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Men’s Rights Redditors: We don’t mind your racist hysteria, but don’t you EVER try to creep-shame us!

The dude who calls himself mayonesa on Reddit is a race-obsessed right winger who moderates (and provides much of the content for) several far-right subreddits devoted to “ethno-nationalism” and “scientific” racism. He’s also an MRA and a regular poster to the Men’s Rights subreddit. When he complains there about the terrible injustices allegedly faced by white men in academia, as he does here, he gets upvotes:

This, by contrast, got him a bunch of downvotes:

Defending hetero white dudes from the evil black lesbians that apparently control academia, a-ok! Suggesting that MRAs can’t get dates: heresy!

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pecunium
12 years ago

Jarrod: You are ignoring a lot else which happened; i.e. people other than Snowy and Jumbo (e.g. me) telling you what they saw as both your argumentative, and methodological errors.

To which you are still saying, “no one told me anything of substance.”

pecunium
12 years ago

some dude: There’s 44,000 readers or so of /mr, and this guy has gotten 24 votes in favor of one comment and 34 votes against his other comment.

No, what you have is a net of 24 upvotes. Reddit quite plainly says the actual numbers are masked. They imply the aggretate counts are indicative of the ratio/numbers, but they don’t guarantee it.

But the 44,000 number you quote isn’t relevant unless you can show that the overall level of activity on comments in general makes this an abnormally low outlier (lets say more than two SD off the mean).

What matters more is the trendline (hence my question about the normal number of comments). If most comments get no votes, that’s telling. If most comments, of that nature, get +10, when the numbers are crunched, that’s telling too.

Because if most such comments get an aggregate upvote, then of 44,000 readers, the majority weren’t moved enough disagree with a comment which was upvoted. It’s ‘a tacit acceptance of the attitudes in the comment.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

HI EVERYBODY! IT’S BEEN A SHIT DAY AND I’M LATE TO THE YELLING PARTY! HOW’S EVERYONE ELSE?

pecunium
12 years ago

I’M FUCKING HUNGRY! IT’S BEEN A LONG DAY, AND ID DIDN’T GET MUCH SLEEP, AND I’VE BEEN WORKING TOO MUCH TO KEEP UP WITH THE ACTION!

BUT I’M PRETTY GOOD, ALL IN ALL!!!!

heidihi
heidihi
12 years ago

SORRY FOR YOUR SHIT DAY HELLKELL.

cloudiah
12 years ago

HELLKELL, SORRY ABOUT THE SHIT DAY. WOULD BABY SLOTHS HELP?

heidihi
heidihi
12 years ago

PECUNIUM I HOPE YOU CAN EAT FOOD SOON.

omfg sloths

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

THANKS, Y’ALL. BABY SLOTHS HELP IMMENSELY!

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

I CAN NOT OFFER ACTUAL FOOD OR HUGS, BUT I CAN OFFER A PICTURE OF A LIZARD THAT I TOOK ON THE PATIO YESTERDAY AFTER THE SUN CAME OUT.

http://i.imgur.com/OSM4J.jpg

pecunium
12 years ago

I made stir-fry with salmon, nori, sesame, smoked salt and some naga jolokia powder (not much of the last).

Mark
Mark
12 years ago

The difference between racism and what men are feeling today is that Racism is prejudice. What men are feeling today is based on empirical observation of women and a disgust in their behavior. What is discussed on manosphere sites is actual experience of men with women. No one has to tell us we should hate you. We hate you because of how you actually are, how you actually act, and our experiences with you.

I think the difference between manosphere men and feminists are that while feminists have issues with men, they don’t really hate them. At least women in general don’t hate men. Manosphere men genuinely hate women due to their experiences with them. It is a legitimate hate and not a socially pressured thing like racism. You can belittle it and shame it all you want. But they hate you. I hate you. I don’t hate you because I got divorced. It matters, but that is just a fraction of it. Actually it has been the 10 years since divorce that really put the icing on the cake. And it was the 35 years before I got married. Before you write me off as a bitter loser. I am 6’3″ blond haired blue eyed alpha with a partner count of 80 (12 of those were married women. 30 had boyfriends. Yeah, women are so faithful are they? Sluts).

