Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
It’s not the worst form of racism, to be sure. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t racism. There are going to be people in any race that have features which you find sexually attractive. Discounting every black women simply because most black women don’t have certain features feels rather essentialist.
His use of racial stereotypes.
“You’ve been arguing for hours that sexual attractiveness is a currency and that we buy and sell our relationships, but now suddenly it’s not a measure of value?”
I asked why unregulated market economy is the optimal prizing mechanism on the meat market, but nowhere else. That is all.
“THIS is going to make you unattractive to women. You need to get away from this MRA nonsense if you ever want to be happy in life. Or, you can become a sociopathic manipulaator like Roosh and Roissy and bang a series of women who will never love you.”
I would prefer that to knowing that this woman only loves me as long as I keep making money. It is very weird how porn-abusing bassement troll suddenly became so attractive when he got a degree and started making serious money.
“Or, you can go full MRA and be completely miserable, and make everyone around you miserable.”
Or I can say F-U to everything, including self-righteous 40 year old “journalists” who can only make themselves feel better by picking on everyone else.
Ooh… guys he’s DESTROYED us… he pulled out the scare quotes and insulted Dave.
We can’t win now.
…But you’re not whining.
I feel like I’ve fallen into that Calvin and Hobbes strip where Calvin decides that he can make words mean whatever he wants them to mean. Wondering, you should totes be phasing right now. Far out.
I know I’ve said this before, but I’m amazed that someone who defines himself as “celibate by choice” has so much rage about not being delivered a Supermodel With Zero Expectations Or Preferences Who Will Never Leave You.
What would a celibate man need with this woman, anyway?
“I love how NAFALT is supposed to be this game-ending argument. Because obviously all feminists (including ones who don’t even know about each other, somehow) are exactly the same.”
Didn’t you promise something like 5 pages ago that you didn’t care anymore?
“Really? Telling us to shut up when we are old and used up, because you weren’t given all the pussy you wanted?
How you aren’t willing to settle for being someone’s fifth choice; and pretending that you are somehow oppressed because of it?”
Pure and total rubbish. I said that I am celibate by choice and that I prefer that to being someones fifth tier choice. I have never pretended that this is oppression.
“Going on about how nice guys can get laid, but you are abused and called a loser?”
BS once more. I contrasted that manipulation is supposed to be such a turn-off with Hugo Schwyzer, the ultimate manipulator.
“Complaining that the advice on how to make yourself less unattractive says 1: you might need to change some things about yourself and 2: isn’t a simple recipe, but has lots of things and might not be guaranteed?”
Complaining that the only advice offered was ‘change yourself, change everything about yourself’
“Telling us that saying a dude being racist is being racist and that shit’s not cool is condemning someone for having preferences in sexual partners?”
Being enraged that someone is not attracted to black women while espousing the support for preference.
“Yeah, you’re being a whiney titty-baby.”
Reading comprehension, not just for college students, anymore.
You really going to ignore all the time you spent arguing the premise described in the words you just quoted?
40 year old journalists? Who are you even talking about anymore?
“I asked why unregulated market economy is the optimal prizing mechanism on the meat market, but nowhere else. That is all. ”
Saying that the “meat market” (God!) is an actual market is saying that sexual attractiveness has value. You later denied that sexual attractiveness has value when it suited your purpose to do so.
You don’t really have a point, do you? It’s all just self pity piled upon self pity. Any half-baked argument will do to back up your nonsense; and if it happens to directly contradict another one of your arguments, well it just goes to show that feminists are mean.
“I know I’ve said this before, but I’m amazed that someone who defines himself as “celibate by choice” has so much rage about not being delivered a Supermodel With Zero Expectations Or Preferences Who Will Never Leave You.”
For a man who promised that he didn’t care you produce a lot of text. And a lot of prejudice to. Where have I made any mention of a super.model. Where have I made any mention of Zero expectations.
What would a celibate man need with this woman, anyway?”
So, I am the one suffering from halucinations. Maybe some clozapine would be in order for you as well?
UNRELATED to the not-whining: Does anyone have a good source for vintage dress patterns? I’ve had some luck with McCall’s retro line, but it’s very hit or miss. I’m mostly looking for 1950s and early 60s dresses.
@Wondering: A porn-abusing basement troll is as repulsive as ever. He’s also unlikely to notice that this woman finds him repulsive and loathes him, but in this society where the rule of everything and everyone by men like him is enforced by men’s limitless capacity for violence, she is acutely aware that she is disempowered as completely and wholly as possible to force her into a state of artificial dependency, so he finally get some pussy he doesn’t have to rent from another d00d. And yeah, she only “loves” you as long as you fulfill the only thing she needs from you. And you only “love” her as long as she continues to put out.
You can say F-U all you want, and you’ll still be wrong, and a repulsive, commercialized-rape-on-camera-abusing basement troll jerking off to women being forced to do shit they wouldn’t do of their own free will. And you’ll know it. And you’ll keep on blaming women because it’s easier than changing yourself.
Okay.. So let’s play a game of How Desperate!
How desperate would you have to be to date the Wonder bore?
I’m thinking someone would have to tie me to a chair, tooth pick my eyes open and force me to listen to ABBA for a week solid while being subjected to the water drop torture.
