So over on Chateau Heartiste, the Dude Who Used to Call Himself Roissy seems personally affronted that the female athletes in the Olympics, by and large, didn’t live up to his wet dreams of Perfect Womanhood. In one post, he hails a Turkish newspaper columnist (yes, the same one we talked about here) who complained about the allegedly unwomanly bosoms of female Olympians, and offers his own less-than-complimentary assessment of their looks:
Who with the eyes to see hasn’t noticed the narrow hips, the grotesque six-pack abs (never a good look on women), the chest “stubs”, the linebacker shoulders, and the manjaws of an inordinate number of the female Olympians?
So why does it matter that Roissy/Heartiste couldn’t get a boner watching the Olympics? Apparently because these women are violating the PRIME DIRECTIVE, which forbids representatives of the United Federation of Planets from “intervene[ing] in matters which are essentially the domestic jurisdiction of any planetary social system.”
Sorry, that’s the PRIME DIRECTIVE from Star Trek. These gals are violating what Roissy/Heartiste thinks are mother nature’s PRIME DIRECTIVES (plural) for women, which are to look pretty and make babies. No, really. You see, women aren’t actually supposed to be, or look, athletic. It’s SCIENCE.
[W]omen must conform more to the male physique ideal in order to compete successfully in sports, and particularly elite sports, because women’s natural bodies are not evolutionarily designed to run, throw, fight or lift optimally like men’s bodies are designed to do.
Yeah, there’s no evolutionary advantage in being athletic, if you’re a gal. Evidently female hunter gatherers during humankind’s “environment of evolutionary adaptedness” didn’t ever run or throw or carry or fight anything or anyone, spending most of their time hanging out in cave clubs and texting their friends on their Smart Rocks.
Women’s bodies are — and I know this will get under the skin of the right sort of losers — shaped by the relentless laws of nature to fulfill TWO PRIME DIRECTIVES.
Visually please men.
And bear children.
Everything else women do is commentary.
Apparently Roissy/Heartiste has become an amateur Torah scholar. (And not a very good one, at that.)
You might be wondering: if Roissy/Heartiste really believes in all the evolutionary psych crap he constantly spouts, why on earth would he care that some women aren’t fulfilling their evolutionary duty to give him boners? Won’t they just get bred out of existence? What does it matter to him?
Well, evidently Roissy/Heartiste was feeling so defensive about people asking this very question that he wrote a whole other post explaining, sort of, why he cares. Sorry, why he totally doesn’t care.
The issue being raised was never about how much it personally mattered to me, or affected my own life. That’s the problem with you unthinking liberals — you always want to reframe an argument you find distasteful, or you find yourself on the losing end of, into a personal matter, a position from which it’s easier for you to morally strut and preen and preach fire and brimstone from your tawdry little masturbatoriums.
Yeah, you strutting masturbatoriumizing liberals! How dare you ask him why he spends so much of his life complaining about the bodies of women who don’t give him boners?
He continues:
The morality, or lack thereof, of manned-up women competing in the Olympics is not the point of the Olympic female athlete post. No one’s rights are abridged if some manly swole she-beast hoists 400 lbs above her head, nor is any moral law du jour violated. The point here is to remind the losers and equalists and assorted anti-realists that there is nothing inherently empowering about female sports participation unless one defines empowerment as “becoming more man-like”. It is also to address, honestly and truthfully, the obvious fact that a lot of female athletes are just quasi-men, in appearance, musculature and temperament.
Boy, there’s a brave and original notion.
Therefore, the encouragement of women by the media industrial complex into elite sports mostly rests on a foundation of denying women their feminine essence.
Huh. In his first post on the subject, Roissy/Heartiste complained about the “narrow hips” and “manjaws” of female Olympians. Did the evil “media industrial complex” somehow lure women into developing narrower hips and less-rounded jaws? Is Roissy/Heartiste some kind of Evo Psych Lamarckian?
A nation that wasn’t fucked in the head with an overload of kumbaya horseshit would not shy away from this bald truth of the reality of sex differences, and would realign its cultural incentives so that a proper balance was restored, reflecting innate biological reality, until sports programs and funding return to what they once were: mostly geared toward men.
If “innate biological reality” demands that women remain unathletic (and thus pleasing to Roissy/Heartiste’s eyes and penis), why are there any female athletes in the first place? If athletic women are by definition going against nature, why bother talking about culture at all, much less the urgent need to “realign cultural incentives?”
Evo Psych types like Roissy/Heartiste like to pretend that it’s biology, not culture, that sets up the allegedly innate differences between men and women. But somehow culture matters again when people stubbornly refuse to conform to their supposedly natural roles.
At the very least, the feminist propagandizing of female sports empowerment has to end, and hand-wringing over “equal representation” needs to become a shameful relic from this ugly, god-willing bygone era.
Huh. So I’m beginning to get the impression that you do care about all this, after all.
