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Yo, dudes: Alpha males are a myth, according to actual experts on wolves

Manosphere misogynists like to tell themselves fairy tales about women. Their favorite such tale, repeated endlessly, is one called “The Cock Carousel” – sometimes referred to in expanded form as the “Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel” or the “Bad Boy Cock Carousel.” (Hence that Rooster-riding gal you see in this blog’s header about half the time.)

Despite the different names, the story is always, monotonously, the same: In their late teens and twenties, when they’re at the height of their sexual appeal, women (or at least the overwhelming majority of them) have sex in rapid succession with an assortment of charismatic but unreliable alpha males and “bad boys” who make their vaginas (or just ‘ginas) tingle. Then, sometime in their mid-to-late twenties, these women “hit the wall,” with their so-called sexual market value (or SMV) dropping faster than Facebook’s stock price. As Roissy/Heartiste puts it, in his typically overheated prose:

So sad, so tragic, the inevitable slide into sexual worthlessness that accompanies women, the withering tick tock of the cosmic clock stripping their beauty in flayed bits of soulletting mignons like psychological ling chi. A sadistic thief in the night etching, billowing, draping and sagging a new affront to her most preciously guarded asset.

While many women try to pretend they’ve still “got it,” even at the ripe old age of thirty, they inevitably have to either get off or get thrown off the “cock carousel.” At this point the more savvy women glom onto some convenient “beta male” who, while somewhat lacking in sexual appeal, will at least be a good husband and provider for them – and in many cases the children they’ve had with alpha male seed. Those women who don’t accept the new reality are destined to end up alone and childless, surrounded by cats.

To borrow the phrase South Park used in its episodes about Scientology and Mormonism, this is what manosphere men actually believe. Not only that, but they claim that this fairy tale is based on real science.

So who are these mysterious alpha males that get the women so excited? As one guide to pickup artist (PUA) lingo puts it:

In animal hierarchies, the Alpha Male is the most dominant, and typically the physically strongest member of the group. For example, in wolf packs, the “alpha wolf” is the strongest member of the pack, and is the leader of the group. This position of leadership is often achieved by killing or defeating the previous Alpha Male in combat. Alpha wolves have first access to food as well as mating privileges with the females of the pack.

Social status among human social groups is less rigidly defined than in the animal kingdom, but there are some recognizable parallels. Although people don’t often engage in physical violence to achieve dominance, there are still recognizable leaders in different fields who have wide access to material resources and women.

Because the qualities of the Alpha Male (such as social dominance and leadership) are attractive to women, many PUAs have adopted these ideals as models of emulation. In fact, the term “alpha” has come be shorthand for the qualities of an attractive man, and it is a common refrain among PUAs to be “more alpha” or to “out alpha” competitors.

There’s a certain logic to all this. But unfortunately for the PUAs and other manospherians the notion of the Alpha male is based on bad science. The notion of Alpha dominance, as the definition above notes, came originally from studies of wolf packs. Even if we assume that wolf behavior is somehow a good model upon which to base our understanding of human romance  – as manosphere men and evolutionary psychologists tend to do – the science behind the Alpha male wolf has now come completely undone, with many of those who promulgated the theory in the first place decades ago now explicitly repudiating it.

The problem, you see, is that the studies underlying the notion of the alpha male wolf, who aggressively asserts his dominance over beta males in order to rule the pack, were all based on observations of wolves in captivity. In the real world, wolf packs don’t work that way at all. Most wolf packs are basically wolf families, with a breeding pair and their pups. When male pups reach adulthood, they don’t fight their fathers for dominance — they go out and start their own families.

As noted wolf behavior expert L. David Mech, one of those who helped to establish and popularize the notion of the alpha wolf in the first place, explains on his website:

The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history.

One of the outdated pieces of information is the concept of the alpha wolf. “Alpha” implies competing with others and becoming top dog by winning a contest or battle. However, most wolves who lead packs achieved their position simply by mating and producing pups, which then became their pack. In other words they are merely breeders, or parents, and that’s all we call them today, the “breeding male,” “breeding female,” or “male parent,” “female parent,” or the “adult male” or “adult female.” In the rare packs that include more than one breeding animal, the “dominant breeder” can be called that, and any breeding daughter can be called a “subordinate breeder.”

So the dominant male wolves – those whom manosphere dudes would still call the alphas – achieve this position not by being sexy badasses but simply by siring and taking responsibility for pups. To use the terminology in the manner of manosphere dudes, alphas become alphas by acting like betas. That’s right: alphas are betas. (For more of the details, see this paper by Mech; it’s in pdf form.)

Also, they’re wolves and not humans, but that’s a whole other kettle of anthropomorphized fish.

