these ideals as models of emulation. In fact, the term “alpha” has come be shorthand for the qualities of an attractive man, and it is a common refrain among PUAs to be “more alpha” or to “out alpha” competitors.

There’s a certain logic to all this. But unfortunately for the PUAs and other manospherians the notion of the Alpha male is based on bad science. The notion of Alpha dominance, as the definition above notes, came originally from studies of wolf packs. Even if we assume that wolf behavior is somehow a good model upon which to base our understanding of human romance  – as manosphere men and evolutionary psychologists tend to do – the science behind the Alpha male wolf has now come completely undone, with many of those who promulgated the theory in the first place decades ago now explicitly repudiating it.

The problem, you see, is that the studies underlying the notion of the alpha male wolf, who aggressively asserts his dominance over beta males in order to rule the pack, were all based on observations of wolves in captivity. In the real world, wolf packs don’t work that way at all. Most wolf packs are basically wolf families, with a breeding pair and their pups. When male pups reach adulthood, they don’t fight their fathers for dominance — they go out and start their own families.

As noted wolf behavior expert L. David Mech, one of those who helped to establish and popularize the notion of the alpha wolf in the first place, explains on his website:

The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history.

One of the outdated pieces of information is the concept of the alpha wolf. “Alpha” implies competing with others and becoming top dog by winning a contest or battle. However, most wolves who lead packs achieved their position simply by mating and producing pups, which then became their pack. In other words they are merely breeders, or parents, and that’s all we call them today, the “breeding male,” “breeding female,” or “male parent,” “female parent,” or the “adult male” or “adult female.” In the rare packs that include more than one breeding animal, the “dominant breeder” can be called that, and any breeding daughter can be called a “subordinate breeder.”

So the dominant male wolves – those whom manosphere dudes would still call the alphas – achieve this position not by being sexy badasses but simply by siring and taking responsibility for pups. To use the terminology in the manner of manosphere dudes, alphas become alphas by acting like betas. That’s right: alphas are betas. (For more of the details, see this paper by Mech; it’s in pdf form.)

Also, they’re wolves and not humans, but that’s a whole other kettle of anthropomorphized fish.

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princessbonbon
12 years ago

Oh that makes sense then Pecunium. Kind of.

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This whole PUA ‘alpha males’ and ‘cock carousel’ crap makes me laugh. Purely personal reaction: a bloke who’d fit their idea of dominance or whatever fits my descritpion of an arrogant shithead LOSER and the thought of having sex with someone like that is repellent. (The thought of having sex with anyone but my beloved is repellent, for that matter, but if I were looking … oy, those ‘alphas’ are more ‘omegas’ in my listing.)

leftwingfox
12 years ago

Oh man… I ran across the Yellowstone documentary on Netflicx, and there’s a lovely section of wolf mating.

So: Lone wolf is shadowing the pack, ’cause the “alpha” is going to kill the shit out of him if he gets caught. It’s mating season though, and one of the pack wolves is interested in geting a little, ’cause the rest of her pack are immediate relatives.

The two have a quick tryst, which is hampered by the wonders of canine biology, and the return of the rest of the pack. The Alpha then proceeds to chase after the loner, who is still locked tight to the Alpha’s daughter, and not looking to come loose anytime soon. Fortunately for the lone wolf, he manages to get free, and runs off with his tail between his legs (probably so he doesn’t freeze his dick off in the -40 Yellowstone winter.) If successful, the lone wolf’s cubs will be part of the pack.

So, PUA “Alphas”; are you the father who will be raising the kids of a deadbeat dad, or the “lone wolf” getting run out of town by said shotgun-wielding father, sans pants?

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

So when I think of alphas in the way PUAs mean it, I think of this for some reason:

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

But then again, Gangnam Style is awesome and Alpha/Beta is just silly, so it’s an unfair comparison.

kristinmh
kristinmh
12 years ago

I was going to jump in with “Cedar Milan is full of shit”: but I see skeptifem beat me to it *harumph*

Hey PUAs, ever heard what preying mantises do after sex? What, you don’t want your sex partner to kill and eat you? I swear, you are so anti-science, just like YECs.

(If anyone wants to totally derail this thread into talking about dogs, I’m in! XD )

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Hay PUAs, ever heard what preying mantises do after sex? What, you don’t want your sex partner to kill and eat you? I swear, you are so anti-science, just like YECs.

Also several species of spider.

Deranged Counter-Troll
Deranged Counter-Troll
12 years ago

The whole alpha/beta thing only applies to werewolves, rather than real wolves, anyway.

timetravellingfool
12 years ago

@ aworldanonymous- Ahaha, I suspect SK is the secret storehouse of all the world’s awesome.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Lycanthropy is misandry.

Where are the Cherwolves?