We are going to war. Get used to it. There is no other way. I’m ready. Let’s throw girls. It’s already on. The rhetoric of the manosphere spreads daily and gains more converts and you are all so stupid you hurt yourselves.

The manosphere is divided into the three groups: MRAs, MGTOW, and PUA. MRAs are your divorcees that you like to shame. They are generally new to the movement. They got there after being ass raped by some woman in a divorce. The cops probably roughed him up. Lawyers certainly did and he feels shafted by the system. So he screams for legal action to rectify what he feels is a ridiculously slanted system in favor of the cunts. He wants to change the way things are to be more balanced. He is actually is on your side but he just wants to see some changes.

It will take him a bit of time to realize that all that screaming is useless. You don’t negotiate with cunts. They don’t give a fuck about real truth or justice, only that they maintain their preferential status in the eyes of government and society. They see their own truth, a relative truth. You can barrage them with facts and they just rationalize it away. The don’t think logically. They can only think in ways to preserve themselves and their situation. It is useless to fight with them.

Eventually though they come to realize after trying to talk to cunts that cunts are cunts and there is no negotiating with cunts. You fuck cunts in every way you can.

So the MGTOW guys just go away. They decide that cunts are not worth the effort and a lifetime of dealing with them from middle school on, through high school, college, dating, marriage, and dealing with flaky, arrogant, conceited, dishonest, cheating, greedy, stupid behavior all adds up to short circuit some pretty serious genetic wiring that make him not want women anymore and that it is actually happier and less stressful not to have a cunt in your life. Certainly cheaper. So when they actually decide that cunts are cunts and they leave them behind, they find they are genuinely happier and far far far less stressed. Once you go through it and you live it, there is this incredible sense of peace and contentment. No one is abusing you and beating you anymore. You can do what you want. It’s amazing. There was a lifetime show called “The week the women left” and it was about how chaotic a house is if the mom leaves the dad with the kids. So I say fucking cut the cunts out of your life and there won’t be all that stress, grief, and work that having a cunt imposes on a man. Women are so solipsistic about how much they do that can’t realize that they are the cause of it all, without them there is a Garden of Eden. When you don’t have a cunt, the mortgage she imposes on you, her fucking screaming brats, her bills. then “The Week The Women Leave” is a fucking party of football games, video games, beer bashes, called in pizza, and generally a fun time. Bonecracker, a manosphere writer states that beta male who is forced out of the herd only requires 20% of his labor to survive. 20%. That means that parasitic cunt uses 80% of your labor. Imagine the possibilities without a cunt. Imagine.

But of the manosphere guys, the MGTOW just might the best sort, at least from a cunt sort of view. They were the nice guys that got kicked around and shit on by women, ignored, flaked, stood up, and generally fucked over. So they go away, just go away quietly. They are only a little bit of a danger to you. You all scream about how they are losers and you never wanted them anyway and who cares if they go away. But many of the them made good husbands and at least they would marry off some of your competition.

People can be really short sighted in life. They only see things the way that they are for them today. Life won’t stay the way is it is for you. You will age and the world will change. It is easy to be all “You go girl” when you are a girl. But 40, then 50, then 60 will be coming for you girls and it would have been a lot easier with one of those betas on your side. You won’t have him now. He’s walked away from you and has discovered he’s happier without you and he won’t be coming back. Snort, chuckle, shame if you want. But they were the best sort of men, men that women could trust, that would have so happy to have you, to help you, and they are gone to you forever.