In the comments, some dude calling himself Maximin manages to be even more pompous than Roissy/Heartiste himself, declaring that
feminism … aspires, in the name of equality, to make women in to men, but revealing, at the same time, the inherent hatred of women that is feminism. This is not equality—rather this is bigotry against women. By forcing women to act like men—to look like men, to have the musculature of men, to date like men, to have sex like men, to work like men, what they are saying is: the male body and the creations of the male body are superior to the female body and the creations of the female body. Therefore, change the female body into the male body and hence allow the female body to then create male works (and from what we have seen, these masculine women can only, at best, land in mediocrity).
And of course, it’s ugly women who are to blame for it all:
It comes from a hatred of the female—most likely from highly masculine women who are naturally more intelligent and competitive than highly feminine women. They cannot garner the attraction of men because they are ugly, so they scorch of the earth of femininity, and suddenly the scales are tipped in their favor. Beware a masculine woman scorned: she will burn down the world and rebuild it in her favor.
Fellas, be careful! If you don’t watch out, Holley Mangold will sneak into your bedroom at night and LIFT YOU OVER HER HEAD!
I’m enthralled.
And blitzgal, not all women suck. But my girlfriend does! And she’s teh awesome.
ZAO, we care so much about your life. Please tell me more about your Canadian girlfriend.
Exhibit A, my point is proven.
Wow. ZOA did our work for us…thanks, man. And say hi to your girlfriend for us. Her name’s Ruby Sparks, right?
Canadian? Last I checked she too was born and bred in the USofA.
blitzgal: Thanks for reinforcing the reputation that bitterless and humorless.
zoa is making me miss that guy who argued badly about libertarianism for like 9 hours that one day. *yawn*
@drst
Which one, IIRC Steele, Joe, and MSN all did that.
Besides, if you hunted that mammoth and missed, the stupid dog would laugh at you.
THAT FUCKING DOG! I swear, that’s where the idea of friendly fire came from.
Well, to be fair, he’s now apparently moved to “so what, my totally real girlfriend totally goes down on me!” Which still isn’t really new or exactly relevant or really helping his argument (kind of the opposite of all of that, actually). But good for you, dude. Really, couldn’t have happened to a less interesting troll.
Yes.
Same shitty emoticon use and purile BS, yeah it’s prolly him.
Besides, if you hunted that mammoth and missed, the stupid dog would laugh at you.
THAT FUCKING DOG! I swear, that’s where the idea of friendly fire came from.
-According to the book “In Defence of Dogs” (which I strongly recommend BTW) dogs weren’t really used for hunting, early humans would take wolf cubs or dingo puppies (aborigines) home with them for the simple reason cubs/ puppies are cute. The books says that in the case of Aborigines, the hunt would be more successful if they left the dingoes at home! Paraphrasing a fair bit here of course & apologies about the block quote.
The books says that in the case of Aborigines, the hunt would be more successful if they left the dingoes at home!
Well of course! This is how my attempt at hunting with a puppy would go: “*squeal!* Aww, who’s a good widdle boy! You are! You are! Dawww!” (All the animals within a mile leave the area.)
Athletes can take being objectified and being talked about as if their only use is to give me a boner! Gosh you all are such killjoys!
If athletes didn’t want to be reduced to boner-machines, maybe they should have focused entirely on reaching the peaks of physical fitness at all costs, rather than acting all coy and sexy all the time!
…Wait.
How in the fuck would ancient men pass on athleticism (a huge complicated trait) to only their male offspring? This is something these douches never explain. Genes get mixed up and swapped around, you can’t choose the sex of the offspring that gets the genes for athleticism or lady like beauty. It just doesn’t work.
I knew a guy who thought that the Y chromosome was on all the pairs of chromosomes. Actually, I’m not sure he realized there were 23 pairs. I think he thought there was just the one.
Definitely not humorless. I just laughed quite a bit at you, considering that you’re the same asshole who pompously corrected someone’s misuse of the word “your” just one page ago. I may be “bitterless,” though.
Oops! My bad. 🙁
I meant bitter and humorless.
Who is MSN?
Hah, why do they always do that? You get suspicious of them being a past troll and it’s always “who is that?”
It’s like the most obvious thing in the universe.
blitzgal: The statement I made in reference to my gf was a PUN. I do hope you realize that.
Phooey on me for thinking that feminism was the belief that men and women should have equal rights. This includes the right to put their bodies on display and the right to free speech(ohne personal threats of bodily harm). I’ve heard women talking about how male baseball players have nice asses. The only men who bitch about that are MRAs. Stating your admiration for the body of an Olympic athlete who doesn’t care what you think and you’ll never meet is a far cry from objectifying someone. All this sex negative bullshit is really getting old! How does it feel to be in the same came as jesusfreaks who have been lamenting about sex in the media for decades and blaming El Diablo for the “moral decline” of the world?
MSN/ZAO- your pun was only 2/3 of a pun. It stank.
Oops! My bad.
I meant bitter and humorless.
Aww, but “bitterless” was actually funny!
We’re not sex-negative, you twit, just because it’s not the kind of “I can do whatever to whomever whenever” sex you MRA jackholes want.
If yo actually bothered to read the site, you’d stop getting us confused with SunshineMary.