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Where are the Cherwolves?

This is the closest I could get:

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Vampirisim is misandry!

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Frankenstein’s monster is misandry!

leftwingfox
12 years ago

Mummies are misandry!

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

But what about the zombies? WHAT ABOUT THE ZOMBIES?

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Mad scientists are misandry!

Ever seen a female mad scientist? Misandry.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Hey PUAs, ever heard what preying mantises do after sex? What, you don’t want your sex partner to kill and eat you? I swear, you are so anti-science, just like YECs.

Incedentally, I think that’s another thing that only happens in captivity.

Vampirisim is misandry!

That’s a lie!

Alex
12 years ago

I’m not sure where these guys get their information. Wolves being my favourite animal for over fifteen years, I’ve done quite a bit of reading on them.

This position of leadership is often achieved by killing or defeating the previous Alpha Male in combat.

What? Everything I read said most confrontations were settled with little injury and even fewer deaths, even when it came to fighting over a mate. Alphas were the leaders in part because they were the strongest, biggest, and good at leading, yes, but they didn’t usually fight to get that role, and certainly not to the death.

Alpha wolves have first access to food as well as mating privileges with the females of the pack.

Huh? Alpha wolves, from what I read, were a mated pair. That mated pair were pretty much exclusive to each other. There were no “mating privileges” for either alpha male or alpha female, and I’m pretty sure he either made that up, or confused wolves with lions.

Now, all of this is what I read BEFORE the debunking of the “alpha wolf”, so it’s not even like he read a lot about wolves and was misled. What he says doesn’t square with anything I’ve read.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

Actually, praying mantis are much like wolves. In the wild the incidence of sexual cannibalism in mantids is really low. I’ve hatched them out, in the interest of gardening, and leaving them in a terrarium for a couple of days (so I could photograph them) they didn’t eat each other, some starved to death, but I didn’t see any cannibalism.

Ladybug larva, on the other hand are cannibalistic, much to my surprise. I hatched four I’d found on a leaf, and in the time it took me to put the camera away I was down to one.

Interesting fact. Male Mantids have wings, and one ear, because they seek out the female; who stays put (the real reason I hatch mantids indoors is to be able to spread them around the yard, and so have more in the area; this has been very good for subsequent years). Because the female doesn’t fly, she has no ears.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

Gah…. I meant to say “much like wolves because out understanding of them is based on conditions in captivity, not the wild. In the wild….”

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Mantids are misandry!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Men don’t even have tids!

Hey! Why don’t men have tids?

I think I detect some misandry afoot.

Phil
12 years ago

Great post.

The issue of Alpha and Beta, like you said has a certain logic to it yeah, but it has always struck me as just another way for PUAs to leech off the credibility of science. This is a tactic I see all too often on the internet, whenever someone wants to push amoral (or immoral) and false philosophies on others they try to attach at least some scientific credibility to part of it so that people are less likely to think critically about the rest of their nonsense.

Even if wolves did have an Alpha/Beta hierarchy, you still never see human social interaction referred to this way in scientific journals or anywhere except the popular press and blogs. In fact, the closest parallel you’ll see to what PUAs refer to as Alpha men is people with pathologically manipulative and self obsessed personality disorders (ie the dark triad).

It should occur to the men who are reading PUA blogs that what they’re essentially being trained to do is mimic the behaviors of narcissists, psychopaths, and so on. The problem with imitating the behaviors of people with personality disorders is that acting like you have a personality disorder is (practically speaking) the same as having a personality disorder. But I suspect that’s why PUAs appeal to certain people in the first place.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Of course, this unending propraganda is never complete without a reminder to everyone that women are only sexually useful as teens and early 20-somethings or whatever those assholes are always raving about. Except they’re always talking about fertility and never about sexual peak (sexual peak is scary, it’s about how often you want to do it and how experience enhances sex, and that’s attainable, according to the Kinsey Institute, around the late 30′s to 40′s). It’s their favorite mind-fuck of all time, and it’s boring as shit.

This is what I don’t get. If peak fertility is in a woman’s 20s, why would women evolve to be horniest in their 30s and 40s? wouldn’t it make more sense for it to be that way in our 20s?

Damn human relations. I’m actually all for sexbots.

Nanasha
Nanasha
12 years ago

I can’t seem to find the study, but apparently there was a bonobo or chimp troupe in the wild where the alpha/dominant males were killed off because they ate a bunch of food that got them so sick that they died, and the “beta” caring males were left over instead. Instead of falling apart, the troupe actually FLOURISHED and every individual thrived.

Makes you wonder what would happen if tomorrow we woke up in a society without patriarchal assholes, doesn’t it?

In the end, the greed and insistance to be “first” to something might actually be the downfall for the so-called “jerks on top.”

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