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MGTOWers, a little late to the party, try their hand at a Downfall parody video

How to make a hilarious “Downfall” parody, in two steps.

Step One: Make one like this.

Step Two: Don’t make one like this.

Naturally, the second video here went over like gangbusters on the Men’s Rights subreddit.  One critic declared:

Another had this suggestion:

I dunno. “Your_Fun_Counselor” doesn’t really strike me as being very much fun at all.

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pecunium
8 years ago

Joe: You are missing my point…. when it’s boiled down… It’s all money. It’s not what you back it with (or don’t) it’s how it’s used.

You, however, are convinced that I am calling you a fool about gold. I’m not. I’m calling you a fool because you think there are different kinds of money; in some real sense. Money is an abstraction. The different currencies (and there are lots of them, in every community) are different ways of abstracting things.

But the MONEY you are ranting about, the stuff you “avoiding” because it’s not real… any transaction which uses an abstraction is using MONEY.

cloudiah
8 years ago

You strike and strike and strike against us. No actually, we just don’t care.
You threaten us and grasp at us. Well, that’s never happened, but whatever.
You tempt us. Ewwwww. If you think we’re tempting you, please tell us what we’re doing so we can stop. Ick.
You berate us and shame us and demean us. Eh, when you say self-aggrandizing or stupid shit, we mock you. If it bothers you, we suggest you stop saying self-aggrandizing or stupid shit. Or, you know, go away.
By ceasing to pursue all the things society insists we must desire. We win. Okay champ, that’s great. Now will you go away already?

Sharculese
8 years ago

You’re doing an Ugh and desperately looking for anything to disagree about and pumping that up to be everything. It’s pathetic, to be honest.

and your doing a first joe and throwing a pissy tantrum because nobody else will make every little pedantic connection in your rickety chain of reasoning. so i guess it would be in everyone’s interest for you to go bore someone else instead of flipping out here?

pecunium
8 years ago

Cloudiah: Only if you tell him how much you’ll miss him when he’s gone.

This, of course runs the risk he’ll believe you.

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Ugh – Not in the UK they’re not: as I’ve mentioned before most of our working class is indigenous (certainly outside London, Midlands & Leeds/Bradford). Nor in Spain. Nor in Mexico. You have a very parochial US-view of the world. You do know the US is only 1/3rd of a billion in a world of 7billion people, right?

@Pecunium – and you’re still doing it. Borrring.

Sharculese
8 years ago

Eh, when you say self-aggrandizing or stupid shit, we mock you.

don’t forget when he goes off on racist tangents about teh evil mu5lims

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

Ahahahaha! One of the points of living on a boat is they don’t know you do. Or where you are. Or what you buy.

They don’t give a shit. All they care is that you are buying. And, in your case, selling their stuff for them.

I’m currently self-employed simultaneously in three different fields: teaching, web research & SEO consultancy, property management / handyman.

So what you’re saying is, you help companies sell products for a living?

If everyone lived at the level of consumerism I did on my boat the giant corporations would be bankrupt in a couple of months.

If everyone lived at a lower level of consumerism, you’d be out of a job. Not much money in SEO if noone’s buying shit on the internet.

Also, obviously, most of the world does live at a lower level of consumerism than you do. If you spend more than a dollar a day you are consuming more than the world’s median person.

pecunium
8 years ago

Poor Joe. He gets it wrong, and then gets bored of being corrected. If he didn’t get it wrong, he might be better entertained.

Would be a bit more dull for us though, were he to stop paying homage to Terpsichore.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Yeah, Pecunium, don’t you realize the goal posts are over here now?

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

*$2.25 i guess, more accurately.

Sharculese
8 years ago

@Ugh – Not in the UK they’re not: as I’ve mentioned before most of our working class is indigenous (certainly outside London, Midlands & Leeds/Bradford). Nor in Spain. Nor in Mexico. You have a very parochial US-view of the world. You do know the US is only 1/3rd of a billion in a world of 7billion people, right?

there is always someone on the bottom rung of society to fill in when you get all huffy and stomp off dude. i know being sneerily pedantic is all you have going for you, because your argument is stupid and your just trying to make yourself feel important for living in a cave and whining about women, but still, it is not really a way to argue things.

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Pecunium – Wrong again.
There’s a HUGE difference between money that charges people for using it (i.e. USURY. Money created by “selling” interest yielding “bonds” to a small group of bastards in return for the privelege of using that money. That’s the $, the £ and the € among others.)
vs. Money which is does not carry any charge to use it.

