The dude who calls himself mayonesa on Reddit is a race-obsessed right winger who moderates (and provides much of the content for) several far-right subreddits devoted to “ethno-nationalism” and “scientific” racism. He’s also an MRA and a regular poster to the Men’s Rights subreddit. When he complains there about the terrible injustices allegedly faced by white men in academia, as he does here, he gets upvotes:
This, by contrast, got him a bunch of downvotes:
Defending hetero white dudes from the evil black lesbians that apparently control academia, a-ok! Suggesting that MRAs can’t get dates: heresy!
Is this the best you can come up with, Dave? The cackling in henhouse clearly approves, so whatever works.
THIS IS A YELLING THREAD SO IT IS OKAY, HEIDIHI. FEEL FREE TO USE YOUR OUTSIDE VOICE ANY TIME.
I’ve been imagining that a non-detail oriented thinker is someone who gives the orders and leaves it up to his minions how to get it done. Since all of these non-detail people are men and all women are minions, it would work out so well for them, if it weren’t for our pesky education system.
I went to public schools in the U.S. in the 70’s and my son in the 00’s and the only significant difference I noticed was that we worked individually almost exclusively and he worked in groups frequently, especially on projects. I wonder if it’s cooperation vs. competition that’s being coded as female vs. male by these guys.
MY PROBLEM IS THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Did academia teach you to be so godamn full of yourself too? Keep calling yourself smarter than us and using your gender studies papers as why. That will totally go well here.
I am really sick of your, “you all just are too stupid to get my brilliance!!” so ya know what? I am not gonna be nice ans say fuck off. If you want to be a good feminist man you need to fucking get over yourself first.
MANSPLAINING IS TOTES DIFFERENT, DUDER! I’M JUST OBSERVING THAT YOU TALK ABOUT YOURSELF A LOT! WHICH YOU DO! YOU’RE STILL DOING IT!
HI ALL! YAY, CAPSLOCKS!!
I HAZ SPENT HOURS GRADING STUFF FOR MY MINI TERM STUDENTS.
MY BRAIN IS DED.
BUT IT IS COOLER IN TEXAS! WAS ONLY 65 LAST NIGHT, SHIVERS, WINTER IS UPON US!
CLIMATE CHANGE!
OH, AND JARROD, IF IT HELPS AT ALL, I’D RATHER READ YOUR STUFF THAN PHIL’S!
BUT SECONDING THAT THIS CULTURE ON THIS BLOG IS NOT FOR YOU.
PLUS, SOMETHING FROM THE OTHER DAY–YESTERDAY?–DEMANDING DETAILED CRITIQUES AS IF WE’RE BEING PAID TO TEACH YOU AS OPPOSED TO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GROUP’S RESPONSES TO YOU WERE SHOWING GAPS/PROBLEMS IN YOUR WRITING WAS ONE REASON I CALLED YOU ENTITLED. I SOMETIMES DO THOSE CRITIQUES ON THE BLOG WHEN I’M BORED AND HAVE TIME, BUT NOT WHEN I’M DOING A BUNCH FOR MY STUDENTS.
AND BEING FROM A WORKING CLASS BACKGROUND DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU CANNOT SHOW MALE ENTITLEMENT (AND THAT YOU MIGHT BE TREATED SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN A WORKING CLASS WOMAN)! JUST AS THE FACT THAT I HAVE WHITE PRIVILEGE AND CLASS PRIVILEGE WHILE BEING A WOMAN IN MALE DOMINATED PROFESSION.
INTERSECTIONALITY; IT IS COMPLICATED!
Hi-de-hi Heidh i- (It’s a middle-aged Brit thing).
I kind of figure that’s exactly what they mean by “non-detail oriented thinkers”. Like “wah wah, I came up with the idea, why isn’t everybody heaping on the praise for me? Those schleps just did the data entry”. You know what though? I work at an academic institution and at least in my department and a lot of ones we liaison with, the people who are highest up on the pay scale are the so-called “big picture” people. Those of us who are detail oriented and have to make the shit happen for our superiors aren’t really that much rewarded for being “detail oriented”.
It’s a bit different from the student end, for sure, but that’s because as a student you are expected to wipe your own ass and examine your ideas and make them happen. Not just vomit out random thoughts and expect everyone to praise them as gold. That’s not the point of academia.
I’M LATE FOR THE YELLING PARTY, WHAT DID I MISS?
I think “non-detail-oriented” people are the ones who wank about their final exam grade, like “I totally understand the second law of thermodynamics, but you just asked a bunch of stupid questions about how long it would take a two pieces of metal to reach the same temperature and stupid stuff like that!”
@Bee
I’ve only ever seen that used as dogwhistle anti-Asian racism, with the idea being the East Asian students are really into coaching and stuch and are stealing marks rightfully belonging to the way smarter white doods getting B’s and C’s, usually with some attached bullshit about Confucian learning techniques or whatever. As a White Dude Who Goes Kinda Well-ish But Not Exceptionally At A Very Nice University And Reads As “Smart”, people say stuff like this to console me sometimes (I don’t actually want or ask for consolation, but whatever).
While there are legitimate problems with testing methods and coaching rote-learning-focused study, it’s often used as a “boo hoo those Asian people actually worked hard and they got good marks; why doesn’t my sitting around playing videogames get me marks?”. White people are rarely accused of the same thing either, and if they are, it’s girls and women. White dudes who do well? Congratulations, a gentleman and a scholar, good sir! Asians and women who go well? “We need to revise the system to help detail-oriented thinkers!”
One of my best friends is a young Asian woman and nothing pisses more off more than seeing people not realising how much effort she puts in to her very demanding medical school study and how clever and wonderful she is because, duh, it’s all coaching and inbuilt Confucian learning systems and Asian girls are so smart so it’s positive racial discrimination! Meanwhile, I procrastinate like hell, submit first drafts, and spend most of my time doing shit-all on the internet, but hey, white dude with a posh-ish voice and more hair than most, and sometimes he even wears a tweed jacket, so, woah, genius right there!
I WAS GOING TO POST THAT ALL SHOUTY BUT IT’S A BIT LONG FOR THAT. REST ASSURED THE LEVEL OF ANGER I FEEL AT SUCH SENTIMENTS DOES REQUIRE SHOUTING TO BE PROPERLY EXPRESSED THOUGH.
@Katz
Precisely!
DON’T CREEP SHAME ME BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT LURKING IS CREEPY
I LOVE PUPPIES!!1!
HANK SUP?
(brooklyn thing 🙂 )
KITTENS ARE CUTE!
Jarrod, this ain’t a class. If people tell you “That bothered me” they don’t owe it to you to give you an annotated thesis of explanation in order to prove you fucked up before you’ll accept that maybe something you said bothered people.
Nobody needs to prove to you that you said something wrong, or that your meaning wasn’t clear enough. PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU YOUR MEANING WASN’T CLEAR ENOUGH flat out and your response was to demand they prove it.
Uh, no. No proof needed. You were told. End of story. Nobody owed you anything after that. Welcome to the internet.
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