You girls could keep having your little cunt party as you like it and the cuntcentric society and media can keep on preaching stuff you want to hear about your empowerment. You could just let them go and say “Oh well. That’s there choice”. They still are somewhat part of society as you want it to be. They work. They pay taxes. They probably are nice guys at work. They just decided there is a better way than banking on a woman or building your life around them. They really aren’t a danger to you.

No, but you have ridicule them, call them losers, can’t get a date betas, omegas. Many are MGTOW because they are hamstrung by child support. But you mock them.

The other guys hear this and this drives them into your real enemy.

PUAs.

And you think PUAs are geeky little nerds that go memorize pickup lines. You are fucking wrong. And alpha is not the guy in the corner office. Or the leader at your church. Alpha is the guy that fucks the wives of those guys. Alpha is guy that women want to fuck. Alpha is the guy that gets under your skin, that makes you girls tingle. And PUA is far greater than the geeks learning the lines. Real alphas are just as drawn to it as the geeky boys and lot of those geeky boys don’t stay geeky after alpha school. Even Micheal Jordan had a coach. Even Nolan Ryan had someone that showed him how to throw a slider. And the real alphas are drawn to it just as much as any other man.

The PUAs are the ones that are going work little world girls. The shit that’s being written over is very dangerous to you bitches. The shit that is being said over there makes sense to the men who go there. See, the MRA and MGTOW focus on the legal or social stuff, on the greater society. The PUAs want to tear down society as we know it, woman by woman. They are the men you want and then also those that want to emulate them. They are learning the signalling cues that cause you to choose men and are learning to short circuit them. You won’t know if you have a real alpha or a fake one. But no matter, both real and fake are out to game you. To steal the bait from your trap and escape you. No, they don’t want right the wrongs of society.

The PUAS say fuck that. Cunts are cunts and here is why they are cunts and this is what to do about them, those cunts. The PUAs say men don’t whine or go their own way.

They fight.

So the PUAs are passing around some pretty damning evidence from Evolutionary Psychology about why cunts are cunts, all backed up by data showing how and why cunts are cunts. You cheat. You lie. You are hypergamistic bitches that are money motivated bitches that cannot be trusted for anything. And the rhetoric is sticking. You hear it and you are never the same again. You never see the world the same way ever again and you can’t be a sucker any more. And it’s spreading quickly.

So they teach dominance cues and general alpha attitudes.

And the basic idea is to jack a bitch up. Never be a nice guy ever again. She will cheat on you, walk on you if you do. Never marry a bitch. Never. Pump her and dump her.

Generally PUA is a much larger group than the other two camps and are growing rapidly because men don’t go in the PUA after divorce, they might, but divorcees might be more prone to go MGTOW. PUA speaks to the prime motivation of being male, getting pussy. All advertising in the world that is aimed towards men has some hidden message that this product or service will help you get some pussy. So PUA easily pings that motivation, get more pussy, never marry, get more pussy, avoid the chains of women, get more pussy, never get fucked around by women, get more pussy. Now, PUA gets draftees straight in from the boys ranks. 22 year olds that are swearing off marriage and believe the way to deal with women as they are today is to pump them and dump them. Play them. Use of their time. Push them closer and closer to the wall when nobody will want them and they go off live with their cats.

See, PUAs are winning the manosphere battle. Dalrock had a massive discussion that pulled PUAs from all groups and the topic was “How should a religious man view game?” There were those that had issues with Game because it did not allow them to live a godly life. They lost. The general consensus was that cunts being cunts you cannot trust them and be a godly man. You have the game the little cunts.

So in contest for ideological superiority, PUA is winning. PUA is the only sane response to modern cunts. It allows a man to learn practices to survive and thrive in his dealings with women yet avoid commitment, to stay away from the law, and not surrender his rights where you cunts can fuck him. No matter what the femcunts tell you bitches, you all, deep down, want family and children. PUAs aim to make sure you never get them, not like you want them. And the manboob maginas and white knights like the manboob that runs this sight can’t stand up to the real shaming that alpha is able to heap on a pussy manboob like this guy. He might hide at his keyboard, but face to face, he’ll blink. Boys don’t don’t want to be pussy like him. They want to be alpha and we are getting them on our side daily, because we promise them more pussy and no commitment. And manoob here can shame and shame all he wants but he knows we think he is girly man pussy mangina.