Sharculese
8 years ago

Ahahahaha! One of the points of living on a boat is they don’t know you do. Or where you are. Or what you buy.

well we know what he’s buying. tinfoil. lots and lots of tinfoil.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Whoops, thread’s pickin’ up.

Get the washing inside, it’s gonna be a big one!

pecunium
8 years ago

Joe: Money is alive? Who knew? Where do I pay it the charge I am required when I use it?

Maybe it’s not the MONEY that does it, but the monetary system in question?

Wonder who might have said that here before? Shit… it’s escaping me.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Well Sharculese, since you called him a racist that just proves YOU’RE A BIG RACIST. In JoeWorld, anyway. Sorry, that should be J03w0r7d, so the NSA doesn’t find out.

Sharculese
8 years ago

There’s a HUGE difference between money that charges people for using it (i.e. USURY. Money created by “selling” interest yielding “bonds” to a small group of bastards in return for the privelege of using that money. That’s the $, the £ and the € among others.)
vs. Money which is does not carry any charge to use it.

ah yes the age old difference between ‘shit angry people make up to rant about’ and ‘shit that exists, like in reality and stuff’

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

There’s a HUGE difference between money that charges people for using it (i.e. USURY. Money created by “selling” interest yielding “bonds” to a small group of bastards in return for the privelege of using that money. That’s the $, the £ and the € among others.)
vs. Money which is does not carry any charge to use it.

So what money does not carry any charge to use it? Usury isn’t tied to a bank note. I can always say I’ll lend you 5 troy ounces of gold now if you’ll pay me 6 troy ounces of gold in a week (for example). Good on you if you don’t need the money, but plenty of people will (that’s how paycheck advance places get their hooks into people).

Oh, and calling us Yanks “parochial” is a hoot coming from a guy who doesn’t know the first thing about politics outside of his own country.

Sharculese
8 years ago

Sorry, that should be J03w0r7d, so the NSA doesn’t find out

dont you mean the ns6?

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

@Joe

Well, across Britain more immigrants apply for shit jobs than native Brits, so if there are more Brits working, its more likely to be the result of discriminatory hiring practices.

http://www.good.is/post/experiment-finds-immigrants-apply-for-low-income-jobs-much-more-than-natives/

Not to mention illegal jobs that aren’t advertised, which would obviously attract a much higher proportion of immigrants.

katz
8 years ago

if they MGTOW

“men going their own way” is now a verb?

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Sharculese – Yeah, yeah, you keep telling yourself that there’s an infinite supply of replaceable protein robots to keep the systems of your society running in the style you enjoy. Keep on fiddling with your privelege.

It never crosses your mind to wonder: when the peaceful MGTOW movement effectively pulls out the bottom rung – what if the next influx of the downtrodden won’t put up with all this shit? What if they rise up against the system? What if they overturn YOUR class privelege?
What if the sewer system stops working? What if YOU have to go work down a sewer?
(On average sewer workers in Paris live 17 years less than the average French person)

There’s riots going on in Spain, France and Greece. The crops are failing across the US. Enjoy your smug complacency in while you can.

Also, fuck off bigot!

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

@katz: Silly katz, grammar is a conspiracy of elementary-school teachers to keep MEN out of writing so that the only thing published is romance novels (you know how women love Harlequin).

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

So, you see, the best way to get back at elementary-school teachers, and prove that men can too write good novels, is not to write novels at all. That’ll show ’em.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
8 years ago

The First Joe, how many MGTOW are there? 1000? That’s being generous. How could such a tiny number of malcontents have any effect on the rest of the world? You go ahead live on a boat and the rest of the world will go on just fine.

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

Yeah, yeah, you keep telling yourself that there’s an infinite supply of replaceable protein robots to keep the systems of your society running in the style you enjoy.

I don’t know about robots, but there are a lot of people in the world who would take a job in Britain if they could. There are 200 million unemployed job seekers out there. And the worldwide median wage is $2.25 a day. I don’t think it’ll be challenging to find a handyman willing to work for 10 pounds an hour.

It never crosses your mind to wonder: when the peaceful MGTOW movement effectively pulls out the bottom rung

Oh no, what will we do without all the SEO consultants? Our search results will be so un-gamed! Our very way of life would fall!

There’s riots going on in Spain, France and Greece.

