Yesterday, we took a look at Ferdinand Bardamu’s manosphere manifesto “The Necessity of Domestic Violence,” a thoroughly despicable piece of writing that concludes:
Women should be terrorized by their men; it’s the only thing that makes them behave better than chimps.
I decided to take a look at Bardamu’s post yesterday after running across a discussion of it in Reddit’s new FeMRA subreddit, a forum ostensibly devoted to what “women can do to advance men’s rights as women.” It’s a strange little subreddit, started by a man and dominated by some of Reddit’s most unsavory MaleMRAs, some of them banned in the regular Men’s Rights subreddit.
Recently one of the most unsavory of the bunch, calling himself JeremiahGuy this time, posted a link to Bardamu’s domestic violence manifesto, which he hosts on his website. Jeremiah naturally used the discussion as an excuse to post more apologias for domestic “discipline” along the lines of the quote from him I featured yesterday.
But I was a little surprised to see GirlWritesWhat, the blabby FeMRA video blogger who’s captured the hearts of Reddit’s Men’s Rights crowd, step into the conversation with something of a defense of Bardamu’s noxious views. After reading Bardamu’s manifesto – the one advocating that men “terrorize” their women to make them behave – GWW blithely concluded:
I don’t really find too much in the article that strikes me as seriously ethically questionable.
Have I taken that remark out of context? Yes. In context, it’s worse. Here’s the entire quote from her, and a further clarification of her position.
She wasn’t the only one in the discussion to get upvotes for suggesting that men slapping women around from time to time isn’t really such a big deal. MaunaLoona (a MaleMRA) wrote:
Lots of MRAs like to pretend that they care about male victims of domestic violence. But the Men’s Rights movement hasn’t done shit for them. And here, I think, is why: too many MRAs are less interested in helping male victims of domestic violence than they are in providing excuses and justifications for male abusers.
I never thought about it like that.
Are you trying to write to make me laugh, Steele? It’s working.
ALL YOUR CHERRIES ARE BELONG TO US!!!!
Is Harley Quinn a jester’s fool?
@snowy
I am not a large jester vile fool! I am the jester’s fool! Leave it to a vile misandrist to mix up my name….
Ok fine then, gosh!
Doctor, Lawyer, male model, shareholder, now you’re a hacker?
WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR SHINING MALE ARYAN INTELLECT ON MANBOOBZ.COM, CURE CANCER OR SOMETHING!
I’m laughing IRL. By the way I’m on a yacht full of fortune 500 programmer doctor playboy bunny accountants. It’s true because I’m a person on the internet.
Bullshit. I am not aware of any feminist saying that it’s okay to hit men or people one isn’t in a relationship with. Hitting one’s significant other, or one’s child is particularly despicable because the abuser relies on the relationship itself for getting away with it — and obviously, takes advantage of home privacy to carry out the abuse.
It also goes without saying that using physical coercion against someone physically smaller and weaker — even in the “smallest” possible way — is a “mortal sin”, as you put it. It’s a mortal sin because the goal of these supposedly innocuous “small” displays of physical superiority is to inspire fear and trepidation. The message is “Sure it’s just a black eye this time, but if you annoy me again, I’ll break your fucking neck. Or, alternatively, I will inflict ‘small’ amounts of pain on you every day until the slightest noise behind your back makes you flinch.” That’s what abusers go for. So he may not break her neck, but he breaks her spirit. And when the abuser is your spouse or your parent, your fear is worse, because your ability to get away is a lot less than if you received a beating from a random stranger.
Oh wait, is Pell the Shining Aryan Intellect Horse guy? I thought that was someone else.
Guys I am an alien fortune teller from the planet blamket. My predictions says xardoz is telling the truth. Believe….
@Falconer
I thought that was antz but I might be wrong.
@Falconer
Naw, that was FactFinder
Steele, I happen to think anyone hitting anyone is wrong. It doesn’t actually solve anything and only inflicts pain. There is nothing good or ok about violence of any kind. This is kindergarten level shit here. Not difficult.
And I know Lawgirl’s been banned, but seriously, good fucking riddance. Fuck off with your abuser logic and go bother someone else. And good job on calling everyone a freak with a freaky background. Cause it’s totally people’s faults if their parents or the people who were supposed to take care of them and love them instead beat them and wore them down.
It was someone else, I think it was originally used as an insult against David or the regulars for using fancy edumacated words.
It’s pretty obvious Pell WANTS to be that guy, however. Like many MRAs, he’s using the accomplishments of other men to feed his own shriveled ego. Kind of sad.
So I’m still the founder, president, and sole acting member of the Illuminati and the New World Order. And I can also attest to xardoz and falconer telling the truth. I found out using my NSA truth-monitoring network.
@cloudiah
Thanks for posting the link to Pell’s earlier comments. The stuff about “mature orgasms” is HILARIOUS.
YAY I am a truth teller!
Perhaps I ought to say … a fact finder ?! DUNH DUNH DUNH!!!
I’m just scrolling down her front page, reading and finding all sorts of
ridiculous shitgems to post here.Here, she’s approvingly quoting someone else in the transcript of a video about how feminism will cause economic collapse:
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
Those poor guys who don’t pay child support when they can afford to do so! Not to mention she talks about child support like it’s a luxury for women.
By whom, on what evidence, etc..
Excess labor on the part of men is good…
…but bad when it’s because of divorce cuz corporationz.
@cloudiah
Thanks for the link as well, Eris be praised I have to take time to read this all.
My gods, pell has ego problems, the most I invent about myself on the internet sincerely is the fact that I’m slightly less shy than I am in real life, but holy crap this guy needs help.
Just to be clear, the quote is implying that women were the owners of their husbands as beasts of burden. That’s why there is that prescription in the Old Testament that when a woman forces a man to plow a field, she must marry him.
Wait, they’re claiming that women do 80% of the spending in the West, based upon what? A study saying that in a het married household, the woman does 80% of the shopping?
I guess I underestimated the capacity of MRAs and associated persons to produce BRAINFAX.
@Tulgey Logger Re GWW
Why the fuck is she harping on about how much damage divorce causes, when she is a divorced single mother herself! I can’t believe her hypocrisy.
Steele said:
Jesus, how fucked-up and violent does your worldview have to be for you to complain that people are taking too strong a stance against domestic violence? You fucking abuse apologist.
Steele can’t possibly be for real, though I suspect that whatever returning troll (or totally not a returning troll) is playing the role of Steele believes at least half of what they’re posting.
David, do you mean to say we’ve been made the jester’s fool’s fool’s fool?