Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
When’s your flight NWO? And since you’ve said, repeatedly, that all women are whores, please tell me what country you’ve found that has non-whore women? And after that, why don’t you give me a link to the shop where your sisters and nieces by their Mennonite clothing?
It’s different in that internet harassment is not the same thing as actual, physical violence. Seriously. Having your feelings hurt by anonymous internet comments is not in the same category as being in an abusive relationship. At all.
However, one small similarity is that both are rooted in the bullshit system of patriarchy, in which all men are supposed to be violent dominant highly sexual succesful people, and women are supposed to be submissive, victimized, and silenced people. This is why you don’t see either happening in feminist spaces.
“It’s different in that internet harassment is not the same thing as actual, physical violence. Seriously. Having your feelings hurt by anonymous internet comments is not in the same category as being in an abusive relationship. At all.”
And where is this violence in any of the cases?
“However, one small similarity is that both are rooted in the bullshit system of patriarchy, in which all men are supposed to be violent dominant highly sexual succesful people, and women are supposed to be submissive, victimized, and silenced people. This is why you don’t see either happening in feminist spaces.”
It is, you say?
So when the shitredditsays crowd starts sling neck-beard loser around, this is an example of this?
The lady this ‘electricangel’ guy is babbling about sounds more like she’s hitting menopause than going bonkers over being a 40 year old single lady. Now this jerks going to use this to manipulate his wife. I hope his wife dumps his nasty butt.
Owly/[me]: A Constructive Dialogue
(my new one man show!)
Nice to see that Owlyslave has recovered from the humiliation of making fun of someone else’s intelligence by getting the concept of grammar completely wrong, and has returned to being completely wrong about everything else.
LOL! I know, right?
I did my undergrad major in English, but then I listened to all the people (parents, bosses, and professors, or “the people a bewildered 20-year-old with no real-world experience would most likely listen to”) who told me that no one could make a living as a writer and the professorial job market is oh so hard, so I went to law school. …And then the bottom fell out of the legal market (attorney-to-job ratio is currently 100:1; English PhDs-to-tenured-professorships ratio is 5:1), I found I hated being a lawyer, and I realized I was still pining for the day when I’d have my own freshman comp class. And I started making a living as a writer.
I’d say it was easy to see what I should do after I realized all that, but honestly, I funked around for a couple years anyway. Because I felt I was OMG TOO OLD to go back to school and change careers and OH NOES WHAT IF I HATE IT and so on. But that’s mostly past now, because it’s the only thing I desperately want and I won’t know how it’s done until I do it. Whee!
“OMG IT’S ALMOST AS IF THAT’S A STRAWMAN YOU’VE ERECTED TO IMPROVE YOUR SELF-PITY”
Self-pity? I am celibate by choice. Rather be alone than being someones fifth-hand choice when the competition for first-tier has turned too hard.
“But that whole, “It’s mean that a man be told he only gets the sexual attention he deserves,” whine. Errr, if you reverse the genders, you basically get every women’s magazine on the market. Ever look at a Cosmo? Women hear this message non-stop: “If men aren’t coming around, it’s your fault for being too fat, too agressive, too smart, not pretty enough.” It’s not right, is it?”
Funny that you are so obsessed with the straw-man fallacy when you use a logical fallacy of you own. Cosmo could for all I care be teaching the strangling of kittens. It doesn’t change the fact at hand.
@Wondering
Oops, I mixed up threads, I thought this was any of the other threads today about MRAS EXPLICITLY advocating violence against women. How do you feel about those MRAs, by the way?
For this article, obvioulsy wanted to constantly remind your wife that they would be sad and worthless qithout you is abuser-y as hell. Like, it’s still pretty fucked up, though, unlike other MRA stuff, it doesn’t actually advocate direct violence. So, if that’s the bar you want to set for your political movements, I guess I can’t stop you.
ShitRedditSays != major feminist blog or feminist-only space
ShitRedditSays = blog where people mock Reddit assholes.
Neckbeard != 25 year old virgin
Neckbeard = hateful overentitled people who prefer playing the victim on Reddit to actual human interaction
I for real would not be able to tell, without context, whether these guys are describing their fucked up views on human interaction, or Diablo III’s loot system.
Poor Wondering, only has a chance with Common women because his teamates picked up all the Epic women.
The heart, it bleeds.
Dani said “I listened to all the people … who told me that no one could make a living as a writer …And I started making a living as a writer.”
Is Steele seeing this?
Wait, you’re celibate by choice, but you’re angry people are telling you that you can’t get laid?
I… thought that’s what you wanted anyway?
(Also these people don’t exist and you can’t provide any link to them, but never even mind that.)
Wondering what Wondering’s point is besides GRR YOU CRITICIZING MISOGYNY MAKES ME ANGRY AT WOMEN!