Due to unemployment. Not due to being upset that they’re expected to work. That’s the difference between an actual movement and the MGTOW.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Also, fuck off bigot!

I guess we been told. Oh snap, &c.

cloudiah
8 years ago

J03, y0u d0 kn0w that th3r3 ar3 p30pl3 h3r3 wh0 ar3 actually 50c1al15t5 and anarch15t5 and w0rk1ng cla55, r1ght? W3’r3 ju5t n0t rac15t c0n5p1racy th30r15t5 l1k3 y0u.

Wow. That is hard to read.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

@speedlines: Not your fault, but I clicked over from your Onion article to one about how much fatter this year’s kindergarteners are than last year’s, so now I has a mad, and am reminded of why I don’t go to the Onion regularly >:(

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

What if the sewer system stops working? What if YOU have to go work down a sewer?

I actually did work on flood repair out of high school. It sucked. I end up leaving to work at a coffee shop for half the wage. Other people didn’t, because they wanted the extra money.

I love how Joe thinks that everyone could just walk away from their jobs. It’s like, if they could walk away, and wanted to walk away, they already would have walked away, because it’s a shit job. You can’t even walk away from hawking products for the EVIL CORPORATIONS, so why do you think other people would give up their livelihoods?

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Pecunium –

OMG you’re a MORON.
This is basic monetary economics!
Here let me break it down for you.

1) US gov’t gives privately owned Federal reserve Xmillion T-bills yielding Y% interest
2) Fed prints* Xmillion Federal Reserve Notes ($ bills) gives them to gov’t
OR adds however many zeros to an entry on the system.
3) Gov’t collects TAX from population to pay the Y%interest. i.e. you PAY to use $FRNs.

(*actually they just give authority to a gov’t agency to print it)

Or:
US gov’t sells the same interest yielding T-bills on the “open” bond market (lately it’s mostly the central baks buying here). This has the same effect as above. Tax PAYS the interest, i.e. you pay for the existence of $money.

Or:
1) Private or public borrower applies for a loan
2) Bank creates the $ money by “fiat” out of thin air on computer (fractional reserve system – called “alchemy” by the governor of the Bank of England) and charges % interest on that.
i.e. they PAY to use those $.

At NO POINT is the interest part of the money supply created. It must be gotten from someone / somewhere else, or further borrowing must occur to pay it.
This = a funnel of actual real wealth to the banksters, for doing nothing of any note other than running a computer system.
And a continually growing, inevitable spiral of debt and interest charges.

Most people’s minds recoil at this, and refuse to believe that such a simple and obvious rip-off Ponzi scheme could be the basis for our world currencies. It’s true though. Read Lietaer. Or actually any number of a shitload of bankers and politicos past and present. It’s an “open secret”, not concealed at all.

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Ugh – you’re quoting “research” by the Daily Heil. A racist, anti-immigrant newspaper that actually backed Mosely’s fascist Blackshirts in the lead up to WWII. That makes its research and conclusions pretty fucking suspect. Especially on immigrants and jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Inter-war_period

indifferentsky
8 years ago

So living on a boat. ‘they don’t know what you buy’

What? Where do boat people shop that’s different from non boat people?
What are you talking about?

indifferentsky
8 years ago

Hey, don’t talk shit about The Phantom Menace…
o.0

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

@Joe

You’re quoting research out of your own ass. Maybe you could post something supporting your views instead of about events that happened 60 years ago?

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

What? Where do boat people shop that’s different from non boat people?
What are you talking about?

Beedle’s Shop Ship. He don’t pay taxes to nobody.

katz
8 years ago

Why a boat? Why not the traditional van down by the river?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

just because you wank to it doesnt mean it’s a profound moral statement.

Wasn’t the point of casting Edward Norton and Brad Pitt together so that people would wank to it? Did I miss something? *baffled*

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

Beedle used to live on Outset Island, but them the FemiSoviet Bankers devalued the rupee.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

The Fed is privately owned? HUH?

I guess if you’re a total fucking crank it’s owned by the Rothschilds and the Illuminati.

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

Lax banking regulations meant that anyone could generate rupees by entering an area, breaking a pot, and then leaving the area.

indifferentsky
8 years ago

Ah, thank you Falconer!

Also hilarious you’re the one joking about phantom menace XD.