You notice he rebutted me, the person with the ladybrain, but not Sir Bodsworth, who asked almost the exact same question, but has a more masculine handle.
This is like Whack-a-Mole with meanings. “I mean A!” “No now I mean B!” “Now now I mean Q!”
Marcotte: “If you’re into nerdy girls, maybe read more books.”
Marcotte via W-filter: “Change everything about yourself, you worthless sack of shit!”
“Saying that the “meat market” (God!) is an actual market is saying that sexual attractiveness has value. You later denied that sexual attractiveness has value when it suited your purpose to do so.”
Yes, sexual attractiveness has value. This is not the same as saying that sexual atractiveness is the only value a person has.
“You don’t really have a point, do you? It’s all just self pity piled upon self pity. Any half-baked argument will do to back up your nonsense; and if it happens to directly contradict another one of your arguments, well it just goes to show that feminists are mean.”
Self-pity? BS, I am all for rutheless competition. But then lets play a game where everyone falls if they lose.
And you’re mocking us for reading comprehension?
@ drst – yes, I’ve noticed that in a lot of our trolls.
It is ruthless and no you are not because otherwise why would you be whining about not getting a partner who is perfect in all ways. Not perfect for you, but perfect.
“@Wondering: A porn-abusing basement troll is as repulsive as ever. He’s also unlikely to notice that this woman finds him repulsive and loathes him, but in this society where the rule of everything and everyone by men like him is enforced by men’s limitless capacity for violence, she is acutely aware that she is disempowered as completely and wholly as possible to force her into a state of artificial dependency, so he finally get some pussy he doesn’t have to rent from another d00d. And yeah, she only “loves” you as long as you fulfill the only thing she needs from you. And you only “love” her as long as she continues to put out.”
I congratulate you on totally missing the point. Bassement-dwelining porn-abuser is a very popular insult that persons with education in the humanities like to hurl at people with STEM eduction. This has nothing to do with actual consumption of pornography nor sub-tereanan dwelling.
“You can say F-U all you want, and you’ll still be wrong, and a repulsive, commercialized-rape-on-camera-abusing basement troll jerking off to women being forced to do shit they wouldn’t do of their own free will. And you’ll know it. And you’ll keep on blaming women because it’s easier than changing yourself.”
Sorry? Do you even know what you are saying now, this is victim-blaiming cubed. Change yourself? From what? Being called a basement-dwelling porn-abuser by other people as an insult? This is victim blaiming.
Dude, John Mayer did not JUST say that he had a preference for white women or that he wasn’t attracted to black women. While that statement would still have the potential to be problematic (if he focused on attractiveness as defined by racial categories rather than individual features that members of a certain race are more likely to have), it would not have been anywhere near as big of a deal.
It’s not just what John Mayer said, it’s the way he said it. It’s not just what Mayer said his own personal preferences were, it’s the way he described black women.
This has been explained to you several times, by multiple people.
@Tulgey Logger Well, your alternative is to persist in being a fundamentally repulsive human being. Which I guess includes demanding people like you and naturally want to be around you despite you being a fundamentally repulsive human being, and generally absorbing responsibility for all your deficiencies.
Gosh, that’s like the Lazyboy of social expectations. Does it come with a pre-poured bag of greasy chips? No wonder you can’t get out of it. It’s just so comfortable, having the entire universe adapt to you instead of vice-versa like The Rest Of Us have to.
What does that even mean? “Everyone falls if they lose”? So since you can’t get laid, everyone on earth should be unable to get laid and have to suffer? That’s not capitalism or a free market. In a capitalist system, if I start a business that fails, I lose. Nobody else does. If I can’t find the person who I find attractive who also finds me attractive and wants to have sex with me, I would lose, if there was only one person on earth that fit that category. That’s kind of how individualism works. If you want everyone to collectively suffer for any individual’s mistake, you’re talking (I think) about collectivism, not capitalism.
Wondering, why don’t you go ahead and tell us what would make you happy?
What is your perfect world?
(Is it a world where people can date people they’re attracted to, and don’t have to date people they aren’t attracted to? Because in that case, I have wonderful news.)
Seriously. It seems like the only thing you’ve really asked for is “I shouldn’t have to feel bad for women who don’t get dates,” and, okay. Go ahead and don’t feel bad for them! You have my permission.
Anything else you actually want?
I’ve lived alone with a screaming chronic pain condition, so…more desperate than that.
Also, I’m still not understanding how my meat market value is going to *poof* into nonexistence when I hit age 40, especially as my 80-year-old grandmother just started dating again after a 20-year hiatus. It’s almost as if human relationships do not work the way Wondersnooze says they do!
Fifth tier choice?WTF?
Like did all the men on the planet line up and women picked out which men in which order they’d date, and those are the only men they will date and it has to be in that order? Is that why MRAs bitch about signing up for Selective Service. I thought it was the draft, but clearly men are being ranked at the age of eighteen and alloted out to women.
Hmm. Yeah, I’ll take Benedict Cumberbatch, but only if Da’an of the Synod doesn’t work out.
Or
I’ll swap you Tony Stark for Magneto for the second round.