“hellkell
If my husband wanted to talk to me about the cock carousel, I’d think he’d lost his mind. And if he tried to use that as a tool to keep me in my place, buh-bye.”
Why do you choose to hide your past? Scared he might judge you? You’re an empowered woman. No man should lose their mind when he meets a slut. Who cares about her slutty past, these are for fun not wife material. Why didn’t you tell him earlier in the relationship and give him a choice to discard you or keep you. Maybe you didn’t want to get dumped? LOL
“Oops, I mixed up threads, I thought this was any of the other threads today about MRAS EXPLICITLY advocating violence against women. How do you feel about those MRAs, by the way?”
1) You seem to be under the impression that I am an MRA, I am not. I am just sick and tired of young women preaching solidarity that ends 1 attometer outside of their vagina and their wallet. Somehow randian market economy is the optimal pricing mechanism for the meat market, but nowhere else.
2) I think that if those MRAs want to tough-talk on the internet, then they can go ahead. If they do things in real life that is a felony and should be prosecuted.
“I for real would not be able to tell, without context, whether these guys are describing their fucked up views on human interaction, or Diablo III’s loot system.”
Yes, because you have never ever heard women lamenting being single and then when suggesting they try the pool of always single men, being told that they don’t want those losers, those loser men have to be single for a reason.
After a couple of itterations of that jargon one starts to get tired of the BS and starts to decide that fine, be single then but don’t come complaining when the first-tier men give you the same treatment that you give to second and third-tier men.
No, DYOR, the joke is that the “cock carousel” isn’t a thing, because sadly no amusement park on Earth is that awesome yet.
“Having sex with more than one man” is a thing, but frankly, men should be goddamn grateful for it, because it’s the only plausible way that straight men are going to get laid with more than one woman.
Do you really want to be stuck for life with the first woman you sleep with? No? Then don’t expect women to be stuck for life with their first man.
Look, wondering, I can’t explain the imaginary women in your head to you. They sound very mean.
Maybe it’s the high from my recent marriage talking, but reading this gives me sadface. Choosing to be celibate is equally cool as choosing not to be, but the massive side order of bitterness you’re nursing along with it must suck to live with.
SpukiKitty, nope, crying because you turn 40 is not a symptom of menopause. Not in the slightest. (Which happens at an average age of 51 in the US, not at 40.)
If someone is crying, it’s because they have a reason to be upset, not because their hormones are doing some different stuff than what they did last year.
“Wait, you’re celibate by choice, but you’re angry people are telling you that you can’t get laid?”
No I am pissed off that I am supposed to feel sorry for older women that are outcompeted from the meat market, but somehow at the same time I am supposed to handle my own non-existant market value gracefully.
It doesn’t work this way.
If they want to play hard-ball market economy then play it all the way. Shut up with the entitlement when you yourself are outcompeted.
“(Also these people don’t exist and you can’t provide any link to them, but never even mind that.)
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So when Amanda Marcotte gives out dating tips that sums up to “You are worthless, that is why you can’t get laid” this is a hallucination?
“Wondering what Wondering’s point is besides GRR YOU CRITICIZING MISOGYNY MAKES ME ANGRY AT WOMEN!”
I have juxtaposed two similar statements and asked why one is problematic but the other one isn’t.
Okay, can anyone parse this for me? I’m not sure whether “meat market” is literal or metaphorical, so I can’t tell whether he’s complaining that feminists are capitalists when it comes to goods and services but not to sex, or that feminists are capitalists when it comes to sex but not when it comes to goods and services.
… Actually, I guess it doesn’t matter, since either interpretation is a hilarious and baffling account of what feminists say.
I’ve told Steele that, in so many words, more than once. So far, he’s continued to insist on blaming one teacher from his past rather than, you know, writing.
I’m starting to suspect that Steele isn’t interested in being a writer so much as being a victim. / understatement
Not a hallucination, no. There’s another word for when you radically and woefully misunderstand the message behind something. (Also, protip: Paraphrasing what someone says in an obviously biased way isn’t the same thing as offering proof.)
Do you have a link to this? Just wondering.
Off the top of my head:
* The OP is about 40 women rather than 25 year old men.
* The people quoted in the OP take delight in the idea that women who don’t conform to traditional gender roles suffer because of it.
* Misogyny is systematic and its existence is well-established whereas your “any fora” assertion is both sweeping and unevidenced.
* The OP is about women rather than men.
* The OP has actual quotes whereas you have a strawman of what feminists say.
* You actually don’t deserve sexual attention that people don’t want to give you, but no one deserves to suffer just because they didn’t get married and have children.
* Feminists don’t take delight in your anxiety over not getting laid, they just think the idea that you’re entitled to sex is stupid and misogynistic.