Gametime
Gametime
8 years ago

@Gametime – it was YOU that equated banksters with “Jewish”. Guess what? There’s millions of Jews who are NOT banksters!! Surprise! YOU fucking RACIST!!!
You’re also an apologist for a global 0.001% class of globalist criminals who are responsible for breathtaking crimes against humanity. You are a pathetic BIGOT.

Joe, you are honestly too easy to rile up. C’mon, dude, at least make it a little difficult for me.

But it’s a good thing you told me some Jews aren’t bankers! I would never have known that otherwise, because all this time I’ve been assuming that I’m a banker and my mother is a banker and my brother and sister are bankers! Thank goodness you stepped in to correct my ignorance about us Jews.

It also continues to be hilarious that you think “recognizes racist dogwhistles in screeds against shadowy international bankers” translates to “loves bankers.” Because there is definitely no other option.

P.S. You know Judaism is a religion, right? Not a race? So why are you capable of understanding that it’s possible to be racist against Jews, even though Judaism isn’t a race, but you can’t wrap your sausage-head around the idea that it’s possible to be racist against Muslims, even though Islam isn’t a race?

Bonus points if you can write your answer without calling anyone a BIGOT in all caps. (Seriously, dude, there are better ways to emphasize words. Lay off the shift key.)

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@bionicmommy – you’re late to the party. You missed the whole grass eaters of Japan thing, that’s a HUGE thing.

MGTOW is a label that came along after stuff that already happened. All those “where did all the good men go?” and “why won’t men ‘man up’ get a better job, marry and pay for kids?” articles you see everwhere, are about MGTOW.
I’ve been MGTOW for years, long before I was aware of the term.

Feminism was/ is all about women getting everything they want(ed).
MGTOW is men responding to a (post-)feminist society with:
“Well ok, that’s super nice for women – Aaaaand they can pay for all that themselves. We’re not signing up for those bills, especially when we can be dumped, kicked out, made homeless, jailed and lose our kids on a whim. We’re going to go get what we want, instead of what society told us we should want. Good luck. If you need anything fixing these are my hourly rates.”

Social conservatives in the USA are shitting bricks about MGTOW. Even if they are completely unaware of the clunky acronym.

@Ugh – strawman, again! MGTOW is not giving up work entirely! It’s working just enough for yourself and no more. I live on less than the tax-free allowance level in the UK. About 1/5th of what I used to earn in my last salaried job.
Western society was built on the EXCESS labour of men over and above what they need for themselves. The motivation was respect, a home, a wife and kids, and a retirement. That whole paradigm has been demolished, and men are down-scaling in droves.

Also, hahah! Nice try on the guilting and the fear mongering. I’ve kept the details about what I do / can do for a living to a minimum to preserve anonymity. So, I’m more versatile than you imagine. Also, as the entire system is corrupt including the money, but I must interact with it to survive, I feel zero guilt about taking pay from people who want their websites optimized.

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@Ugh – you know how everyone in the US knows that Rush Limbaugh is a right-wing windbag? But UK people might never have heard of him.

Well, everyone in the UK knows that the Daily Heil is and always has been a right-wing anti-immigrant paper of dubious reliability. You might as well quote the Sun or the Star (red tops), they’d be equally crappy sources.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

So, I’m more versatile than you imagine.

OMG it all makes sense! The boat, the disdain for human women, the obsession with shiny things… Joe is a cuttlefish!

The First Joe
The First Joe
8 years ago

@gametime – fuck off bigot!

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

MGTOW is not giving up work entirely! It’s working just enough for yourself and no more.

Why is this a movement? I would call it “working less.” It’s adhered to by both men and women.

Could it be that the difference between people who “work less” and people who are MGTOW is that the latter mostly just wants to complain to make people agree that they’re so important and so hard done-by? Like you’re doing right now?

Western society was built on the EXCESS labour of men over and above what they need for themselves.

Nice try on the guilting and the fear mongering

I wasn’t guilting, I was pointing out hypocrisy. I know other people who work in marketing. They’re nice.

How was I fear mongering? Do you even know what that term means?

Also, as the entire system is corrupt including the money, but I must interact with it to survive, I feel zero guilt about taking pay from people who want their websites optimized.

I guess it’s true what Jeff Goldblum says, everyone needs rationalizations. So what you’re saying is, normal people with their evil companies and evil consumerism are ruining the world, but those evil companies pay for your boat gasoline with money normal people pay for their evil consumer products.

Yeah Joe, you’re really sticking it to the man. You’re bringing down the system one http://www.bedbathproducts.com at a time.