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some guy bored with your schtick
some guy bored with your schtick
12 years ago

Thank you, I have some notion of hearing that about alpha wolves but had never been pointed to the website of L. David Mech. And it’s tremendously rare to see anyone discuss how much their earlier books are wrong and need to stop being published.

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

@worldanonymous @Sharculese – LOL. No worries. It’s kind of a bad Randroid season. Election years, man.

katz
12 years ago

You what else humans aren’t? Fucking wolves.

Well, I should hope humans aren’t fucking wolves.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Bagelsan – I suppose either interpretation is relevant in this context.

thebewilderness
12 years ago

I don’t know what the bar scene is like these days, but it used to be that small neighborhood bars were pretty much like friendzones.

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

You what else humans aren’t? Fucking wolves.

Well, I should hope humans aren’t fucking wolves.

– The wolf fucker is such a brave soul they’re kind of the ultimate alpha of bestiality though.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

It’s true that if I carry it through to its logical conclusion, I’d be a rapist,

No shit, and that’s why we think you’re creepy as fuck, Eurosabra. How the hell does your empathy work with all the “mild gaslighting” you do?

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

@clairedammit there are many different shades on the spectrum to be sure, but alpha and beta are useful archtypes

Maybe, but the map is not the territory.

One must also keep in mind that models are just theoretical constructs, and reifying them leads to disaster.

Even at that your, “useful archtypes” are fraudulent; the models don’t map to the real world behaviors you are trying to define, examine and use.

So they aren’t useful at all.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

But anyway, I just adore Eurosabra’s logic here. Studying the behavior of some of our closest genetic relatives can tell nothing, nothing I say! about human nature, but fairy tales using terminology from outdated theories about the social interaction of wolves reveals the deepest truths of our souls.

Kakanian
Kakanian
12 years ago

So… all PUAs who are going to stop acting like prison rapists and have lots and lots of children and a stable family that successfully manages to socialize their offsprings in order to maintain their alpha status instead please stand up.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

But anyway, I just adore Eurosabra’s logic here. Studying the behavior of some of our closest genetic relatives can tell nothing, nothing I say! about pony nature, but fairy tales using terminology from outdated theories about the social interaction of wolves reveals the deepest truths of our souls.

But wolves are sooo much cooooler than monkeys man, you’re just jealous of my wolf swaq.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Also @aworld

Hey, you’re Canadian? Me too! Which uni are you going to? (if you’re comfortable saying)

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

mountains of evidence favoring the Alpha/Beta hierarchy in humans

Would you be willing to share?

“Why wouldn’t I like the social order that has ensured our survival for millenia?”

That would be hunting, farming, sharing, and fucking.

I’m all for those.

It’s the other shit people like you try to tack on as, “essential” that I can do without.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

So… all PUAs who are going to stop acting like prison rapists and have lots and lots of children and a stable family that successfully manages to socialize their offsprings in order to maintain their alpha status instead please stand up.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

@Ugh

Saint Thomas University in New Brunswick, it’s a smaller one, but it’s been rated as one of the most beautiful campuses in Canada, and it shows.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

That’s cool! Sadly I don’t know any students there so I can’t give you recommendations of clubs and stuff.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

hellkell: He “empathises” with how happy he is sure they will be once he’s tricked them into sex.

So the gaslighting is for their own good. If they knew what was good for them, he wouldn’t be forced to do it.

ostara321
ostara321
12 years ago

PUAs get science wrong, are indignant that someone pointed it out. Quell surprise.

katz
12 years ago

This is pretty much my worldview and it pretty much explains everything I’ve ever seen.

Everything he’s ever seen.

Traffic? Weather? How many birds there are on a telephone wire? All explained by alphas and betas.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Pecunium, I didn’t think a person could make him sound worse. Bravo.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Traffic? Weather? How many birds there are on a telephone wire? All explained by alphas and betas.

Kind of like Randroids and their constant “the market applies to everything” logic.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

And I didn’t think I’d ever blockquote fail twice.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
12 years ago

Shrug. Well enough, I suppose. I do a lot less talking about myself these days, and a lot of women want to talk a lot about themselves, or are too busy pushing past me to the “stereotypically hot guy”, so I don’t have to outright lie about the stuff that almost never comes up anymore. Why would I reveal a history of depression, except if I suddenly wanted to get UNlaid for a very, very long time? (It is possible that my neighborhood has enough of a hangover from Orthodox Judaism that it’s very, very stigmatizing to cop to MI, much more so than other places.)

Sharculese
12 years ago

I do a lot less talking about myself these days

cool maybe you could practice that here as well

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
12 years ago

What’s hilarious is how often MRA types claim that the Alpha heirarchy is both The Natural Order Of Things and The Worst Injustice In History–often in the same breath.

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