Over on Patriactionary, a proudly reactionary and patriarchal Christian blog, the blogger who calls himself electricangel is angry at himself – for not being an even bigger douchebag than he already is.
You see, he’s just heard from his wife that one of her friends isn’t happy about hitting the big 4-0. Apparently, his wife’s friend
broke down in tears, sobbing uncontrollably. What had hit her was the realization that she was 40, with no husband, no children, no prospects of either, and she was staring at a future of loneliness.
His reaction to this news?
I wish I could tell you that an evil smile of vengeance crept across my face, and the children this woman discarded were getting their revenge upon her. That this was payback for riding the cock carousel for years, always aiming at the guys she wanted, not the guys she could get.
But alas, hidden deep inside in his tiny misogynistic heart there remains a tiny fragment of sympathy.
But I cannot tell you anything other than how saddened I was at her tale, and how this sadness will rip out the hearts of so many women who did not set out to become lonely, childless spinsters, but whose families and societies removed the strictures on their behavior so that their own lack of self-control was left unbounded. This will be the ongoing social disaster of coming years.
I did say it was a tiny fragment.
But he still wants to use this woman’s story for his own ends.
In discussing this woman, I am insistent upon her becoming an object lesson to my wife, and especially for my wife to tell the beautiful, smart, virgin young women close to her about what happens to carousel riders. Life is a coin you may spend any way you like, but you may only spend it once. This woman spent it on an amusement park ride. Now the park is closing, she has been thrown off the ride, and faces 45 years of solitude.
Yeah, because no woman over the age of 40 is capable of ever finding a date or a mate.
Yeah, because her sadness at hitting 40 is going to last for the rest of her life.
Oh, and the bit about “the children this woman discarded?” She didn’t “discard” any children. She simply didn’t have any. She’s not “discarding children” any more than those with penises instead of vaginas are “discarding children” each and every time they masturbate to orgasm.
In the comments, not everyone is quite so restrained as electricangel.
“I don’t even know this woman and I’m pissing myself laughing at her,” writes one commenter going by the name Friendzone. “Fuck her.”
Take The Red Pill is equally unsympathetic:
I have NO sympathy for this woman whatsoever. Just like most Modern Women, she bought into the feminist deception with eyes wide open with never a thought about the future. Well the future has arrived and it looks a lot like a cold, lonely one for her – just like the cold, lonely youth and young adulthood that MOST men have had and continue to have.
Karma has come due, and the bicycles have realized that they don’t need fish, either.
When women like her are young, they treat decent men abominably – being as cruel and sadistic as they can be when rejecting an ‘unwanted’ man’s advances – simultaneously, they enjoy being ‘free whores’ for every player, dirtbag, and Alpha thug who crosses their path; then when they reach their thirties and are little more than ugly, repellent, diseased trollops (often with some thug’s illegitimate spawn or two in tow), they complain about ‘the lack of good men’.
Others adopt Electricangel’s more, er, mature approach. Will S. decides to be a pompous dick about it, while patting himself on the back for his enlightened attitude:
Indeed, it is proper to not gloat, but rather mourn what we have lost, as a society, and feel sorry for those who have made poor decisions – and try to help others not make such poor decisions, by pointing to unfortunate examples, that at least others might learn something from them.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is tempting, but we Christians do generally know better than that.
Because patronizingly exploiting someone’s (probably temporary) sadness to make other people feel shitty about their own lives is such a moral thing to do. Is faux sympathy better than no sympathy at all?
Our friend Sunshinemary jumps on the “let this be a lesson to the rest of you sluts” bandwagon:
We need not mock such women, but we need to hold up their tales as cautionary examples to other young women. The older women themselves cannot face that their lives should serve as an example of what not to do, and they will rationalize it forever.
Electricangel expounds on his plan to use this woman’s apparent misfortune for his own ends:
I am using her as a vector to drop comments to my wife about the dangers of the carousel. Next is the overt suggestion that she talk to some young women about this friend specifically.
Uh, I guess you don’t let your wife read this blog, huh? Because if I discovered that someone close to me was talking about me in such a creepily manipulative and patronizing way, that person would no longer be a part of my life.
