Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
Count me as another one who doesn’t even understand WTF Miss Andrist is saying.
What if you woke up, opened your eyes, and saw this?
I’m calling miss andrist a troll, look where their name leads to.
@Jumbofish –
I believe “funfem” expressed my standpoint and is applicable either way.
But womanity’s not the enemy. So I’ll take the cue, thank you. Survivors, survive. <3
Cloudiah, I think I would be as confused and alarmed as from reading one of Miss Andrist’s comments!
Yup feminists are totally like that. I’m calling the banhammer on this poe.
@ Miss Andrist,
I don’t care if Wondering lives in his parents’ basement. I don’t care whether or not he watches porn. That’s irrelevant to his arguments. And it’s his arguments that we’re discussing. Now, those arguments might be so weak that they fall apart if you so much as glance at them, but that doesn’t mean that it’s fair to try to discount his arguments by claiming that he’s a porn-watching basement troll. The dude could own seven houses and never have touched porn in his life, and it wouldn’t make a difference: his arguments would still be just as stupid.
And I’m also uncomfortable with you describing porn as “rape on camera.” Are you implying that all porn actresses are being raped whenever they go on set? Or are you implying that the porn Wondering watches portrays one character raping another?
Drunken lemurs!
Okay, I’ll stop spamming now.
@Dani Alexis – Enjoy! 🙂
But I luv teh lemurssss! Moar lemurrrrr!!!!
I HATE YOU ARGABLARGAMALE RAPE PENIS PENIS CASTRATION….
Oh you are a women then you are a delightful angel of peace and I wish you good tidings dove.
Lets talk about straw feminist things now!
Way to appropriate the way rape survivors are systematically de-legitimized by the people around them for the grievous wound of being mildly insulted, MR*L.
Funny how you know enough to get that you can steal a concept like victim-blaming and re-tool it for your own selfish purposes, but you know so little about racism that you have to resort to an online dictionary to start a discussion. It’s almost—almost—as though your obtuseness is feigned and rhetorical. Almost.
Shithead.
A Poe. Yep.
One more lemur for Snowy, no one else look!
I love how “I choose my choice” is supposed to be an insult.
I mean, consider the fucking opposite.
dawwww 😀
How the hell did this electricangel creature con any woman into marrying him?
And don’t you love the way they overlook that plenty of women don’t actually want to be married, or partnered (with someone of any sex) or have children? I sure don’t, the thought is repellent. There’s also the assumption that women have all been doing this ‘cock carousel’ thing – pathetic. They think in cliches they’ve made up.
I notice they don’t seem to think men ever hit forty or so and feel sad because they think their chances of marriage and children are over. But then of course I suppose they think men are studly and gorgeous at any age, even if they look like Donald Trump minus the money. (NB there isn’t enough money in the world to make Donald Trump look less than ghastly as far as I’m concerned: rug + repellent personality = ugly.)
Wondering, we already know you want to pretend misogyny doesn’t exist. Tell us something new.
Wut is with the thing she linked to when you click her name.
HAHAHAHA. Sure you do. It’s the internet.
David’s not picking on you, we are.
WTF kind of argument is this. That’s like saying
“Why is he in jail?”
“Because he murdered someone”
“Oh yeah, well this dude murdered someone and he didn’t go to jail!! So clearly he’s not in jail for murdering someone, or are you telling me that that this dude didn’t murder someone?!!!!”
A piss poor manipulator, is still manipulative.
@cloudiah
Typical bowl of soup. Vile, disgusting, vile m-bowl of soup!
@Cliff
ppffftt, that’s so Sims 2. It’s all about playing with fire now 😛
I don’t know what’s hurting my head more, Wondering’s posts or the fact that it’s 2am and I just finished playing quite a few hours straight of World of Tanks.
I think that the misogynists are having problems understanding Perfectly Reasonable Speak, so I’ll try and break it down as best I can:
“You are allowed to find the people you find sexually attractive, sexually attractive”
DOES NOT MEAN
“You are allowed to fuck whoever you want, regardless of what they think.”
AND
“You are allowed to feel THINGS about other people (including disliking them, or finding them gross, or offensive”
DOES NOT MEAN
“You should remove their human rights, treat them as subhuman and justify abuse/genocide of said individuals.
All of these things apply to EVERYONE- male, female, straight, gay, cis, genderqueer, asexual, and everyone else in between.
I think that the problem is that misogynists seem to think that the world is “supposed” to revolve around them, and they’re hideously angry when it DOESN’T. But that’s the thing- it NEVER did in the first place. So stop blaming women, already.
As you can probably tell, most misogynists argue from this erroneous point of view- that it’s some kind of war of “who gets to oppress who” and they sure as hell don’t want it to be THEM. But the thing is, treating women like fellow HUMANS is not asking to treat them BETTER or WORSE than any other person. And abusive behavior in general is shitty and horrible- decent humans do not try and justify treating men OR women abusively- that’s just subterfuge.
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OK, and totally off topic- because the Manboobz commenters are awesome and have helped me out before- we just brought our kitty home from the hospital (he had a urinary blockage in his urethra and was in horrible pain so we had to run him to the emergency room and have the blockage drained). $1500 later, the vet is recommending “special food” for urinary health, but I’m concerned because the dry food they’re recommending has rice as one of the top ingredients, and I know that rice and other grains are bad for kitty digestive tracts. We feed him mostly wet food with dry that he “grazes” on a little all day long. Is there anything that you could suggest that is both high quality and will be gentle on his poor little tummy?
And yeah. Male cat urethras suck for being so susceptible to life threatening health problems. Why are they zig-zag shaped? MISANDRY! XD
miss andrist isn’t a troll. I’ve seen her on anti-pornography blogs. She also works in STEM, in contrast to what wondering was trying to say about humanities degrees.
You guys can argue all you want about women being free in porn, the amount of rape and coercion is certainly not 0 in the porn industry. The truth is that you cannot really tell the difference between coerced or rape pornography vs genuine freedom of choice porn from watching porn. A regular watcher of porn has to either ignore the problem or not care about it (or possibly be excited by it) in order to continue using pornography. I don’t blame miss for being pissed about such a state of affairs, its fucking horrible.
Actually, Cliff explicitly stated that “some porn is really rape on camera.”
But just because some porn is rape on camera doesn’t mean that all porn is. And in saying that all porn actresses are rape victims is simply unfair.
Women should not be forced into porn. We agree. But we can fight against women being forced into porn without dismissing women who act in porn voluntarily.
There are problems with mainstream porn and the porn industry. If we want to fix those problems, I think we should listen to what sex workers actually say rather than dismiss them as victims who are just too damaged and exploited to understand that their being raped every time they go on camera.
If you have an actual argument to make, then fine. Make it. But you don’t get to simply address your opponents by making patronizing and condescending comments without even bothering to address any of the points they raised.