So here is the basic choice a young boy will face: Be a pussy mangina like manboob here, Be a quittter, Be a whiner, or Be a man. Which direction do think that boy is gonna take? Hmmm?

So alpha rules and that doesn’t bode well for you cunts. What you value and what you want you are not going to get.

Here are some of the rules.

Pass the shit tests by being an asshole. If there is question about being a nice guy or being an asshole, always lean more towards being an asshole. Bitches are bitches. Sluts are sluts. Never give a slut or a bitch an even break. Since most women are sluts or bitches it is better and safer for you to assume that All Women Are Like That. Or get raped in divorce court.

Three strikes and she’s out. Meaning she fucks you in 3 dates or you Next her. Learn to “next”. It gets easier. Next a bitch. Leave her because she is going to leave you. Leave on your terms and it hurts less emotionally and financially. A bitch will eventually leave so get out first. Any misbehavior, you next her. Any insanity, you next her. You never regret nexting, you regret staying. The most true of all alpha rules. (Notice how much the way men are starting to think of you and speak of you is the same way that black men talk about black women. I guess they just knew the truth longer when economics had forced blacks down but black woman could trade the pussy for value and the men had to fight it out on their own. Now all men are in that situation and you are now all bitches and sluts.)

$40 rule. Never take a cunt to dinner or spend money on her. Dates are for beta suckers to get played by scheming bitches. Never let her feel her value is higher than yours by paying to be with her in anyway. She will hate you for for being a pussy. Only reward her for fucking you and never pay for anything before you get the pussy. Chumps break this rule. Don’t be chump. If she genuinely is attracted to you, the money doesn’t matter. She will come over and drink beers on your couch if she likes you. If she has a problem with this then you are getting chumped. Real desire doesn’t come with a price tag. If she balks at it, next her. Do yourself a favor. Real desire isn’t negotiated nor bought. Use this as a test. Never spend money on a bitch.

Dump any girl that friends you immediately. You have no women that are friends. She is a cunt. She uses her friends. A “friend” is a second level man in her eyes. Don’t get played. Don’t be a sucker. Lovers are first level men in her life, friends are chumps that she giggles at behind their back. She is your lover or you walk the fuck away. Never help her. Never move her furniture. Never get played by a cunt. She is fucking you or she is fucking you. Chumps befriend girls and listen to their droning about the bad boy boyfriend she has and how mean he is to her. Ask her out and she says “YES” or you ignore her and walk away from her. Do not enable her fucking narcissism and egotism by waiting and pining over a bitch. She fucks you or you walk. Second most important alpha rule. You will avoid immense frustration and personal pain by following it. Don’t learn about women by induction. Act towards women by deduction. If you doubt they are bitches come to manosphere and listen to world wide population of men and their stories, from Sweden to Austrialia the stories are the fucking same. We have no political axe to grind. We want no grand sweeping change of government. But we are going win on the fucking street in our own lives where it matters to us.

She is hypergamistic. She is always evaluating her options. If you ask her out and she says “give me your number” then you walk away from her. She is playing you. She communicates covertly. You just have to listen. What she just said was “I don’t really like you that much. But maybe if I don’t get a better offer and you are stupid enough to pay and I am bored then I might go out with you, but I am not fucking you.” Even while she is with you, she continues to evaluate her options and she will leave as sure as the sun rises tomorrow when a better option arises. Your relational equity means nothing to her. She can and will justify any action no matter how dishonest, how heinous and she will shit on you. Never forget that. Look in her eyes and you see the results of 130,000 years of genetic selection in woman grabbing the best deal they could get. Never forget that she is hypergamistic. She is not a pet. She is a beast that will attack you when you let your guard down. Never forget that. Just like a boxing ref says “Protect yourself at all times”. She will never love you as you love her. Your love is unconditional. Her’s is calculated and opportunistic. Do not be a fool. Never let her get her claws into you.

