Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
@ Shiraz
Yep – Wetherby too. Of course I’m rather underemployed right now, mostly freelancing, which isn’t great in this market. I’d love to find another editorial position so hey, fingers crossed.
(Notice the lack of wah I am entitled to this thing why is it not being handed to me just because I want it wah society is oppressing me in this comment. If I want a more permanent/better paid position it’s my job to bust my ass finding one.)
Why is it that when a woman is single for whatever reason, it is deemed mock-worthy? But when a man is single, he gets sympathy and women get hate for not giving the poor, lonely man some action (à la George Sodini)? When a woman is alone, it’s her fault. When a man is alone, it’s women’s fault. Golly, what isn’t women’s fault?
I can’t help but feel bad for boys like Electricangel, though. They have no character to keep women attracted, so they must keep their wives under strict control lest their wives find out they have better options. Guys, get a personality and you won’t have to worry about losing your women to the “carousel” (whatever that means).
I don’t want to derail too much but I hate the analogy of entitled idiots who complain that people owe them sex being the same as people who want a better paying job. Mostly because, well, nobody owes you sex but society owes you a living.
Nice “It” reference, Shiraz.
Pangea, I can’t feel bad for these guys, they made their filthy beds, let ’em lie there.
Cassandra: Wow, I didn’t know. I’m in the same position you are, by the way. My paper laid me off (and 40 percent of the editorial staff) Small world. Cheers to you and Wetherby. Nice to know you.
@Pangea. The online comments sympathizing with George Sodini haunt me till this day.
@hellkell: Thanks! Except these wondering types are nothing like Ben Hanscom, know what I mean?
@Snowy
Not sure why everything got all aggressive all of a sudden! At any rate, the “I fancy myself a Marxist” comment was not intended, as you seem to think, to “makes everything [I] said
totally fine”, but rather as evidence to express the sentiment that I do not believe the things that Jumbo attributed to me. That is all!
As for your other comment, I am extremely confused. In the section you quoted I never said that you can “use your consumption of exploitative porn to fight unfair working conditions”. What I said was that you could fight unfair conditions DESPITE using the products produced by those unfair conditions. Furthermore, even if we assume that Jumbo read the post this way, it doesn’t seem to match at all with what he was claiming in his post. He seemed to be under the impression that I didn’t care about porn exploitation because everything is exploitative, while your reading of my post clearly attributes some sort of caring about exploitation!
Shiraz, I know exactly what you mean.
😉
I trained as a print journalist, and have to say I am glad I wasn’t able to get work out of school (I didn’t get a job because a woman who couldn’t write her way out of a paper bag with a firehose didn’t get the job she thought she was getting: I think the LA Daily News finally got around to reading her clips), because it means I didn’t end up with a career that would probably have evaporated (unless I ended up a compromised shill at some major paper/working in television), and so ended up with a VERY different life than I was lucky enough to lead, and with the horrid probability of being possessed of expenses I couldn’t keep up with.
“Evaporated,” perfectly describes the industry. If publishers would only listen to David Simon. *Sigh*
@ Shiraz
Behold, the current state of the industry. Isn’t it just great? Honestly I’m grateful for whatever freelance work I can scrounge up, even though it’s not paying nearly enough. A lot of people aren’t even getting that.
Thirding the creepiness of the Sodini sympathizers. That was a wake-up call for me – I’d had no idea that there were so many guys who really, honestly believe that lack of sex with the women who you want sex with justifies anything up to and including murder. It was not a pleasant revelation.
because thats so much better *facepalm*
@drst
Oooops. Sorry about that. 🙁
@Tulgey Logger
Yes that is the Roosh post I was talking about. Thanks.
@Cassandra:
Yes! About the Sodini apologists. Some guys were posting, “See, you ladies better put out if you know what’s good for you! You don’t want to be shot, do you?” Just unbelieveable. It freaked me out, especially considering that his online journal entries were so hateful…and not just sexist, but racist too. Idiots were saying repeatedly that lack of sex could lead to murder, which is such bullshit. I don’t even think that Sodini asshole was interested in having satisfying sex….based on his own journal, he just wanted to know he could get a young chick to sleep with him.
When I woke up on the morning I turned 40, married for 19 years and with two children, my first thought was: I can’t go on like this.* I just wonder if the wife of the quoted poster ever feels like that.
I don’t think you can get to 40- or 50-something and not wonder about the roads not taken; there are so freakin’ MANY of them by the time you get here.
*Within the year I was divorced and back in school, and the kids and I were much happier. Years later, after I’d finally worked through the trauma of that terrible marriage, I even tried it again, and I’m amazed at how nice it is this time around.
PS I used to be a typographer/designer/editor back in the 80s before the Penn Square bank failure added to the rise of personal computing kind of wiped out my whole job. I like what I do now, but sometimes I really miss that work.
The thing that bothers me most about the dudes who turn up here and try to argue that it’s super unfair that women are allowed to choose their sexual partners, it’s real oppression and just as bad as X, Y, and Z, is that I’m not sure that they understand the difference between “some men may never find a sexual partner because of their personality/looks/whatever” and “women deserve to be shot for not putting out”. After reading a lot of comments from a number of different “incel” guys it seems like a lot of them genuinely don’t understand the difference between saying that some people may never find a partner and they may just have to accept that, and saying that people who are picky about who they have sex with deserve to be killed or raped because they’re responsible for the situation of the people in the first group.
@jumble
I am still unclear as to what you take my claim to be. Assuming you actually understand what I am saying, I would appreciate something other than a horse laugh to make this experience seem worthwhile. It still seems obvious to me. Another clear example: a white person in a racist society can fight racism despite receiving benefits for being white.
Sorry, Jumbo*
You know, I understand the urge to try to backpeddle when you’ve said something problematic but it’s actually a lot better in the long run to just own it. You’re confused that someone would take from this comment you made:
as saying that you can consume porn and use the porn you’re watching to somehow fight exploitation in porn? And then say that no, it doesn’t work that way? I find that very hard to believe. Just look at your comment. Watching porn is not the same as using a computer or wearing clothes that were made using slave labor. How are you supposed to protest exploitative porn by consuming it? That’s like eating a burger and being a vegan, it’s hypocritical. If that’s not what you meant and you want to clarify that’s fine, but don’t pretend that’s a totally unreasonable thing to get out of your comment.
Yeah, Cassandra, exactly. When they don’t seem to know the difference, I really question their mindset. Why would someone so terrible on the inside be getting unlimited offers for sex? He didn’t like women…and lots of other people. He deserved sex? Why exactly?
Jodioli, eesh, sorry that happened to you but glad you enjoy your current work.
No thats not the same at all. The key difference is you are born with your race and you can’t change that with porn you have the option to watch it or not. Continuing to do something despite knowing that its made from exploited means is a shitty thing to do. I would hate to see what you think of stuff like child pornography.
What are you saying then if I am misunderstanding you?
Just found this gem.
I, nearly 40 year old woman, do solemnly swear that I will never complain to Mr Al about having “lost” my “value”. Partly because I don’t believe his underlying premise, partly because I actually believe that everyone has the right to choose their sexual partners and nobody deserves sex with anyone they happen to want, and partly because why on earth would anyone who feels in need of a shoulder to cry on choose that particular shoulder?
(Maybe he has an aunt who just broke up with someone or something like that.)