Electricangel replies to Sunshinemary:
Yes, those who did not prioritize children will have their genetic tendencies to that behavior removed from the gene pool. Women do not have the sexual options that men do, and not letting them know this early and often is crushing.
But they must be pointed to, and shown as examples. I understand people who will laugh at and mock them; I thought I would. It’s just the enormity of a waste of a life, and the lives she threw away, and the realization that this is just the tip of huge iceberg that has gripped me.
Yes, EA, you’re such a deeply moral person. Posting an “I told you so, you whores!” post on your blog is no doubt exactly the way The Lord would like you to handle this.
In a later comment, he reiterates his plan to use this woman’s story to increase the insecurities of his wife:
I do not feel guilty at all about using this woman’s example to drop pellets of manosphere logic on my wife. It has the side benefit of my wife starting to ask me (because she’s asking herself) “What do I do to bring value to the relatinship?” It is a good thing.
First it was a sad thing, now it’s a “good thing.”
How exactly is this better than gloating? No, scratch that. How is this different than gloating?
I searched the entire thread for “Nice Guy” and did not see you show the original reference.
Now for the n:th time I give reference.
heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml
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I love mras who burst in here and demand we denounce for stuff random women have said to them.
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And I am still not an MRA, have never been one.
“How about Johnny Depp? He’s always dating strings of supermodels. Get mad at him.”
I am not mad, I used persons to examplifiy that yes there are people who a lot of people find atractive.
“How thick is your skull? How dense?”
So now it moves from the manipulation to the complaining.
“Are those shared activities and aspects of generosity being “bought and sold”?”
Yes.
” but then these whiny jackholes complain endlessly about people like Roissy not being representative of the movement and it’s so!!! unfair!!11! for David to point to them.”
Sort of like how triplanetary on this very site was allowed to accuse all engineers ever of being sexist randroids?
“Other than that, this troll’s logic is hurting my brain. When you refuse to accept that your definition is wrong and then insist on using definitions to try and shut down other people, you’ve lost the plot.”
Right back at you.
“Unless Ryan Gosling likes BBWs. I doubt Marcotte would tell anyone to drastically change their lifestyle and body type for the slim chance of establishing a relationship with a celebrity, however.”
But that is exactely what Amanda said in page 2 in her article on GMP.
“Everybody is well within their right to “say” they don’t want to have sex/a relationship with people who have any body type. WHY IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION?”
BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONALY SEEN FEMINISTS SCREAMING THEIR HEAD OFF ABOUT HOW ONLY SMALL-DICKED LOSER MEN WANT SLIM WOMEN FROM ASIA.
Dear god, just reject all your standards and sleep with me even though I am objectively repulsive in every conceivable way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, wait, I accidentally channeled the dude who wrote this. How about instead ‘feelings of loneliness is totally normal. You’ll be fine tomorrow”
“Ozy – I don’t think Wondering understands the difference between “I, Sue Smith, prefer thin men” and “All women demand all men lose weight.”
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So things like this http://feministing.com/2010/02/12/cry-me-a-river-john-mayer/ Are what?
Looks pretty much to me like feminists being enraged with a man talking about his preference in women.
Is this the original reference? Because—I hope you’re all sitting down—it turns out Wondering lied about this one too, as it mentions manipulation nowhere:
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml
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Dear god, just reject all your standards and sleep with me even though I am objectively repulsive in every conceivable way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, wait, I accidentally channeled the dude who wrote this. How about instead ‘feelings of loneliness is totally normal. You’ll be fine tomorrow”
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For the final time, I don’t care about your vagina. However, and this is what is important. Don’t come running to me when you are 40 and out of value and expect me to suddenly be willing to accept the humiliation. You chose to spend your 20s and 30s with the people who made my life a living hell. Now stay with them, leave me the f-ck alone and don’t complain that now you know how it is to be told again and again and again that you have you sexual value to anyone.
“Is this the original reference? Because—I hope you’re all sitting down—it turns out Wondering lied about this one too, as it mentions manipulation nowhere:”
Are you totaly blind?