Avoid cohabitation with her. Never marry her. Keep 4 women in your rotation. Learn to pick up, always be picking up, always be adding more women, delete the drag women in your harem (you like that word harem? You could have been wives but now you are a member of a harem). Set a 90 day rule. Next her after 90 days. Certainly next her when she presses for commitment. Next her for misbehavior. (There is a whole body of writing about female insanity and the repercussion for the man in that woman’s life. Where we used to stick in there with her , now we recognized things like BPD and other personality disorders common to women and when they exhibit them, we next them). If you allow yourself to get into a relationship with her, you begin to develop a dopamine based substance in your body like heroin. You develop Oneitis. You think you are in love, but you are drugged. The pain you feel when you break up is drug withdrawal, not love. If you keep 4 women, then you never develop this substance. Is she so special when you have 3 others? Is she so unique when you have slept with 50 other women in your life? Is she worth dying for? Becoming a beast of burden for her benefit? No, she isn’t.

If you do have a long term relationship, never let her get comfortable, always keep her tense, always find ways to introduce tension and drama, give her the indignation she craves, fuck with her, make her jealous, even cheat on her and come home smelling like another woman but never never resort to the pussywhipped beta behavior that was so prevalent among men for the past 40 years. Jack her ass up. Tell her no just to tell her no. Spank her when you fuck her. Treat her like shit. Be an asshole. Betas nice guys get divorced. If you doubt that, then go sit outside a courtroom. Who does she pine for? That alpha bad boy that fucked her and dumped her. Not a beta. Look a Kristen Stewart, her boyfriend Rob (Edward) was a perfectly nice guy to her. She fucked around on him with the first greater alpha she came into contact with because Rob was nice, he didn’t cause her to worry that he would leave. He got Oneitis and it cost him. Now maybe he’ll learn and stick to alpha form and never revert to beta form inside a relationship. Never cave into her just to keep sexual access. Never go along just to get along. Assert your will or she will assert hers and then despise you for letting her be the boss. Flirt with other women in front of her. Buy new underwear. Lift weights. Have women at work write down any fictitious phone number and leave it in your pants for her to find. Make yourself scarce, go out even if it only to a parking lot to play video games on your iPad. Never let her get comfortable or she will find a way to get tension and drama. Make her think other women want you. If you let her get bored, comfortable, not threatened, not believing that she needs to prove her value to you, to compete for you, then she will leave you for sure. Actually just go ahead and leave her first.

Be aware that any woman with more than 10 lovers is a divorce risk. Any woman over 30 has a serious probability of having more than 15 lovers, so in general avoid any long term relationship with women over 30. She might be a slut and sluts cheat and leave. This is the most pervasive and powerful meme from the PUA world, the cock carousel. She fucks her way through her 20s, then when she is older than 29 and all the alphas she wants now want the younger version of her and those younger versions are throwing themselves at him just like she used to do, then she has to settle for the beta provider to marry. After having a child with him, she dumps him to return to her fabulous single life again. So if you trust any woman over 30 and are stupid enough to marry one then you can expect to get fucked over.

