Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
Wondering: I actually know people who have whined about how they can’t get laid and it’s unfair and have gotten laid. That doesn’t mean that it isn’t shitty fucking behavior.
Sometimes entitled, manipulative assholes get laid. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to be an entitled manipulative asshole.
Okay. Go ahead and don’t feel bad. You have fun with that.
What else do you want? Nobody else to care about others either? Tough noogies on that one.
I decided not to be an artist (or a writer, or a writer-illustrator) because I’d gotten the idea that you couldn’t “just be an artist.”
Nobody told me that you couldn’t “just be a chemist,” either; turns out that if you didn’t study biochemistry (which is big right now, of course), there is extremely little you can do with a BS in chemistry.
I’m glad you got back into the field that you actually wanted to be in.
The truly hilarious part of this thread is where Womdering has just accepted the narrative offered in the original post -a second hand account of a 40 year old woman bursting into tears from loneliness- and has come to us to outraged that this in all likelihood imaginary woman has the audacity to cry about being lonely.
This imaginary woman has really pissed, huh?
Sexually assaulting your students is not the same thing as “getting laid.”
However, yes, its true that some men who are manipulative assholes have sex with some women. Still, many women are repulsed by this and it is really not the foundation of a healthy relationship.
Nonetheless, this is all beside the point becaause BEING A DECENT PERSON ISNT ABOUT GETTING SEX.
@Wondering: You should learn some basic logic. Saying “This is a bad person, because he reacts to his unwanted celibacy with misogyny” does NOT entail “If this person was good, he would get laid”.
Feminists say that misogynists should stop being misogynists, because being a misogynist is bad. We’re NOT saying that if misogynists just became good and nice, they would automatically get laid. We KNOW that’s not how it works.
Some regulars here readily confess that they live in celibacy, for example.
Wondering: I actually know people who have whined about how they can’t get laid and it’s unfair and have gotten laid. That doesn’t mean that it isn’t shitty fucking behavior.
“Sometimes entitled, manipulative assholes get laid. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to be an entitled manipulative asshole.”
Didn’t say it was. I said that it is BS that it is being a manipulative entitled asshole that doesn’t get you laid. Case in point Hugo.
@Nobinayamu: But this imaginary woman is, pretty much, a satisfactory substitute for all women, because soup.
HUGO SCHWYZER, THE ARCHETYPAL MAN-WHO-HAS-SEX
seriously do you know how disconnected from fucking reality you sound, buddy?
you also sound a little short. it is late in the day after all.
@Wondering
It’s not a perfect system, but most women will react badly to you being a manipulative asshole. Just because someone takes advantage of his students doesn’t mean that most women won’t run for the hills when you talk about how you decided to spend x amount of time on them in exhange for sex.
MRAL you are stretching a point that does not even make sense so far. Dude get over your jealously with hugo.
Nice guys are not manipulative with women because they don’t have the social skills to manipulate women. I am not sure what your point is?
You are saying nice guys are just shamed but they are emotional manipulators like hugo? Why should they not be shamed if they are according to you?
MR.AL you are stretching a point that does not even make sense so far. Dude get over your jealously with hugo.
Nice guys are not manipulative with women because they don’t have the social skills to manipulate women. I am not sure what your point is?
You are saying nice guys are just shamed but they are emotional manipulators like hugo? Why should they not be shamed if they are according to you?
“Sexually assaulting your students is not the same thing as “getting laid.”
The man has also been married 4 times, and I guess that most of them were not forced marriages.
“It’s not a perfect system, but most women will react badly to you being a manipulative asshole. Just because someone takes advantage of his students doesn’t mean that most women won’t run for the hills when you talk about how you decided to spend x amount of time on them in exhange for sex.”
So his drugged out girlfriend was also his student?
No, the difference between Hugo and a Nice Guy ™ is that Hugo is just better at manipulation.
I was thinking mostly of being married/partnered plus kids, I admit. And for me there is no other option but single and living alone, even if I am dating someone. I can’t live in the same house with another person. I could never tolerate someone being in my space that much, but obviously, that’s me.
No you were talking about nice guys claiming they get laid and calling hugo a nice guy. You were complaining that feminists only target certain nice guys and use it as shaming language.
MR.AL you are stretching a point that does not even make sense so far. Dude get over your jealously with hugo.
I was going to guess Steelpole, given the mention of “neckbeard loser,” but the mentions of Schwyzer are making Mr. Al a pretty sound guess.
>No I am pissed off that I am supposed to feel sorry for older women that are outcompeted from the meat market, but somehow at the same time I am supposed to handle my own non-existant market value gracefully.
Uh… you don’t really have any way to determine your “value” as you’re currently not up for grab, dude.
That’s if you were a product people would just walk up to and have sex with, but that only happens in porn movies, so tough luck.
@Wondering – “Nice Guys” don’t manipulate. They whine about not getting laid and feel entitled to sex. By definition. Hugo is not a “Nice Guy” he’s a fucking rapist and scumbag.
Also, aren’t you tired after all this extensive moving of goalposts you’ve been doing? Every time someone calls you on being wrong, you change your point. I thought you MRA dudes were supposed to be all logical and rational?
If hugo and nice guys are so bad why are you all insulted feminists are calling men that?
Um, obviously entitled manipulative assholes get laid sometimes. FFS.
“MR.AL you are stretching a point that does not even make sense so far. Dude get over your jealously with hugo.”
I am not jealous with Hugo. I at least have enough self-respect left to prefer being celibate to abusing my position of power to get sex.
“Nice guys are not manipulative with women because they don’t have the social skills to manipulate women. I am not sure what your point is?”
The point is that it is claimed that Nice Guy(tm) doesn’t get sex because he is a manipulative entitled asshole, Hugo proves that being a manipulative entiteled asshole is no bar whatsoever to getting laid.
“You are saying nice guys are just shamed but they are emotional manipulators like hugo? Why should they not be shamed if they are according to you?”
I am saying that Nice Guy ™ is a shaming tactic used to try and hush men who start to question things like if it is true that women can detect manipulators and assholes, why do men like Hugo get laid all the time? If feminists were serious about getting rid of those kind of men, they should start by throwing Hugo and his likes out fist, then by all means start going after Nice Guy ™
*sigh* Please read “no other option but single and living alone, even if I am dating someone” as “no other option but living alone whether I’m single or dating someone”
Clearly I need sustenance.
Ooh, he has a POSITION OF POWER guys!
You can keep saying that, dude, but that won’t make it true. You have no idea what the Nice Guy label means, despite multiple people telling you the real definition. Keep being wrong, though, I need to go find some supper.
“Also, aren’t you tired after all this extensive moving of goalposts you’ve been doing? Every time someone calls you on being wrong, you change your point. I thought you MRA dudes were supposed to be all logical and rational?”
I have never claimed to be an MRA. I am not an MRA, have never been an MRA.
The goalposts are related very closely.
I started by contrasting two similar ideas with the genders switched. To prove that somehow sexless man only has himself to blame, but sexless woman she is a victim of the patriarchy. This continues to Nice Guy ™ that is just used to shame sexless men into accepting that they are forever losers.
Boston Baby’s back? Wonderful. *eye roll*