“…Whether it is targeting women who are troubled to begin with, setting themselves up to be taken advantage of, or acting in a manipulative, patronizing or obsequious fashion,”
Do you notice ” or acting in a MANIPULATIVE, patronizing or obsequious”
That makes a third reference you’ve lied about. He’s being a sexist, racist douchebag in that interview. That is not the neutral expression of personal preferences.
“That makes a third reference you’ve lied about. He’s being a sexist, racist douchebag in that interview. That is not the neutral expression of personal preferences.”
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.
Where does John Mayer express a single sentence that includes this?
Dude, nobody is going to come running to you when they’re 40 and desperate. Trust me.
No, no, no, that is what is technically referred to as “being a douchebag.” You notice the bit where he says that his penis is white supremacist? And the bit where he says that Kerry Washington is “white-girl crazy”? Yeah. That is what we are objecting to.
Now, if he said “most black women aren’t my type,” I doubt much of anyone would be upset.
“Dude, nobody is going to come running to you when they’re 40 and desperate. Trust me.”
Great, do you promise this?
Wait, wait, wait, I’m sleeping with the people who made your life a living hell? o.o Whom do you think I’m fucking?
Dude, I just searched the link I posted and every single page in this thread for that quotation. Nowhere does any of that appear.
Are YOU totally blind?
“No, no, no, that is what is technically referred to as “being a douchebag.” ”
“You notice the bit where he says that his penis is white supremacist?”
Yes? So what? He is honest with his preferences.
” And the bit where he says that Kerry Washington is “white-girl crazy”? Yeah. That is what we are objecting to.”
No it is not, as is being said.
“Right, because the only black women that are gorgeous are the ones that white men want to bone. Kenyon writes,”
Child, there is zero danger of anyone running to you with anything. You are not that important, and I am quite sure that any women of your acquaintance know better than to come to you with anything personal. All they’ll get is is “that’s great, but what about MY pain, bitch?”
Oh, God. Sex=markets and now a dictionary troll.
Wondering is MRAL? I knew this shit was familiar.
Wondering is MR*L? That explains so much.
That post on Feministing wasn’t decrying John Mayer for daring to talk about his preferences in women. It’s not like John Mayer said that he personally preferred women with straight hair or women with blue eyes or women with narrow hips, etc. If that’s what he had said, no one would have cared.
That post at Feministing was decrying the fact that John Mayer said things that were racist and sexist.
Learn to read.
Learning to read is misandry!
Totally blind, clueless, and so thick a neutrino couldn’t make it through him.
Go away, Wondering, you’re giving me a headache, seriously though I can’t parse your logic.
Dude, I just searched the link I posted and every single page in this thread for that quotation. Nowhere does any of that appear.
http://imageshack.us/f/52/tmpaug.png/
“That post at Feministing was decrying the fact that John Mayer said things that were racist and sexist. ”
He said that he was not atracted to black women. That is just as much a preference as everything else.
Wondering: So things like this http://feministing.com/2010/02/12/cry-me-a-river-john-mayer/ Are what?
Looks pretty much to me like feminists being enraged with a man talking about his preference in women
Then you don’t know how to look.
And ultimately I am forced to ask, will he be hated forever like Kanye was after his mess up at the American Music Awards? Will the victims of his little racist sexualized tirade be upheld, the way Taylor Swift has been as the “pure and innocent” victim of big bad mean Kanye? No, probably not, because it is still considered edgy, deserving and just to say racist and sexist things about black women with no accountability, mechanism for remorse or narrative to say otherwise.
And let’s be clear, his depiction of how he perceives white women also feeds into hateful ideas of women’s sexuality and fear of the vagina. It is all just very sad and very telling.
It’s not about his preferences, but about his objectification.
And again, you don’t know how to look.
. However, and this is what is important. Don’t come running to me when you are 40 and out of value and expect me to suddenly be willing to accept the humiliation. You chose to spend your 20s and 30s with the people who made my life a living hell. Now stay with them, leave me the f-ck alone and don’t complain that now you know how it is to be told again and again and again that you have you sexual value to anyone.
Who has asked you to do that? Who has done that?
No one. Not even in the OP, where a dude tells us that he is certain that’s what made this woman he is talking about cry.
He said it. Not her. You said it,. not us.
Dude… no wonder you are wondering, you don’t read.