Women have a divorce fantasy. That want to get married but they don’t want to be married. They wish to return to being “classy and fabulous” like when they single and fuck alphas in the bathrooms of nightclubs and not be any beta man’s wife. They want to return to all the men fawning over them, or so they fantasize. Look at the cover of any woman’s magazine. Some star having a wedding, some star having a baby, some star getting divorced, the big milestones in a woman’s life. She could give a fuck about a husband. So you never can really trust a cunt to not be a cunt. If you marry someone over 30 she probably still has a hard on for some alpha that fucked her over back in her 20s and that guy will come back to haunt you. So avoid cunts over 30. ( You girls like that one. That is one is incredibly prevalent across a lot of manosphere groups. Single women over 30 might be sluts, so avoid all of them just to be safe. Use them Game them pump and dump them. Never marry one. What else? Avoid divorced women. They are “leavers’. Avoid single moms at all costs; they are just hunting for a provider. Any women over 30 should just be considered a pump and dump or you run the risk of divorce rape. It’s called the cock carousel meme. Very powerful in the PUA circles.)

That just a taste of Alpha rules. And they are very very enticing to younger men. The boys come to PUA thinking they are gonna learn negs and pickup lines and what ends up is that get a whole paradigm shift and it zaps them. And they can never go back. They can never look at women or the world in the same way. And Manboob here thinks he can shame PUAs. They could give a fuck what a pussy magina thinks of them. The MRAs all worry about what Jezebel said or Manboob here wrote about them and there is pissy little fight between the MRAs and the Fembots with Manboob here thinking he is being somebody. But the PUAs think of Manboob here as that wimpy little pussy geek from high school that tells the big boys, the bad boys (plug your nose when you read this to get the voice that would be used. Think Steve Erkel) “You guys are just just just not cool”. Yeah right. We are so bothered.

So manboob can write all he wants that nazis are PUAs and whatever, but its a fucking big tent and for every deviant type Manboob wants to convince you that is part of MRA or PUA, there are two of the men that you cunts actually want to fuck, not like the friend job you put on Manboob here.

And this shit is growing fast. Very fast.

If I were you. I would just go ahead and accept that you started a war and this war is going to tear shit apart.

Yeah the real truth, not the TV truth or the MSN truth or the Huff Post truth is getting out and the boys are listening. You can all giggle and chuckle about fish bicycles and MRA losers. But the men you shouldn’t have pissed off are now pissed off.

And they hate you. Jeez, we just converted the religious men two days ago. They are convinced now that the church and church leaders have been co-opted by feminism and has turned its back on men. And now they accept Game (PUA) as the sane response to women. Can you imagine if Game starts sweeping through the male members of the church?

So maybe even a couple of years ago this was limited and Manboobs could beat up Roissy or Roosh and all the fembot haters could gang up. The South Africans killed Biko when that movement was small, then it exploded fast.

This will go the same way. You can notice the increase in intensity of hatred towards women on the web. It’s going into the streets pretty soon. And it’s real hatred.

Falconer
12 years ago

IS IT STILL YELLING THREAD BECAUSE I HAVE SOME STRESS THAT REFUSES TO FOCUS

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THANK YOU

inu
inu
12 years ago

@Mark –

*pat pat*

Feel better, buddy? Didja get it all out?

jumbofish
12 years ago

What the hell is mark even rambling about……

ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

I read the first and last paragraphs. Apparently the MRAs hate women. Who knew?! The rest was a teal deer, but I think that basically sums it up.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Just a bunch of “You’ll be sorry when the revolution comes!” keyboard warrior kinda bullshit.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Mark, cool story, bro. U mad?

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

What the hell is mark even rambling about……

I’ve no idea…… think he might have had a bad hair day.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
12 years ago

Maybe his bottom hurts because he sat in a misandric chair.

Sharculese
12 years ago

im not reading that

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

Oh great, now I’ve got that line from John Carpenter’s The Thing stuck in my head:
“I dunno what the hell’s in there, but it’s weird and pissed off, whatever it is.”

Snowy
Snowy
12 years ago

Pam, what have you done! Now I’m imagining Mark as a ranting head crab.

Magpie
12 years ago

Mark wants his own post, I reckon.

cloudiah
12 years ago

I think someone once told Mark “use your words” and he decided that meant he had to use all of them at once.

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